Leafs 2024-2025 Season Thread

[superstar_88]

Bennett should be considered the replacement to Tavares as the 2nd line center but Leafs will likely sign Tavares since he's a sure thing. He wants to stay. Many other teams will be bidding for Bennett.

 

[roddermac]

If the Leafs do resign Tavares, I hope it's too a one yr contract, not one of these 7yr contracts like last time. After all, Tavares is already 34 yrs old!!

John Tavares - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He'll get a 3yr deal for sure.

 

[shack]

The measure of any of the core players is in the playoffs.
We already know what they're capable of in the regular season.

And the last page of posts has been comparing Matthews' regular season this year to previous regular seasons.

Those are separate discussions.

 

[roddermac]

I hope not!!

He can easily get $5 million per on a multi year contract on the open market.

 

[shack]

Who cares!! The regular season means nothing!!

Comparing apples to apples is relevant.

By your logic, Ovie passing Gretzky means nothing. It's all regular season.

Once again, thank you for your deep insights.

 

[superstar_88]

My deep insights say that the playoffs are the only thing that matters. IMHO, if you don't win the Stanley cup then the teams season is a failure!!

When Leafs won the Division and lost to Montreal in round 1 that was considered a huge failure.
When Florida barely made the playoffs as 16th seed, beat the juggernaught Bruins in round 1 and made it to the Finals that was considered a huge success.
So you sir are correct. No one gloats about the President's Trophy.

 

[shack]

My deep insights say that the playoffs are the only thing that matters.

So you agree that Ovie passing Gretz means nothing.

 

[superstar_88]

Regular season is a means to make the playoffs. Once in it means nothing.
The Leafs under Matthews era has made the playoffs every single season.
No other team has made the playoffs as often as the Leafs have during this period.
If regular season holds so much significance shouldn't the Leafs be getting more accolades rather than all this bashing.

 

[tml]

He can easily get $5 million per on a multi year contract on the open market.

Agreed.

 

[shack]

Yes, means totally nothing!! Who cares??

Your consistency is commendable.

So, at this point, I expect that you will make no posts regarding anything that goes on in the regular season.

You can stop updating us on the Leafs record after every fucking game. "Who cares? The regular season means nothing."-mitchell76

If the regular season means nothing are you going to stop posting what goes on in the rest of the regular season?

 

[tml]

I'll keep posting after every Leafs game, because who knows if the Leafs will even make the playoffs or not?? Also, it will be interesting to see who the Leafs play in the 1st round, if they do make the playoffs??

As I said before, "the regular season is just a means to an end." The end is if a team qualifies for the playoffs or not?? As well, as what seed they finish in, and as a result who the example Leafs play in the 1st round etc

I'm glad you enjoy my Leaf updates....LMAO

Don't forget, in the past the regular season was also important for player bonuses. Score 50 goals, get an extra $500,000. I don't think think teams can offer bonuses anymore.

 

[maurice93]

Don't forget, in the past the regular season was also important for player bonuses. Score 50 goals, get an extra $500,000. I don't think think teams can offer bonuses anymore.

There are still some bonuses that can be offered, but they are limited in scope (who, what and size).

Based on my quick research following can be offered bonuses in contracts - it was quick research though
1) Players over 35 (games played only I believe)
2) Plays with over 400 career games coming off a long term injury (games played only I believe)
3) Entry level contracts, which have very specific targets on production as defined by the league and not the team (Goals, Points, Awards)

For players #1 and #2, If the bonuses earned during the year exceed a team's cap space available, they count against the cap room the next season. And teams don't like that.

For #3, ELC's which have league defined targets, bonuses earned do not count against the cap.

For a rookie or second year player on an ELC (some 3rd years may also be on an ELC) getting from 19 to 20 goals, will get you an extra $250,000.
Entry Level Performance Bonuses | Puckpedia

 

[smuddan]

I'll keep posting after every Leafs game, because who knows if the Leafs will even make the playoffs or not?? Also, it will be interesting to see who the Leafs play in the 1st round, if they do make the playoffs??

Arn‘t you contradicting yourself? You wrote “regular season means nothing” but then you said this ^^^. If the Leafs are not sure to make the playoffs and you find it interesting to see who they play in the first round, doesn’t that make the regular season means something?

For teams like Ottawa and Montreal, regular season means huge success if they can make the playoffs, and for players it means the world for those who are in their contract year like Marner and Tavares and those like Ovie who has a chance to set records.

 

[The Oracle]

For teams like Ottawa and Montreal, regular season means huge success if they can make the playoffs, and for players it means the world for those who are in their contract year like Marner and Tavares and those like Ovie who has a chance to set records.

Sens and Leafs in the battle for Ontario tonight....Go Sens!

 

[shack]

I'll keep posting after every Leafs game, because who knows if the Leafs will even make the playoffs or not?? Also, it will be interesting to see who the Leafs play in the 1st round, if they do make the playoffs??

As I said before, "the regular season is just a means to an end." The end is if a team qualifies for the playoffs or not?? As well, as what seed they finish in, and as a result who for example, the Leafs play in the 1st round etc

I'm glad you enjoy my Leaf updates....LMAO

And it's also interesting to see how a player progresses over the course of his career and the best measure of that is comparing their stats during the regular season. They are consistently scheduled to play 82 games and against all of the other players in the league year after year after year. Comparisons between players and comparisons of a single player over different years is mainly done from the regular season stats.

Playoff success is more team oriented. How do you evaluate a player who gets knocked out in 4 games or doesn't make the playoffs at all. Each year there must be a bunch of superstars that never make the playoffs. If Pittsburgh misses the playoffs the Crosby is shit because only the playoffs count.

BTW, I don't look at those updates.

 

[shack]

Arn‘t you contradicting yourself? You wrote “regular season means nothing” but then you said this ^^^. If the Leafs are not sure to make the playoffs and you find it interesting to see who they play in the first round, doesn’t that make the regular season means something?

For teams like Ottawa and Montreal, regular season means huge success if they can make the playoffs, and for players it means the world for those who are in their contract year like Marner and Tavares and those like Ovie who has a chance to set records.

Once again, he has no concept of what he's saying. It usually makes no sense, and as you said, self-contradiction is the norm for him. Lots of bravado, little substance.

 

[The Oracle]

Sens Win...Sens Win!!

Couldn't hit that empty net at all though the last few minutes.

Linus Ullmark has arrived...

Still wish the Leafs and their great fans success though..Just not against Ottawa, lol.

To the Leaf fans...Will Tavares be a Leaf next year?..He's consistently very good.

 

[smuddan]

Sens Win...Sens Win!!

Couldn't hit that empty net at all though the last few minutes.

Linus Ullmark has arrived...

Still wish the Leafs and their great fans success though..Just against Ottawa, lol.

To the Leaf fans...Will Tavares be a Leaf next year?..He's consistently very good.

Congras ! Two teams going different directions. Sens will be my adopted team if they last longer than the Leafs in the playoffs. Luckily for the Leafs there’s still time to correct whatever the coaches see fit.

I believe this is the last kick of the can for Shanahan. Regardless who’s the opponent, if they go out in the first round, he’ll be gone and who knows what his successor will do with this roaster. Maybe they’ll keep Tavares for 5m and go after Bennett with money saved from letting Marner go.

Never fair to blame one player for the team failure, but a lot of fingers will be pointing at Marner’s direction just like last season. Rielly needs to step up big time. He’s being paid first pairing d man money but plays like the 6th or 7th.

 

[maurice93]

I hope Taveras won't be a Leaf next year. Taveras is getting too old!! The Sens have now won 6 in a row, and are only 4 pts behind the Leafs. Both teams have now played 66 games. Only 16 games to go, for both teams!!

I hope the Sens overtake the Leafs. Matthews looks totally awful!!

Tavares will be on a very different contract next year. If the Leafs get him between $4-$6m (a home town type deal) he more than fine at the level.
His $11M contract is problematic this year, but at a reasonable deal next year his production is fine (56 points in 58 games)

 

[maurice93]

Leafs aren't missing the playoff (as per a few points a page back)

They have a 10 point lead on the #9 team in the conference (Montreal), and a 9 point lead on the #8 team (Rangers). Both teams aren't catching the Leafs. Ottawa may catch them as they are only 4 points behind.