Kyrsten Sinema

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I meant Goya the righties with the bean company. Reasonably expected to be in the middle of any fart conspiracy...
Ok now I got it, Goya foods and their less insane than Mike Lindell CEO. In my world Francisco Goya is the only one that matters. Had Napoleon not invaded Spain, he may have remained a court painter of portraits.

Saturn eats his children.

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Butler1000

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You're right, of course. My bad. And I agree. Senators have an unique role and it's nice to see a Senator to rise above the herd and mere partisanship. When McCain was doing the same thing(also from Arizona) he was the toast of the town, even celebrated as "maverick ". Seems like the shoe's on the other foot, now.
Lol. John McCain voted against his party because thats what his constituents wanted. Sinema is voting against her party for cash. Thats why she isn't respected. Why the hell would you complement corruption?
 
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Butler1000

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Senators don't have districts. She represents the interests of her state and the U.S. in general. She's one of the few reasonable Democrats in Congress.
Following her into a bathroom to harass her is nothing more than bully behavior. That's what the radical left does.
Except she isn't. No town halls, no office hours, refuses to state stances, lied outright during the primary and the campaign. And openly taking cash for votes. She is representing her own wallet. If you look at the video......

ITS HER OWN CAMPAIGN WORKERS ASKING HER!

And her fellow Senator in the same state is voting for it. With a high approval rating to do it.
 

mandrill

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Senators don't have districts. She represents the interests of her state and the U.S. in general. She's one of the few reasonable Democrats in Congress.
Following her into a bathroom to harass her is nothing more than bully behavior. That's what the radical left does.
Kirk, you realize that I have posted dozens of instances where extreme righties and right wing culties have threatened to kill, harassed and assaulted liberals, huh?

The latest was in Oracle's Australia thread where anti vaxxers rioted in NYC and assaulted doctors and smashed a mobile COVID testing station. Leaving aside the whole January 6 event.

I don't support stalking Sinema either, if only because it's useless. But on the scale of what righties do, it barely registers a tiny ripple.
 

silentkisser

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You can argue by more or less the same reasoning over a CDN $350 billion
spending plan here in Canada for building our infrastructure which I think
is badly needed too. The reality is after expenses on other items our government simply won't have that much money left. The U.S. can at
least print their currencies which we can't but for them to cut nation's
military budget is sacrilege.

Biden and his administration is going to be hit big time
by inflation even without the $3.5T spending bill passed.
You have to be rich to think inflation is good for the economy.
I now have to budget my monthly expense on food and may
have to worry about running a deficit by next year.
Canada could use an infusion of infrastructure spending. But, the reality is, we in Ontario are in a lot better shape than most states. While there are some roads that are a disaster, for the most part they are safe and well maintained. We don't have overpasses collapsing on people a la Quebec, or contaminated water pipes like a number of places in the US. Part of that is because our tax dollars actually work for us. Now, the GTA could use a bunch of billions to get better transit...

As for inflation, I would think most people understand that it is essential for growth. Without it, the economy would be stagnate of shrink. One of the Bank of Canada's main jobs is to maintain inflation as 2% annually. Now, I agree, food inflation is outpacing that 2%, and that is obviously not good. But, a lot of that has nothing to do with government spending. Its more an issue of climate change. California, a major agricultural exporter, is suffering from a severe drought. That is pushing up prices, as are other supply chain issues that the pandemic has exposed.
 
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Kirk, you realize that I have posted dozens of instances where extreme righties and right wing culties have threatened to kill, harassed and assaulted liberals, huh?

The latest was in Oracle's Australia thread where anti vaxxers rioted in NYC and assaulted doctors and smashed a mobile COVID testing station. Leaving aside the whole January 6 event.

I don't support stalking Sinema either, if only because it's useless. But on the scale of what righties do, it barely registers a tiny ripple.
Its 'funny' when Hillier or someone else threatens liberals but its fascism to have to wear a mask.
Jan 6 was all about freedom but BLM were riots.

 

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Canada could use an infusion of infrastructure spending. But, the reality is, we in Ontario are in a lot better shape than most states. While there are some roads that are a disaster, for the most part they are safe and well maintained. We don't have overpasses collapsing on people a la Quebec, or contaminated water pipes like a number of places in the US. Part of that is because our tax dollars actually work for us. Now, the GTA could use a bunch of billions to get better transit...

As for inflation, I would think most people understand that it is essential for growth. Without it, the economy would be stagnate of shrink. One of the Bank of Canada's main jobs is to maintain inflation as 2% annually. Now, I agree, food inflation is outpacing that 2%, and that is obviously not good. But, a lot of that has nothing to do with government spending. Its more an issue of climate change. California, a major agricultural exporter, is suffering from a severe drought. That is pushing up prices, as are other supply chain issues that the pandemic has exposed.
Oh, yeah? What's pushing the prices on the domestic food supply? Surely not the California drought. The inflation is being caused by excessive money supply, energy prices.and shortages and disruptions in both the manufacturing and supply chain- a perfect storm, if there ever was. It has nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with the pandemic restrictions and the financial reaction by the governments.
 

silentkisser

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Oh, yeah? What's pushing the prices on the domestic food supply? Surely not the California drought. The inflation is being caused by excessive money supply, energy prices.and shortages and disruptions in both the manufacturing and supply chain- a perfect storm, if there ever was. It has nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with the pandemic restrictions and the financial reaction by the governments.
You are right to a degree. That all plays a part. But, again, this all sort of misses the point. The US, and to a smaller degree Canada, need to rebuild or invest in new infrastructure. There are so many crumbling roads or unsafe bridges in the US that could collapse like that Minnesota one a few years ago (or that one in Genoa Italy a while ago). Hell, the Gardiner could collapse at some point if it doesn't get maintenance. And keep in mind, having full employment is inflationary. This infrastructure plan would create jobs. In Arizona, in West Virginia and all across the US.
 
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jcpro

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You are right to a degree. That all plays a part. But, again, this all sort of misses the point. The US, and to a smaller degree Canada, need to rebuild or invest in new infrastructure. There are so many crumbling roads or unsafe bridges in the US that could collapse like that Minnesota one a few years ago (or that one in Genoa Italy a while ago). Hell, the Gardiner could collapse at some point if it doesn't get maintenance. And keep in mind, having full employment is inflationary. This infrastructure plan would create jobs. In Arizona, in West Virginia and all across the US.
Except that it is unclear how much will be slated for the actual infrastructure nor how the states will employ the funds even if they get it. Our Gardiner has been under careful rejuvenation for the past several years and it's in pretty good condition- there's no threat of collapse. Go under and see for yourself- most of it is pedestrian accessible. As for inflation, the price of the natural gas is up 25% in Europe. That alone(because they rely on NG on the massive scale, especially the UK) will drive their costs through the roof this winter. BTW, don't count on the job creation from the infrastructure projects. It's not how it works in the 21st century, this is not the time of Herbert Hoover. The capital projects are executed lean, quick and with skeletal crews due to automation, prefab engineering and prolific use of mechanized equipment.
 

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Kirk, you realize that I have posted dozens of instances where extreme righties and right wing culties have threatened to kill, harassed and assaulted liberals, huh?

The latest was in Oracle's Australia thread where anti vaxxers rioted in NYC and assaulted doctors and smashed a mobile COVID testing station. Leaving aside the whole January 6 event.

I don't support stalking Sinema either, if only because it's useless. But on the scale of what righties do, it barely registers a tiny ripple.
I'm not saying for a second that there aren't extremist right wing violent idiots out there. But they are extremely fringe. The violent left are a much broader based tent of people comprising black nationalists/BLM, Antifa and other anarchist groups. We are talking at least 25 for every 1.
The fact that you say you don't support the stalking of Sinema primarily because its futile speaks volumes btw.
 

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I'm not saying for a second that there aren't extremist right wing violent idiots out there. But they are extremely fringe. The violent left are a much broader based tent of people comprising black nationalists/BLM, Antifa and other anarchist groups. We are talking at least 25 for every 1.
The fact that you say you don't support the stalking of Sinema primarily because its futile speaks volumes btw.
25 to 1??!!??!!??....

You got hard stats for that, Kirk? And a reputable source?

Because - last I checked - "lefties" didn't shit in the halls of the Capitol on Jan 6, nor did they steal shit from Pelosi's office, nor were they the ones beating the crap out of bystanders, journalists and cops in Melbourne last month.
 
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Kirk, you realize that I have posted dozens of instances where extreme righties and right wing culties have threatened to kill, harassed and assaulted liberals, huh?

The latest was in Oracle's Australia thread where anti vaxxers rioted in NYC and assaulted doctors and smashed a mobile COVID testing station. Leaving aside the whole January 6 event.

I don't support stalking Sinema either, if only because it's useless. But on the scale of what righties do, it barely registers a tiny ripple.
Not even so much as a richly deserved pie in the face...
 

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I can't help but wonder how many hobbyists have to budget their monthly food expense
My hobbying budget is sacred and not to be compromised.
The little money saved from cut on food expense would go to
tipping for my regular semi-legitimate MPA to ensure the happy
ending treatment is done correctly at the end of a fully-clothed
Thai stretching session. Money spared from food expenses and
other items essential and non-essential will go into
my savings on top of contribution to my registered accounts. If you
are entitled to a retirement pension like our teachers and politicians
and your prospect to the future isn't one as gloomy as mine rising
food cost should not cut into your hobbying expense. As far as
I can see the inflation we are experiencing is not transitory and
cost of living will continue to grow more rapidly than the economy.
Even an extra $100 to $200 of monthly saving would ameliorate erosion
of my retirement saving. Looking to 10 to 20 years in the future
poverty among retirees will turn out to be a major social problem
and I hope I am wrong.
 
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mandrill

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I'm not saying for a second that there aren't extremist right wing violent idiots out there. But they are extremely fringe. The violent left are a much broader based tent of people comprising black nationalists/BLM, Antifa and other anarchist groups. We are talking at least 25 for every 1.
The fact that you say you don't support the stalking of Sinema primarily because its futile speaks volumes btw.
 

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She really is unlikeable. She's every smart, but overly entitled woman who made partner / got the Bench appointment / got the C-suite job and spend the rest of her life making everybody around her squirm, grovel and cringe.
 

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I'm not saying for a second that there aren't extremist right wing violent idiots out there. But they are extremely fringe. The violent left are a much broader based tent of people comprising black nationalists/BLM, Antifa and other anarchist groups. We are talking at least 25 for every 1.
nah your guys are a little special
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I'm not saying for a second that there aren't extremist right wing violent idiots out there. But they are extremely fringe. The violent left are a much broader based tent of people comprising black nationalists/BLM, Antifa and other anarchist groups. We are talking at least 25 for every 1.
The fact that you say you don't support the stalking of Sinema primarily because its futile speaks volumes btw.

OK, Kirk. That's a super violent right wing vigilante. He just came up in my Twitter feed at random; but these assholes do almost every day.

You owe me TWENTY-FIVE violent lefties and I want to see them in this thread by tomorrow.
 
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OK, Kirk. That's a super violent right wing vigilante. He just came up in Twitter feed at random; but these assholes do almost every day.

You owe me TWENTY-FIVE violent lefties and I want to see them in this thread by tomorrow.
First let's define lefties. Some anarchist who wants neither trump nor biden may technically be a lefty but democrats bear ZERO responsibility for him and his ilk.
Conversely, republicans have 100% responsibility for their degenerates as they brainwash them and guide them.
 

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25 to 1??!!??!!??....

You got hard stats for that, Kirk? And a reputable source?

Because - last I checked - "lefties" didn't shit in the halls of the Capitol on Jan 6, nor did they steal shit from Pelosi's office, nor were they the ones beating the crap out of bystanders, journalists and cops in Melbourne last month.
It's simple.
Every person who marched in support of racial justice counts as violent in his eyes.
Therefore there are more violent lefties.
See?
Simple.
 

Frankfooter

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My hobbying budget is sacred and not to be compromised.
The little money saved from cut on food expense would go to
tipping for my regular semi-legitimate MPA to ensure the happy
ending treatment is done correctly at the end of a fully-clothed
Thai stretching session. Money spared from food expenses and
other items essential and non-essential will go into
my savings on top of contribution to my registered accounts. If you
are entitled to a retirement pension like our teachers and politicians
and your prospect to the future isn't one as gloomy as mine rising
food cost should not cut into your hobbying expense. As far as
I can see the inflation we are experiencing is not transitory and
cost of living will continue to grow more rapidly than the economy.
Even an extra $100 to $200 of monthly saving would ameliorate erosion
of my retirement saving. Looking to 10 to 20 years in the future
poverty among retirees will turn out to be a major social problem
and I hope I am wrong.
I'm sorry to hear money is tight, but fully clothed happy endings?
Ew.

I know, everyone has their own kink, but spooging in your pants?
 
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