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Yes. The only thing I haven't seen is the movie.
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And are you still saying that the quoted statements aren't anti-semitic?


Watching that movie makes as much sense as watching a Flat Earth one. Actually the Flat Earth one might be better as it doesn't directly promote racism.
 

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Don't agree with Kyrie, but I'm also a bit uncomfortable seeing that much pressure exerted on an individual trying to force them to change their beliefs. He is a basketball player and gets played to play basketball. What he chooses to believe off the basketball court should be his business.

Has Lebron commented on this situation yet? He's normally quick to comment on social/ racial issues.
Couldn't agree more.

I'm going to watch the movie and see what the fuss is all about.

The ones with the built in bias out there are the individuals that worry me the most. They have their minds made up without even listening to opposing positions.

As for Kyrie the player. He's simply fantastic. A pleasure to watch play. I hope his career isn't affected by this severely.
 
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“The Jews have established five major falsehoods which work to conceal their nature and protect their status and power, to wit: 1) The Jews are ‘Israelites’, and thus God’s Chosen People; 2) Jesus Christ was a Jew; 3) That 6 million Jews were killed in a holocaust during WWII; 4) That all races are equal, or that all are brothers; and, 5) That Jews are just another religious group.” [Quotation from a 1978 antisemitic text published by Walter White Jr. titled “The Hidden Tyranny”]
Watching the Film now and this was taken from an interview from Harold Wallace Rosenthal.
 

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It is truly hilarious how consumed some of you are that Kyrie has an opinion of his own. Right or wrong he can say anything that he likes.

The funniest part is how politicians create laws to try and curb free speech and most of you are fine with that.
 
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It is truly hilarious how consumed some of you are that Kyrie has an opinion of his own. Right or wrong he can say anything that he likes.

The funniest part is how politicians create laws to try and curb free speech and most of you are fine with that.
There are limits to free speech. As well, the private corporation that pays him has a right to ensure that their employees are representative of that corporation.
 

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The funniest part is how politicians create laws to try and curb free speech and most of you are fine with that.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence, Tamara Lich was accused of having a selective memory at the Emergencies Act Hearings.

The Jews were the original victims of the slave trade, I had to verify the point made in the video. The Spaniards expelled their Jews after the Reconquista, those that converted were eventually burned alive by the Inquisition. Portugal sent their Jews to be worked to death on the plantation island of Sao Tome. Once they died out, black slaves were imported.

 

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Kyrie would be praised to high heavens for posting a link to a video of "Bandera is our father", a song about actual Ukrainian neo-nazi's. What an age we live in.
 

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Don't agree with Kyrie, but I'm also a bit uncomfortable seeing that much pressure exerted on an individual trying to force them to change their beliefs. He is a basketball player and gets played to play basketball. What he chooses to believe off the basketball court should be his business.

I understand your point around pressuring Kyrie to change his beliefs. I think the idea is that perhaps this could be approached as a learning opportunity or teachable moment for Kyrie vs having him instantly cancelled.

As far as just ignoring the comments goes, I just don’t think this is a viable option for the NBA in 2022. It would cost the league too much in sponsorships and advertising revenues.

When Donald Sterling was exposed for his racism the league forced him to sell the team right away…and Adam Silver was widely praised for his handling of the situation.
 

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Ok. So I’m going to have to pause it. I’m 30 min in and I don’t know how much I can take. This is what I got from this pseudo ass shit so far.




It begins saying our bondage is due to the curse of Israel. It says it was a 400 year bondage from 1619 to 2019. The slave trade began in 1444 and Africans were sent to America as early as 1526. So this is inaccurate. We weren’t enslaved because of a curse. It was for profit.



They then ask. Who are the real children of Israel. Then show aborigine Australians, Kenyans, Zulu’s, Mexicans, Brazilians, Haitians and African Americans. Judaism is not the main religion in many of these nations. Practicing the religion of the OT doesn’t make you those people.


The documentary says we have been tricked with Islam and Christianity. As if Judaism is inherently African or black. They take this stance because they believe in the idea of Gods chosen people.


Different African tribes have had religious mythos just as long. A lot of the creator Deities like Oludumare don’t involve themselves in human affairs so a Gods chosen people is a foreign concept.


They are using Genesis 10:6-12 to claim the fathers of nations. We have genetic testing now. We don’t need to understand who we are from a book that we predate. We are the original man.

They are now speaking of skin color. They are using race science in an idea that should be based on genetic science. People who live in equatorial zones will have dark skin.

Now they are trying to find out the ethnicity of a mythological person in Abraham. It’s like finding Spider-Man’s race.

Now he’s trying to equate Sumerian civilization to the Palestinians of the Bible. That has been debunked for years. I won’t waste my time.

I have to pause this. I can’t do anymore. I’ll finish later. Well I may not. Lol

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It is nice of you to link to the Wikipedia page pointing out that the interview is considered a fake and White just made up that Rosenthal said it.
I was only pointing out that this is not his (movie creators) words.

Half-way through this movie, this is the only extreme controversial thing.

Everything else is basically loose information.
 

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Couldn't agree more.
I'm going to watch the movie and see what the fuss is all about. The ones with the built in bias out there are the individuals that worry me the most. They have their minds made up without even listening to opposing positions.

As for Kyrie the player. He's simply fantastic. A pleasure to watch play. I hope his career isn't affected by this severely.
Just what Oracle needs. Another conspiracy theory to believe in.

On a more serious note. There are pro social beliefs that need to be encouraged and fostered in order to keep society united. If we were to encourage anyone with a wackadoo theory about how evil Jews are to spout that horseshit, some people would believe it. Irving sure believes it. And when people believe shit like that about Jews, Muslims, Blacks, whites, gays, whoever, they go out and hurt them. That's bad in itself. But it's also divisive and fractures society as a whole and makes it unmanageable and violent.

You get shit happening like religious wars. Can't happen here?...... Northern Ireland is certainly part of the "west".

So you discourage hate-bullshit by shutting it down. It's sensible and avoids the worse alternative, which is synagogue shootings, etc.
 

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It is truly hilarious how consumed some of you are that Kyrie has an opinion of his own. Right or wrong he can say anything that he likes.
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He can say what he wants. The company he works for is also allowed to decide if his statements harm their business interests. Why is that so complicated?
 
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