Kyle Rittenhouse trial

[mandrill]

If they were arguing he was 'evil', sure.
But arguing that he's a teen who can't control his anger surely must be relevant to claims of self defence.

Rosenbaum was reported to be aggressive, but not a threat, by the ex-marine who was trying to watch KR.

KR"s maturity and ability to deal with violent situations I would think would be relevant.

Absolutely.

But that comes across pretty amply from his behaviour on the night in question. The problem is that Rosenbaum really was aggressive and really was a threat. He chased KR and lunged at him. The evidence is not that KR hunted Rosenbaum down in a rage and shot him as he begged for mercy.

 

[mandrill]

Exactly. Lefties love BLM/Antifa as a theory and ideology as long as those violent thugs stay the hell out of their own neighbourhoods.

Who are these "lefties", BBW? The imaginary people that Fucker Carlson gets you so mad at each night that you can't get to sleep and punch your pillow?

I don't like antifa. I wouldn't want them in my hood.

I'm fine with the vast majority of BLM protestors because it's clear the vast majority were non violent and law abiding.

 

[K Douglas]

I am confident that KR will be found not guilty on all three murder charges. I thought it was clear from the video footage that he was acting in self defense.

 

[basketcase]

Yeah you see I just don't call people defending property from being burned and looted vigilantes.......

Call me crazy.

They weren't defending their property. They randomly showed up at someone else's property and waved guns.

Especially when their compatriot instigated the whole confrontation....

So allegedly being confrontational justifies being shot. I get it.

 

[basketcase]

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If he was black and being chased by the proud boys you can be damn sure they they would try to go as soft on him as possible.
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Ife he was a black man being chased by a racist mob, the AG might see it as clear self defence but cops in the US don't have a good history when dealing with armed black men in high pressure situations.

 

[basketcase]

A history of violence eh?.........LOL.......Man you like to must lie don't you.

And don't bring out that video of him in a skirmish in a parking lot with some kids his own age as evidence.

Your boogie men the Proud Boys are another red herring. There's no evidence that prior to this event KR had any association with them.

Christ the Proud Boys leader is Cuban and they have black members.

You just hate them because they like to repel your Marxist buddies from doing their burning and looting.

Calling Proud Boys a red herring while bitching about "Marxists"?

 

[Frankfooter]

Absolutely.

But that comes across pretty amply from his behaviour on the night in question. The problem is that Rosenbaum really was aggressive and really was a threat. He chased KR and lunged at him. The evidence is not that KR hunted Rosenbaum down in a rage and shot him as he begged for mercy.

Rosembaum was aggressive in nature, but the ex-marine with KR said he wasn't a threat.
And didn't the FBI show video with KR holding a fire extinguisher and chasing Rosenbaum, IIRC?

 

[The Oracle]

So allegedly being confrontational justifies being shot. I get it.

Lighting dumpsters on fire and trying push them into buildings to set them on fire is what you call confrontational eh?

And yeah where I come from you get shot for that.

 

[Drakarys]

I am confident that KR will be found not guilty on all three murder charges. I thought it was clear from the video footage that he was acting in self defense.

Correction!
3 people shot, 2 dead, 1 still alive.

From the trial:

The first man shot by Kyle Rittenhouse on the streets of Kenosha was “hyperaggressive” that night, threatened to kill Rittenhouse and later lunged for his rifle just before the 17-year-old fired, witnesses testified Thursday.

Witnesses at Kyle Rittenhouse trial testify 1st man fatally shot was ‘hyperaggressive’ - National | Globalnews.ca

Two witnesses were called to the stand by the prosecution but gave accounts often more favorable to the defense in the politically polarizing case.

globalnews.ca

Perhaps they're dead because they deserved it. Fuck 'em!

 

[The Oracle]

Calling Proud Boys a red herring while bitching about "Marxists"?

Marxism has toppled governments and caused the deaths of millions throughout history.

The Proud Boys have done what exactly........They can't even beat down a bunch of lunatics holding black umbrellas for Christs sake.

But you keep on beating that drum.......

 

[mandrill]

Lighting dumpsters on fire and trying push them into buildings to set them on fire is what you call confrontational eh?

And yeah where I come from you get shot for that.

If you shoot people for lighting dumpsters on fire where you come from, the prisons must be pretty full of murderers.

 

[mandrill]

Marxism has toppled governments and caused the deaths of millions throughout history.
The Proud Boys have done what exactly........They can't even beat down a bunch of lunatics holding black umbrellas for Christs sake.
But you keep on beating that drum.......

And right wing street gangs like the Proud Boys also helped Hitler get into power and that set up the Holocaust and World War Two.

And the reason that the Brownshirts and Hitler took power was guys like you back in 1930's Germany who said that the "Marxists" would seize power if they didn't elect Hitler.

 

[mandrill]

Rosembaum was aggressive in nature, but the ex-marine with KR said he wasn't a threat.
And didn't the FBI show video with KR holding a fire extinguisher and chasing Rosenbaum, IIRC?

If you have a link w the fire extinguisher, I would love to see it.

Rosenbaum is likely to be far less of a threat to a tough-ass ex Marine than to a 16 year old kid like KR.

 

[Bbw hunter]

Who are these "lefties", BBW? The imaginary people that Fucker Carlson gets you so mad at each night that you can't get to sleep and punch your pillow?

I don't like antifa. I wouldn't want them in my hood.

I'm fine with the vast majority of BLM protestors because it's clear the vast majority were non violent and law abiding.

I sleep very well at night.
Carlson is good but I prefer Hannity.
Lefties are everywhere now...in the media, academia, social media , and many Western governments and even on this board.
You really can't miss them.
And they want to destroy everything that's good and holy.

 

[Bbw hunter]

But they will allow evidence on the character of the people they won't call 'victims'?
One might think that in a case about self defence that the ability of the person to respond to threats is as important as the threat.
Like how a 17 year old with an AR-15 reacts vs the vet who was watching him, who said V#1 was acting irrationally but wasn't a threat.
In this case, an immature person without the ability to read the situation and a deadly weapon lead to a different reaction to someone who knows how to deal with stress and weapons.

Does the self defence claim trumpet those arguments?

This came out today as well.
Manager of Car Lot Kyle Rittenhouse Took It Upon Himself to Protect Says No One Was Authorized to Guard Business on Night of Shooting

Just how "mature" do you need to be before you stop feeling threatened when angry rioters are chasing you while yelling "get him!"?

 

[Frankfooter]

Lighting dumpsters on fire and trying push them into buildings to set them on fire is what you call confrontational eh?

And yeah where I come from you get shot for that.

And here I was thinking you were Canadian.

 

[bver_hunter]

I sleep very well at night.
Carlson is good but I prefer Hannity.
Lefties are everywhere now...in the media, academia, social media , and many Western governments and even on this board.
You really can't miss them.
And they want to destroy everything that's good and holy.

Carlson and Hannity.......... say no more. LOL!!
So You have come to this "Holy" site called TERB. OIC......... ROTFLMAO!!

 

[Frankfooter]

If you have a link w the fire extinguisher, I would love to see it.

Rosenbaum is likely to be far less of a threat to a tough-ass ex Marine than to a 16 year old kid like KR.

Here it is:
In addition to the widely shared photos and videos, the jury also saw something new to the public: infrared footage of Rittenhouse's encounter with Rosenbaum recorded from overhead by an FBI airplane.

The video appears to show that, at first, Rittenhouse was pursuing Rosenbaum into the used car lot. Rosenbaum appears to pause between two cars as Rittenhouse runs around them. Then, Rosenbaum appears to chase Rittenhouse before Rittenhouse stops and shoots him.

Just how "mature" do you need to be before you stop feeling threatened when angry rioters are chasing you while yelling "get him!"?

You need to be mature enough to legally own and carry the weapon for a starter, then you need to be mature enough not to take a semi-automatic into a protest to pretend you're a medic and pretend you're protecting businesses. And mature enough to stay away from people who appear unstable.

 

[y2kmark]

And they want to destroy everything that's good and holy.

Everything that's good and holy? All that deplorable shit?...

 

[mandrill]

I sleep very well at night.
Carlson is good but I prefer Hannity.
Lefties are everywhere now...in the media, academia, social media , and many Western governments and even on this board.
You really can't miss them.
And they want to destroy everything that's good and holy.

So what's "good and holy" for you, bb?