I'm with you on that. Even if their boat was just up on plane, certainly less than 40 km/h it would've bee enough to kill someone. The fact that the other boat was stationary with no nav lights is a major factor. Who in their right mind stops their boat in open water on a pitch black night with no lights on?If they did not have nav lights on I have no idea how she really could have avoided them. It can be pitch dark out there and if she was going at even a moderate clip of 40 kph she would have little chance to avoid them
At the moment, we don't know why she was charged with careless. Do you honestly expect boat to travel no faster than a trolling speed at night?Ya... I'm sure she's charged for Careless due to "driving" the boat at speed while dark... If she was safely puttering home, she wouldn't have ramped over the other boat.
That will keep you from hitting rocks or running ashore, but not much else.I'll assume the O'Leary boat was rigged up for wayfinding back home while dark...
While that may have helped avoid a boat stopped in the water without lights, the fact remains, boats are highly visible from a great distance on a dark night with no moon when they have their nav lights on.There aren't many spots to install a radar or night vision system on a small power boat. They might have a GPS / chart plotter, but that doesn't help in detecting other boats. You also need someone monitoring it. The best gear in this scenario would be a handheld spotlight to keep watch on the horizon.
O'Leary said the other boat fled the scene, which they did. Now we know why, to seek medical attention. O'Leary's did the same thing. This is a non-issue.Noticed that the driver of the other boat was not charged with fleeing the scene as O’leary claimed.
Obviously he was not being upfront about that, so what else is he being on truthful about.
Tell that to Marco Muzzo how much u think hes paying each time the family he killed goes to the press 30mill. They could destroy Olearys celebrity brand ability to pitch. His insurance will cover some. Does he want to fight it out in civil. Insurance covers 5mill oleary chips another 5mill to quiet it up. He probably has supplemental. Hes lucky to be in the clear.In Canada we are less litigious and the settlements are way less.
If it’s a non-issue then why did he mention it as if they did something malicious.I'm with you on that. Even if their boat was just up on plane, certainly less than 40 km/h it would've bee enough to kill someone. The fact that the other boat was stationary with no nav lights is a major factor. Who in their right mind stops their boat in open water on a pitch black night with no lights on?
At the moment, we don't know why she was charged with careless. Do you honestly expect boat to travel no faster than a trolling speed at night?
That will keep you from hitting rocks or running ashore, but not much else.
While that may have helped avoid a boat stopped in the water without lights, the fact remains, boats are highly visible from a great distance on a dark night with no moon when they have their nav lights on.
I've boated extensively in northern Ontario every summer for over 50 years. Much of it at night until recently as our cottage was water access only. I've had a couple close calls with boats that didn't have lights on. It drives me nuts because it's so irresponsible.
O'Leary said the other boat fled the scene, which they did. Now we know why, to seek medical attention. O'Leary's did the same thing. This is a non-issue.
I actually met and spoke with Kevin at an event last year. The police play politics like everyone else. They don't want to appear to have been influenced by fame and money so they laid a perhaps unnecessarily harsh charge knowing that it will be plead down or Greenspan will make them look like idiots. How many government prosecutors (99% of which are average to below average in skill and competency or they would be making 2 or 3 times as much in a private firm) want to go up against someone as smart and knowledgeable as Greenspan.If it’s a non-issue then why did he mention it as if they did something malicious.
Especially when he did the same thing.
The police obviously think his wife has done something wrong so they have charged her. Now we’ll see what happens in court. Judging from the evidence so far it seems as if both parties have done something wrong.
I'm not defending O'Leary (personally I think he's a d-bag) but all he said was the other boat didn't have nav lights on and fled the scene. We now know the other boat left the scene to go to a nearby marina to seek medical attention. That's why it's a non-issue.If it’s a non-issue then why did he mention it as if they did something malicious.
Especially when he did the same thing.
The police obviously think his wife has done something wrong so they have charged her. Now we’ll see what happens in court. Judging from the evidence so far it seems as if both parties have done something wrong.
We can only speculate as to why she was charged at this point but yes, Police will often lay charges even though there's no possibility of conviction. I'm guessing that if the other boat in fact had no nav lights on at the time, it's going to be a big part of O'Leary's defence. I doubt either party will be convicted in the end.I actually met and spoke with Kevin at an event last year. The police play politics like everyone else. They don't want to appear to have been influenced by fame and money so they laid a perhaps unnecessarily harsh charge knowing that it will be plead down or Greenspan will make them look like idiots.
Since the driver of the other boat, Richard Ruh of Orchard Park, N.Y., was charged with “failing to exhibit navigation light while underway,” according to a news release from Ontario Provincial Police, it's safe to say they didn't have lights on.We don't know which lights the other boat was showing.
This is from an article on night boating. "There’s a reason boats lack headlights like automobiles. Don’t flash lights directly at other boaters or you’ll blind and disorient them, which only makes matters worse! When your eyes have adjusted to the dark, shining a spotlight makes one have to first squint off the glare."If the other boat was watching fireworks, it's not impossible they turned the lights off for a better view. This is a bad idea of course, and illegal. That said, if O'Leary's boat was at speed, it should have had a lookout in the bow and a searchlight going.
Rule #1 is navigation lights must be illuminated while underway between sunset and sunrise. Stopped in the middle of a lake on a dark night with no moon and your nav lights off is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of.I do know the three most important rules of boating. Rule number 2 is "Only go as fast as you are prepared to hit something."
Well, a $150 fine and of course, two lives.https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/linda-o-...time-for-charge-in-fatal-boat-crash-1.4634435
Interesting development. After initially declaring that the maximun penalty was 18 months in jail and a $1MM fine for careless operation of a watercraft the PPSC (Public Prosecution Service of Canada) has recanted. O'Leary's lawyer Brian Greenspan looked at the applicable statute and determined that was for a commercial vessel. For a recreational craft the maximun penalty is a fine alone of up to $10,000.
"O yeah guess you're right, sorry 'bout that". You sure have to shake your head at the incompetence on display here. They don't even know their own laws? Given the circumstances it was just a tragic accident and notwithstanding the two deaths wouldn't surprise me if the outcome was a finding of not guilty. The other party will pay a $150 fixed penalty for not having an illuminated stern light.
The flight with Meng Wanzhou could have been diverted to Mexico?? Where does he get those so called "facts"?? Even if that was true, was the Government informed about it prior to the arrest of the Huawei Executive??Drunken Trillionaire is still running his mouth. Obviously his conscience doesn't bother him...better to decrease the surplus population.
I don't blame the woman's family filing this claim I suspect both boat owners have a $2m liability policy on their boats, which will cover the defence and damages. Which is good for the family of the deceased woman. This is why we should all have good liability insurance to take care of anyone that we might harm in our activities.
I agree with O'leary on a few points, especially the Chinese Cluster fuck. And I place those failures at the feet of Freeland and JRW, who are both INCOMPETENT. The PM is no lawyer, Justice minsiter gives him legal options, Foreign Minister gives strategic options. Then Trudeau maybe guided or ill advised by Telford or whoever, makes statements on the situation that the Chinese know are FALSE. That file is utterly embarassing I have to admit. On the flipside the team got smart and competent people to do a good job with the NAFTA deals. Freeland should be gone.
Why because I complain about a bad result and compliment a good result? The PM has ministers and deputy ministers and ambassadors.. no person can do it all alone.Giving you the benefit of the doubt... are you drunk?
If not, this rant explains a lot about your other posts! Lol!
Still drunk... :very_drunk:Why because I complain about a bad result and compliment a good result? The PM has ministers and deputy ministers and ambassadors.. no person can do it all alone.
Still drunk... :very_drunk: