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Kautilya

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Your joking right?
Name one. Name one country that as a matter of official policy, promotes terror. Name one country, that also does not have terror groups. Not your own notions, actual facts.
 

basketcase

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When you are a businessman operating a multi-billion dollar business you need to have some comprehension as to how the economy works, and how even foreign policy affects the domestic economy.

As a basketball player, all you need to know is how to throw a ball into a hoop (in the NBA, for the best shooters, defence is optional!). And you only have to get it right 56% of the time (that's Kareem's career shooting percentage!).

Being a businessman is an infinitely better background to form and evaluate public policy, particularly as it relates to the economy or foreign relations.

If I wanted advice from a basketball player it's more likely to be about what are the best basketball shoes, or what are the most roomy cars to drive in, or how to pay off gold diggers.

I think an auto assembly line worker probably has a better working knowledge of the economy than a basketball player.

As to politicians, at least they had to make their poltical views known and get elected by voters. Nobody voted for the political views of basketball players.
Amazing that you argue the polar opposite of your views on right-wing people facing consequences from their companies.

And I see you ignored my question about what exactly qualified people like Boebert, MTG, Gaetz, or Gosar for you to consider their opinion more relevant than anyone else. And I know it's irrelevant to you but Kareem earned a degree in History which makes him somewhat qualified to speak.
 

basketcase

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Nope!..Those countries were the homes of a terror groups so guess what?...They're banned. Makes sense. Otherwise your buddies will be blowing things up over here.
The US is also home to terror groups. Should we ban US travellers because Canada lists a half dozen US groups as terrorists?
 

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Brittney Griner made my mind up for me on this one...When she came back from Russia she completely reversed on her activist views and not standing for the national anthem. Seems she gained a whole new perspective on ''American Freedoms'' when she was detained. Perhaps these pampered snowflake athletes should take a note here.

Stand for your anthem and take a solace that you can actually vote in a free a democratic system that will determine its future.
Interesting. You're saying people shouldn't strive to see their country get better because some other places are worse?
 

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No country promotes terrorism via official policy. ...
Iran? Their IRGC Quds force is expressly established to support and promote terrorism that furthers Iran's geopolitical interest.

From Canada's terror designation.
Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' Qods Force
Also known as
Pasdaran-e Enghelab-e Islami (Pasdaran), Sepah-e Qods, Qods/Quds, al Quds, al Quds Force, Qods/Quds Force, Qods Corps, Jerusalem Corps, Jerusalem Force and Qods Force.

Description
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' Qods Force is the clandestine branch of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) responsible for extraterritorial operations, and for exporting the Iranian Revolution through activities such as facilitating terrorist operations. The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' Qods Force provides arms, funding and paramilitary training to extremist groups, including the Taliban, Lebanese Hizballah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC).

Date listed
2012-12-17

Date reviewed
2018-11-21



Add to that, Hamas is the government of Gaza and a terror group while the PA pays salaries to terrorists killed or arrested by Israel and Fatah has a faction considered terrorists by Canada.
 

Kautilya

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Iran? Their IRGC Quds force is expressly established to support and promote terrorism that furthers Iran's geopolitical interest.

From Canada's terror designation.
Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' Qods Force
Also known as
Pasdaran-e Enghelab-e Islami (Pasdaran), Sepah-e Qods, Qods/Quds, al Quds, al Quds Force, Qods/Quds Force, Qods Corps, Jerusalem Corps, Jerusalem Force and Qods Force.

Description
The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' Qods Force is the clandestine branch of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) responsible for extraterritorial operations, and for exporting the Iranian Revolution through activities such as facilitating terrorist operations. The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' Qods Force provides arms, funding and paramilitary training to extremist groups, including the Taliban, Lebanese Hizballah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC).

Date listed
2012-12-17

Date reviewed
2018-11-21



Add to that, Hamas is the government of Gaza and a terror group while the PA pays salaries to terrorists killed or arrested by Israel and Fatah has a faction considered terrorists by Canada.
They are analogous to the CIA and JSOC. They do support non-state actors, but so do the CIA and other US organizations. So does that mean the United States promotes terror? Would that then justify labeling every American a terrorist?
 

Kautilya

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Are you tapping into your inner Michael Rapaport with this erroneous comment?
I am not a genocide supporting maniac to be Michael Rapaport. lol.
 

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The US is also home to terror groups. Should we ban US travellers because Canada lists a half dozen US groups as terrorists?
The US actively seek out problems within their country and seeks to eliminate them whereas said other country do nadda.

So yeah we're going to take a pause in letting your fanatics in here until you get your act together.
 

Kautilya

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Geez you make the same mistake that he made...Go to 5:25
The only mistake he made, was not admit to being the racist that he always was, and instead was pretending otherwise for attention and approval to stay relevant and rekindle a flailing career. As inconsequential as he may be, he has now shown his true colours. His funeral.
 

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Iran? Their IRGC Quds force is expressly established to support and promote terrorism that furthers Iran's geopolitical interest.
Still itching for a war with Iran after all these years?
Isn't it enough to be fighting Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Palestine?
 

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A travel ban of ALL MUSLIMS, from whatever country, for whatever reason, is essentially saying that EVERYONE from that country is a terrorist.
False assumption.
 

shack

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Name one. Name one country that as a matter of official policy, promotes terror. Name one country, that also does not have terror groups. Not your own notions, actual facts.
That would be like you admitting what everyone knows, which is that you are an anti-Semite. We know that that will never happen because you would never have the integrity to do so.

A better question is, which countries are considered State sponsors of terrorism?

From Wikipedia:

In 1979, the first such list was published by the State Department, designating Iraq, Libya, South Yemen, and Syria as terrorist states.[3] As of 2024, the list consists of Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and Syria.[4]
 

Kautilya

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That would be like you admitting what everyone knows, which is that you are an anti-Semite. We know that that will never happen because you would never have the integrity to do so.

A better question is, which countries are considered State sponsors of terrorism?

From Wikipedia:

In 1979, the first such list was published by the State Department, designating Iraq, Libya, South Yemen, and Syria as terrorist states.[3] As of 2024, the list consists of Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and Syria.[4]
The state department list is irrelevant. Firstly it is the US designating it while sponsoring what one would consider terrorist activities in other countries. Pot. Kettle.

Secondly the state may or may not be terrorist. But the citizens who attempt to immigrate, are individuals and labeling them terrorists is racist and Islamophobic.

Also I am an anti-Zionist. Not anti-Jewish. Therefore your accusation of anti-semitism is, cheap and meaningless, just like your grasp on logic. 😂
 
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wigglee

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Yes, even if he wasn't also a successful businessman. Basketball players know literally nothing.
He's bankrupt now and he's been bankrupt numerous times...He'd be richer today if he invested his daddy's money in an ETF. What is your measure of success ? Going on TV and telling everybody your rich, when you're nothing but a grifter con man?
 

wigglee

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That would be like you admitting what everyone knows, which is that you are an anti-Semite. We know that that will never happen because you would never have the integrity to do so.

A better question is, which countries are considered State sponsors of terrorism?

From Wikipedia:

In 1979, the first such list was published by the State Department, designating Iraq, Libya, South Yemen, and Syria as terrorist states.[3] As of 2024, the list consists of Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and Syria.[4]
Israel would be on that list if the list was legit.
 
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