Kareem Abdul Jabbar

[shack]

So have Kahanists and the JDL, and there are Kahanists in the Israeli government so by your terms Israel is terrorist.
By your terms that means Hamas is justified in killing everyone in the Israeli government if there are terrorists there.
Your terms are stupid.

Please explain how you got from point A to point B. You are not making sense.

Israel is the occupying power, you can't say its self defence when the people you occupy and rule through apartheid use violent resistance.
That is their legal right, though they are not allowed to target civilians, if they did.
Israel, who have killed 30,000 civilians, are clearly far bigger terrorists.

So are you claiming that a prisoner in a jail can attack a guard and the guard is not allowed to defend himself? Ridiculous argument. Israel was attacked within their borders and Israel has every right to defend itself.

You want to see the three UN SC resolutions that Biden personally vetoed as proof that only Biden is allowing the genocide to continue?

Not really. No loser talk from you. Show me the UN Security Council resolution. LOL The rules were followed and no resolution was passed. Stop your whining. Where is and what good is all this international support you say Hamas has. I keep telling you that it's all cheap, meaningless talk. Hahaha. What's your next prediction?

Using terrorism against a concentration camp of refugees you are occupying is not self defence.
Its not self defence when you are also announcing you are attacking to steal their land.

Killing 1,200 innocent civilians at a rock concert is not resistance. It's cold-blooded terrorist murder which you laughingly say that you're against. Israel has a right to self-defence against terrorism.

You're admitting that Gaza is a prison camp?

You've admitted that you'd happy to see 500,000Palis die and you've admitted you hate all Israeli Jew because all of them are Zionists.

 

[Frankfooter]

So are you claiming that a prisoner in a jail can attack a guard and the guard is not allowed to defend himself? Ridiculous argument. Israel was attacked within their borders and Israel has every right to defend itself.

You are back to stating you think Gaza is a prison.
That's honest.

Not really. No loser talk from you. Show me the UN Security Council resolution. LOL The rules were followed and no resolution was passed. Stop your whining. Where is and what good is all this international support you say Hamas has. I keep telling you that it's all cheap, meaningless talk. Hahaha. What's your next prediction?

There were 3 UNSC resolutions vetoed by Biden, which is why multiple countries are now discussing ending UN vetoes.

Killing 1,200 innocent civilians at a rock concert is not resistance.

Killing 40,000 civilians is not self defence, its genocide.

You've admitted that you'd happy to see 500,000Palis die and you've admitted you hate all Israeli Jew because all of them are Zionists.

shack counter:
12 accusations of lying, 21 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof

 

[wigglee]

Your degree from Trump U is showing! I never said he's in it for the money. He's in it because he is hollow and craves attention and wants desperately to be notorious (whether for good or bad, but bad it will be, because he's a scatter brained idiot). Maybe that's why the evangelicals like him, because he'll hasten the apocalypse.

 

[shack]

You are back to stating you think Gaza is a prison.
That's honest.

No. I was using your parameters for the sake of making an analogous situation.

Are you saying that a prison guard who is being attacked by a prisoner is not allowed to defend himself. Nobody believes that.

There were 3 UNSC resolutions vetoed by Biden, which is why multiple countries are now discussing ending UN vetoes.

How many were passed?

Loser talk. That's the process of the UN. It was legal. There is no resolution against Israel passed by the official body that speaks for the world.

Killing 40,000 civilians is not self defence, its genocide.

Oct. 7 was a terror attack. Every country in the world has the right to defend itself.

Continuing to call for a ceasefire for months instead of calling for a surrender while watching Palis die every day, is approving the deaths of those civilians. You don't care how many die. They are "lesser humans" to you and Hamas whose only purpose is to be pawns in the demonization of Israel.

shack counter:

Yes, that's my counter (argument) to your lies.

 

[Frankfooter]

Are you saying that a prison guard who is being attacked by a prisoner is not allowed to defend himself. Nobody believes that.

Of course you think concentration camp guards are allowed to kill their prisoners.

Loser talk. That's the process of the UN. It was legal. There is no resolution against Israel passed by the official body that speaks for the world.

The US has pased 48 UNSC vetoes to protect Israeli war crimes.
Without that AIPAC influence Israel is screwed. No wonder the country is protesting AIPAC daily.1

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Oct. 7 was a terror attack. Every country in the world has the right to defend itself.

Israel does not have the right to self defence against the people they occupy.
You can't claim self defence against the people whose land you are actively stealing.

Continuing to call for a ceasefire for months instead of calling for a surrender while watching Palis die every day, is approving the deaths of those civilians. You don't care how many die. They are "lesser humans" to you and Hamas whose only purpose is to be pawns in the demonization of Israel.

shack counter:
12 accusations of lying, 23 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof

Israel is torturing, raping, starving and killing Palestinians.
Zionism = genocide, like the nazis.

Not just the UNRWA report: Countless accounts of Israeli torture in Gaza

Al Jazeera spoke to several released detainees about their ordeals in Israeli holding facilities.

www.aljazeera.com

Zionism was always a terrorist movement.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1767501907633885261

 

[basketcase]

These guys are.
Kahane Chai (Kach)
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They're also banned in israel.

Unlike you, I'm not willing to cheer on terrorists no matter what their religion.

 

[basketcase]

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Hamas is clear that they want Israel destroyed and Jews gone, proven by their actions yet you still cheer on a totalitarian repressive religious regime because you simply agree with their goals.

 

[basketcase]

It is not true that these lists reflect general views of our societies.

As I said, either advocate for change, move, or put up with it.

There is no reason to label all citizens from countries on these lists, as terrorists. That is just racism. It is not rational.

I agree. That's why I have clearly condemned Trumps Muslim ban, both in this thread and when it first happened. It seems you're just view the world in black and white so you're unable to read what I said.

My point is that when the US does things, we do not accuse them of sponsoring terrorism. They are simply "meddling". When Canada, harbours and infact politically protects Khalistani terrorists, who killed 300 Canadians, Canada is not accused of sponsoring terror. But a Muslim country has a terrorist group, they get put on a list and become "state sponsored terrorist states"?
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Did you seriously just complain about overly-broad usage of the term "terrorist" while broadly labelling anyone who supports Sikh independence as a terrorist? Damn.

As for Iran, it is 100% officially involved with promoting, supporting, funding, and even founding groups that Canada considers terrorists so yes, that makes them state sponsors of terrorism from a Canadian perspective.

 

[basketcase]

Genocide is terrorism on one race.
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Hamas, PFLP, PIJ, ....

I know you want Israel in a position where they can not prevent those attacks but the intent of those groups is a big part of the reason why Canada and much of the democratic world consider them terrorists, not some Jewish control like you try and portend.

 

[basketcase]

p.s. It's a shame that Frank succeeded in turning a thread about a basketball great into part of his obsessive hate campaign.

 

[Kautilya]

Did you seriously just complain about overly-broad usage of the term "terrorist" while broadly labelling anyone who supports Sikh independence as a terrorist? Damn.

As for Iran, it is 100% officially involved with promoting, supporting, funding, and even founding groups that Canada considers terrorists so yes, that makes them state sponsors of terrorism from a Canadian perspective.

Yes. People who ask for Sikh independence are supporting terrorism, intellectually. You seem to assume calls for Sikh independence is somehow justified. It is not. You know how I know? Because the 28M Sikhs in India say so. But no, it does not make those people terrorists. However, all Sikhs part of the Khalistani movement in Canada, are terrorists. The movement in Canada is full of goons and assholes who hurt Canadians and Indians.

My whole point about Iran, is that by the same definition the US would be a terrorist state. They have done all those things and more. Infact, there are other Muslim states like Saudi Arabia who can also be accused of such things, but they never get put on a list because they are allies. It is a double standard. So using such lists to argue that Trump's travel ban is not racist, is stupid. It is by all means, racist.

 

[y2kmark]

Your degree from Trump U is showing! I never said he's in it for the money. He's in it because he is hollow and craves attention and wants desperately to be notorious (whether for good or bad, but bad it will be, because he's a scatter brained idiot). Maybe that's why the evangelicals like him, because he'll hasten the apocalypse.

He's always looking for an angle, though...

 

[y2kmark]

Of course you think concentration camp guards are allowed to kill their prisoners.



The US has pased 48 UNSC vetoes to protect Israeli war crimes.
Without that AIPAC influence Israel is screwed. No wonder the country is protesting AIPAC daily.1

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Israel does not have the right to self defence against the people they occupy.
You can't claim self defence against the people whose land you are actively stealing.






shack counter:
12 accusations of lying, 23 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof

Israel is torturing, raping, starving and killing Palestinians.
Zionism = genocide, like the nazis.

Not just the UNRWA report: Countless accounts of Israeli torture in Gaza

Al Jazeera spoke to several released detainees about their ordeals in Israeli holding facilities.

www.aljazeera.com

Zionism was always a terrorist movement.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1767501907633885261

Goldstein? Wonder if he ever read 1984?

 

[shack]

Of course you think concentration camp guards are allowed to kill their prisoners.

Of course you avoid answering a direct question and make up your own narrative.

Do you feel a prison guard who is being attacked by an inmate has the right to defend himself?

The US has pased 48 UNSC vetoes to protect Israel.

Allies help each other. What have Hamas allies done to help? Wave flags and block traffic? The question is how many resolutions condemning Israel have been passed by the UN according to UN rules?
Without that AIPAC influence Israel is screwed. No wonder the country is protesting AIPAC daily.[/QUOTE] Loser, sour grapes talk. Like MAGA, are you tired of winning yet? You have so much in common with trump. You're 2 of a kind. Losers and liars.LOL

Israel does not have the right to self defence against the people they occupy.

They have the right to defend their civilians from terrorist attacks regardless of where they came from and and whoever committed them.

You can't claim self defence against the people whose land you are actively stealing.

Read above.

shack counter:
12 accusations of lying, 23 intentional misquotes (straw man arguments) - 0 proof

Don't worry. Your record is safe.

Israel is torturing, raping, starving and killing Palestinians.
Zionism = genocide, like the nazis.
Zionism was always a terrorist movement.

 

[Frankfooter]

They're also banned in israel.

Unlike you, I'm not willing to cheer on terrorists no matter what their religion.

Bullshit, Ben Gvir is a Kahanist.

Ben Gvir hails racist Kahane, is booed for saying he doesn’t want to expel all Arabs

At annual commemoration event, far-right leader pays tribute to slain Jewish supremacist, claiming he was 'ultimately about love,' is cheered after vowing to expel terrorists

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Frankfooter]

Hamas is clear that they want Israel destroyed and Jews gone, proven by their actions yet you still cheer on a totalitarian repressive religious regime because you simply agree with their goals.

No, Hamas has stated they will settle for the two state solution while Netanyahu has bragged repeatedly that he stopped it from happening for the last 2 decades and would never let it happen now.

Your lying is really pathetically bad.
Are you just giving up even trying?

 

[Frankfooter]

Hamas, PFLP, PIJ, ....

I know you want Israel in a position where they can not prevent those attacks but the intent of those groups is a big part of the reason why Canada and much of the democratic world consider them terrorists, not some Jewish control like you try and portend.

Israel will stand trial for genocide at the ICJ.
That will put them on the same moral ground as the nazis.

Its zionism that is evil and genocidal, not Hamas.
Time to re introduce UN 3379.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Frankfooter]

Of course you avoid answering a direct question and make up your own narrative.
Do you feel a prison guard who is being attacked by an inmate has the right to defend himself?

Its a concentration camp, not prison.
So the inmates are morally within their rights to attack the guards and the guards are just evil, racist fucks.

Allies help each other. What have Hamas allies done to help? Wave flags and block traffic? The question is how many resolutions condemning Israel have been passed by the UN according to UN rules?
Without that AIPAC influence Israel is screwed. No wonder the country is protesting AIPAC daily.

Loser, sour grapes talk. Like MAGA, are you tired of winning yet? You have so much in common with trump. You're 2 of a kind. Losers and liars.LOL[/QUOTE]

Israel is not an ally.
They are genocidal zionist arsewipes.
Canada should have nothing to do with them.

They have the right to defend their civilians from terrorist attacks regardless of where they came from and and whoever committed them.

Yes, Palestinians have a right to defend their civilians from foreign colonial terrorists, regardless of where they came from and their plans to take all of Palestine.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1765745989166493948

 

[shack]

p.s. It's a shame that Frank succeeded in turning a thread about a basketball great into part of his obsessive hate campaign.

From the TERB rules:

Stay on the thread topic. If your subject matter differs, start a new thread.

So we can add that to his hate speech and his use of multiple handles.

 

[richaceg]

Its a concentration camp, not prison.
So the inmates are morally within their rights to attack the guards and the guards are just evil, racist fucks.


Loser, sour grapes talk. Like MAGA, are you tired of winning yet? You have so much in common with trump. You're 2 of a kind. Losers and liars.LOL

Israel is not an ally.
They are genocidal zionist arsewipes.
Canada should have nothing to do with them.




Yes, Palestinians have a right to defend their civilians from foreign colonial terrorists, regardless of where they came from and their plans to take all of Palestine.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1765745989166493948

[/QUOTE]
you havent been to a concentration camp so stop your whining....