Doug was in an unfamiliar territory doing debates. Also worrying about his brother's cancer diagnosis would lower his enthusiasm. Think Doug really wants to run as provincial leader.
John Tory is our new Mayor!!!
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Chow supporters going to Tory, yeah right. Chow entered the race as the favourite. Her initial polling numbers were way better than wat Tory put up early in his campaign. She was the bulwark against Ford Nation, not the drab PaulMartin-like Tory who's stroke of campaign brilliance was to blow a lead in a provincial election with one of the dumbest campaign pledges of all time - hardly inspiring confidence!
It was going to be Ford vs.Chow except that Ford couldn't stop messing up - albeit with non-city related stuff - once again reminding people who agree with his platform that he's just not up to the job in other ways - plus he wasn't even campaigning or defending himself well. All things that would have encouraged & solidified the Chow support.
Chow supporters didn't defect in large numbers. Rather it was the previously uncommitted or disinterested voters who decided to come out and increase the numbers of Tory & Ford (mostly Tory) to fend off what once seemed like a possible of a Chow win.
I don't know what you're talking about, I didn't sense any huge anti-Smitherman sentiment in the last election. I don't think it was so much a rejection of him as a reactionary vote against the City Hall.
The factions which gave us a full summer & tourist season with no garbage collection and 15 foot high piles of rubbish towering over public parks & school yards. That wasted time on bullshit like plastic bag bans, coffee cup bans, the Jarvis bike lane (and general bike lane preoccupation) the ugly mess of St.Clair, among other things. And who always poured ice water on any mention of subways, which people really want.
Half the people who voted for Ford in 2010 didn't do so because they liked him, they did so to stick it to those other guys, (who ultimately would have preferred Smitherman).
Read it how you want to read it.. But I think when you've got 6 weeks (maybe more) of poll results that consistently show Chow in a distant 3rd place, you don't have a lot of people "worried" about her winning..
Real city business? What might that be?
Drowning the city in garbage to fake their way out of a financial mess?
Ordering the streetcars that aren't compatible with the platforms resulting in an extra $60M cost and more delay?
Ordering studies on banning paper coffee cups?
Brainstorming more things which could be painted in rainbow colours?
The first three are the work of retards, the fourth is an activity for kindergarten students.
Between that and the guy on crack, I'd rather have the drug addict.
More like 8 or 9 weeks in srd place, with maybe one dissenting poll. I think that's because people made their choices a couple of months ago and the finishing order was set in stone. Doug's late start (and lack of genuine motivation) was somewhat balanced out by a sympathy vote, and maybe the last minute return of some soft Ford votes who may have given up on the ticket when Rob fucked up again in the spring.
The Fords maxed out in opinion polls with Rob Ford early on in the race.. Nothing changed with Doug Ford, and anybody who views the campaigns of Rob & Doug as separate campaigns is kidding themselves (they literally campaigned on the exact same things).. I think it's pretty clear that Tory's support had nothing to do with keeping Chow out and EVERYTHING to do with keeping Ford out..
Having said that, who's to say what was in the minds of hundreds of thousands of voters.
I wouldn't say 'throw' them out.
Dougie still got too many votes IMO (Tory beat him in absolute votes but only won 1 extra ward over him), and Rofo was elected back as Councillor in Ward 2.
That is indeed a mystery. It didn't make sense that in 2010 the city that elected Ford with 54% in what I viewed as something of a protest vote, also elected so many councilors with from totally opposite philosophies and views of municipal government, nor that in 2014 with 74% of people voting for either Tory or Ford, virtually all of those same councilors were re-elected.
Right, but people liked the idea of no more garbage strikes, and perhaps got duped by the notion of keeping taxes low.
Ford wasn't elected with 54% of the vote.. He was elected with 46% of the vote.. There are a number of reasons he was elected in 2010.. I think one big reason (that his loyal followers often overlook) is that he was untested as mayor. Since then he has been tested and possibly found by the public (certainly by me) to not be up to the task of driving consensus on council to actually get much done.
It was 47% and Smitherman 35%. (12% difference ) Tory had 40% and Ford 34%. ( 6% difference) I would say that rob Ford in 2010 was closer to have the majority of votes than Tory in 2014.
I wish Tory all the best, however I don't think he will do much to improve the city. We'll see in four years.
And YES I voted for Ford and I'm not a moron for doing so. I would say that people who don't respect other people freedom of choice are the morons.
Agreed.. Much like Rob Ford himself who routinely lambasted, bullied, name called, and even robo-called (the constituents of) any councilor who dared to disagree with him (despite the fact that it was likely what their own constituents were pressuring them to do).
In 2010 people had no idea if Rob Ford would do a good job and they took a chance on him, in 2014 it appears that close to the majority of people KNEW he wouldn't do a good job (seeing as how he had 47.11 percent of the vote in 2010, and his brother could only muster 33% this time around)..
Rofo's demons make him seem unreliable. Doug is a bully and seems like an asshole (even during the debates), even though I think he can handle or do the job. Consensus though would be an issue, as well as cooperation from the provincial (especially) and federal governments.
The major job description is to have the ability to negotiate with the other levels of govt and to have the ability to get council on side.
So no, lacking those abilities Doug was NOT qualified to be Mayor.
He was musing about it and has until Jan 20th to pony up the $75,000. If he is smart he will realize that his name at this point is toast and work behind the scenes. Deco needs to get back to profitability.
He should be grooming the next set of kids if he wants to continue politically. Because no way can he ever be at the forfront in a leadership capacity again.
