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John Tory is our new Mayor!!!

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Wouldn't Tory be worse for the C 36 crackdown, or would Chow the man hating feminist be worse? Either way I could have seen the Fords being the most lenient with it.
Chow is more of a sex positive feminist
 

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I think if you actually knew the guy personally, you'd feel a lot differently.
I have recently come across two people who have known Tory for the last five years, one personally and one in business. Both said independently said that he is epitome of a gentleman and as genuine as they come. In fact, one editorial on the Toronto Sun last night worried that Tory was too much of a nice guy to be able to make tough decisions and stand up to special interests groups; i.e. he will suffer from paralysis by trying to please absolutely everyone.
 

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I have recently come across two people who have known Tory for the last five years, one personally and one in business. Both said independently said that he is epitome of a gentleman and as genuine as they come. In fact, one editorial on the Toronto Sun last night worried that Tory was too much of a nice guy to be able to make tough decisions and stand up to special interests groups; i.e. he will suffer from paralysis by trying to please absolutely everyone.
You mean special interest groups and corporations like:

1) De Luce and Porter Airlines.
2) Property developers salivating about the prospects of no development charges, property tax forgiveness and other Toronto taxpayer funded subsidies to build on Tory's designated TIF zones that they are already building on without said subsidies and which are the choices cuts of prime real estate in Canada.
3) A few thousand Scarborough denizens who have been bestowed with a 3 station Gravy Train for just +$2billion because they 'deserve it'.
4) Congesting causing car drivers who are entitled to every square meter of roadway.

He hasn't and won't be able to stand against 'his' special interest groups.
 

Butler1000

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You mean special interest groups and corporations like:

1) De Luce and Porter Airlines.
2) Property developers salivating about the prospects of no development charges, property tax forgiveness and other Toronto taxpayer funded subsidies to build on Tory's designated TIF zones that they are already building on without said subsidies and which are the choices cuts of prime real estate in Canada.
3) A few thousand Scarborough denizens who have been bestowed with a 3 station Gravy Train for just +$2billion because they 'deserve it'.
4) Congesting causing car drivers who are entitled to every square meter of roadway.

He hasn't and won't be able to stand against 'his' special interest groups.
There he is! Hey Buddy! Did you note he has already brought on Sodnacki?

And the Premier's reaction to his win?

Looks like he getting right to work. Can you say TWO terms? I can!
 

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There he is! Hey Buddy! Did you note he has already brought on Sodnacki?

And the Premier's reaction to his win?

Looks like he getting right to work. Can you say TWO terms? I can!
Soknacki is an honest and credible individual, two such qualities sorely lacking within both Tory and Wynne.

When will Tory say these words again?:

"Transit plans without funding are not transit plans."

Oh yeah, I forgot you really do not care whether he delivers on his fantasy train.
 

Butler1000

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Soknacki is an honest and credible individual, two such qualities sorely lacking within both Tory and Wynne.

When will Tory say these words again?:

"Transit plans without funding are not transit plans."

Oh yeah, I forgot you really do not care whether he delivers on his fantasy train.
Sour Grapes to make the best whine don't they?

He is going to put it all together. Once he confirms the funding from the other two levels of Govt(let's see...Wynne is on side obviously, and the Feds will have a nice surplus and an election coming...hmmm) council will come onboard. He will throw a few bones to the lefties to quiet them.

And Ford's rants against him will only solidify his position as a reasoned leader.

And Garbage east of yonge will be privatized. (Don't get Mad now!)

And the union will keep its place for a second contract(Don't get Madder now!).

Its all going to happen....and there is nothing you can do about it.
 

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Tory will have the same council Ford had. The jury is very much out on Tory's ability to function in organized chaos that is Toronto's City Hall. No yes men there or ladies-bit different from the corporate world. I heard him being not opposed to revenue tools such as tolls before he ran. If he throws his support behind such proposals, and I think he will because he thinks they make sense and will bring much of the council and Wynn on board, the Fords will destroy him in 18. So far all his supporters agree that he is a hard worker(so is a steam engine), a nice guy(so???) and all around smart operator. Yet, until now, a disaster as a political leader. Will see...
 

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Wouldn't Tory be worse for the C 36 crackdown, or would Chow the man hating feminist be worse? Either way I could have seen the Fords being the most lenient with it.
Tory is definitely better than Chow in that respect. I don't believe Tory himself has any interest in touching issues of adult entertainment & sex work.

However I do fear he could be bullied into it, just as he might be bullied into paying for new programs, departments, staff & needless studies. I am irritated by all his talk of "getting along" and "working with council". Council is shit, I want someone to stand up to them and speak for citizens not just experts & action groups. I worry that Tory will easily sell out in order to please everyone and remain close to the politically safer side of issues.

What you don't think a lot of Tory's "elitist" friends visit SP's? If people are going to put him in with that crowd fine. I defy you to name a bigger demographic for pooning than the financial one.
The elite don't have to worry about C36, or almost any law for that matter. Nothing will change for them.
 

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Tory will have the same council Ford had. The jury is very much out on Tory's ability to function in organized chaos that is Toronto's City Hall. No yes men there or ladies-bit different from the corporate world. I heard him being not opposed to revenue tools such as tolls before he ran. If he throws his support behind such proposals, and I think he will because he thinks they make sense and will bring much of the council and Wynn on board, the Fords will destroy him in 18. So far all his supporters agree that he is a hard worker(so is a steam engine), a nice guy(so???) and all around smart operator. Yet, until now, a disaster as a political leader. Will see...
The fords have been a disaster which is why voters threw them out. Blatant liars and bullies. Worst mayor ever. Buh bye.
 

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The fords have been a disaster which is why voters threw them out. Blatant liars and bullies. Worst mayor ever. Buh bye.
Absolutely. Now that Rob's safely back on the ward level where they know and like him, the rest of Council might re-discover how to get real City business done once more, with an actual Mayor rather than a wannabe pothole-patcher sowing anarchy, discord, fear and shame where we need leadership.

With the largest turnout ever, Ford Nation still lost votes compared to last time. Whether it was because the Drunken Serial Liar wasn't running, or The Smarter Enabling Bro' was, the 'Ford' part of whatever passes for thought in that population just wasn't the draw it once was. And we can all be grateful for that.
 

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I think Tory won because nobody wanted to see Ford or Chow get in. He was the Lesser of the three evils so to speak. Basically what happened in the Provincial election as well Hudak was too weak ,nobody wanted Horwath therefore Wynne won handily.
A. Another way of looking at last night is that over 70% voted against Ford Nation.
I see it differently. I think it was 70% "anyone but Olivia Chow"vote, and the 30% by Doug Ford was a remarkable success under the circumstances.

For Chow to finish a distant 3rd despite the dream scenario Tory & D.Ford splitting the right-wing vote is a debacle of Hudakesque proportion!

Doug's 30% is impressive when you consider that in addition to splitting the right wing vote with Tory he also
1) only entered the campaign on the very last day with only a couple of days notice & consideration.
2) he is nowhere near the charismatic, funny & quotable campaigner that his brother is
3) his lack of genuine enthusiasm for the job was pretty evident - he was doing this for Rob, under a sort of "dying wish" motivation and defiance of their enemies in City Hall & the press, otherwise his heart wasn't really in it.

Thanks to Rob fucking himself with drugs yet again and having no more options but to go to rehab and miss the better part of 2 months campaigning as well as shaking whatever confidence there was in him even lasting through the campaign, I think that;'s when Tory really took control of the race as more people saw him as the best defense against a Chow victory.
 

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There were certainly quite a lot of Chow supporters who voted Tory to make sure Ford didn't win. I doubt there were really any Ford supporters who voted Tory to make sure Chow didn't win. There's a core of moron voters in Toronto who idiotically support Ford despite the fact that he's a liar and a bully, but the great majority of Toronto voters have had enough of their nonsense.
 

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There were certainly quite a lot of Chow supporters who voted Tory to make sure Ford didn't win. I doubt there were really any Ford supporters who voted Tory to make sure Chow didn't win. There's a core of moron voters in Toronto who idiotically support Ford despite the fact that he's a liar and a bully, but the great majority of Toronto voters have had enough of their nonsense.
This pretty well sums up how I view things.
 

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There were certainly quite a lot of Chow supporters who voted Tory to make sure Ford didn't win. I doubt there were really any Ford supporters who voted Tory to make sure Chow didn't win. There's a core of moron voters in Toronto who idiotically support Ford despite the fact that he's a liar and a bully, but the great majority of Toronto voters have had enough of their nonsense.
Tory up the middle for the win. Where else on the spectrum would anyone expect the majority of the votes to be?
 

AdamH

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Unless he has a convincingly life altering epiphany, Toronto won't elect a Ford to the position of mayor again. They have a strong 33% of the popular vote, but that's it. It's pretty much exactly what experts predicted. The Ford's felt they represented the majority of Torontonians the last 4 years, when they were really only representing a third of them.. The rest of their support in the 2010 election came from people who just didn't want to see Smitherman leading our city.
 
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