What shame? He's a Nazi and has lived a fruitful life.
Probably at home trying on his old uniform right now.
Jewish group demands apology after MPs honoured man who fought for Nazis
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Probably at home trying on his old uniform right now.
Tell me you can't read without telling me. No, I don't support a Nazi group as you support illiteracy and putting words in people's mouths. I support getting the actual facts and finding out if this individual actually did anything worth condemning. The only actual evidence I've seen says he joined them to fight Rusians invading his country. If the US invaded Canada and the only opposition was the Proud Boys, then people would join them just to fight back. War makes strange bedfellows, and your complets lack of judgment is what is of concern here. Grow the F up
What atrocity did he commi? Do you have any evidence or do you just parrot what others tell you like a lemming?
Wouldn't that be something, if anyone actually looked into what he did rather than what a group he joined did years prior?
Everyone seems to be forgetting that the speaker of the house isn't part of a party, they are elected by the full house and everyone has to agree.
There is if you didn't actually commit any atrocities. What I've read is he joined them because they were the only opposition to the Russians in Ukraine. No one has said anything showing he was part of their ear,jer efforts against Jews. That omission is telling. If all he did was fight communists just as bad as the Nazis, he should be given a parade.
I'm ashamed of our "leaders" who go nuts over the Speaker's lack of due diligence, then immediately turn to condemn a man that no one has any evidence did anything other than kill Russians as bad as the Nazis.
That's par for the course with some members here. Disagree with anything and "they" will get on their soapbox and scream Nazi, racist, bigot, transphobic, Islamophobic, etc. Impossible to have an intelligent and rational debate with those members.This is standard operating procedure. Disagree with anything and you're a Nazi. See Godwin's Law.
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"What I've read is he joined them because they were the only opposition to the Russians in Ukraine. No one has said anything showing he was part of their ear,jer efforts against Jews."
I think that's all we know. Maybe the Poles know more but their request for extradition came pretty late in the day.
You do know that in WWII the Russians were our Allies? Right? and BTW the Waffen SS was responsible for their brutality!
Exactly, even Pollievre doesn't seem to understand this. The people so proud of our country and its rules don't even know what the rules are. These are the people who criticize immgrants but would fail an immigrant citizenship test.
You do know that the Rusians were our enemy and Nazi ally when the war started, but we got over it eh? And that Russa was the enemy of Ukraine, the country in question, where the Soviets starved more Ukrainians than the Nazis killed Jews? As I said, it was a mes. And stil, no one has any evidence this individual did anything. BTW, there is a monument honouring people like him who fought "our ally" in Edmonton eh? Apparently we weren't outraged at that.
Yes, the whole country should apologize!! This was a major gaffe!! Remember the adage that if you don't understand history you are doomed to repeat it!! Understanding history is the key to who we are.
Well in Russian history they starved everybody!! so I get that...It is one thing to fight for Ukrainian freedom as did many in WWII in the French underground. It is very different to join the Waffen SS who were actively wanting to exterminate the Jews and kill Russians.
BTW there has been significant outrage from the Jewish community regarding the monuments that you speak about in Edmonton! Maybe now they will listen?
In the case of Nazis, immediate non-condemnation and an apathy for bringing him to justice = tacit approval if not admiration.
Although I understand your perspective the key issue in this case is the way that the Nazis trained and indoctrinated anyone that worked with them. The "Final Solution" was all about exterminating a race of people. I was not trying to be over simplistic about the situation but I would find it hard to believe that any of the Waffen SS did not understand the depth of what they were involved in.
I'm weighing in here really late. But, what a fucking embarrassment. I think Trudeau needs to make an apology, even if the fact of the matter were that the Speaker's Office fucked the dog on this one. Rota is out, but the stink remains.
Now, I know there are some saying that this unit had volunteers who specifically fought against only the Red Army, which I don't blame them after the atrocity of the Holdomor. History is complicated. But...the fact this dude wasn't vetted before being bestowed that honour....And now Poland is thinking about asking for his extradition...ugh...
Now, I know there are some saying that this unit had volunteers who specifically fought against only the Red Army, which I don't blame them after the atrocity of the Holdomor. History is complicated. But...the fact this dude wasn't vetted before being bestowed that honour....And now Poland is thinking about asking for his extradition...ugh...
