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Big Rig said:
Oh I AM TIRED OF WATCHING HOFFMAN BLOW LEADS. His glory days are over
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You can say that again. And again and again and again… Jeff Hoffman needs to go. He is not a clutch performer and he folds under pressure. He's almost always given a clean inning and there's no excuse for this nonsense. He is a momentum killer. The Jays finally get to 500 and he fucked it all up and they lose again today… Total momentum killjoy. I feel bad for him. I mean he seems like such a nice delicate guy… But he's not a clutch performer and we don't need that in our bullpen… The Blue Jays let Chad Green go so they can also let Jeff Hoffman go. For our franchise that is so fast to DFA people… I'm surprised he's still here. I would expect the Jays to eat the remaining contract and just let Hoffman walk.

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You can say that again. And again and again and again… Jeff Hoffman needs to go. He is not a clutch performer and he folds under pressure. He's almost always given a clean inning and there's no excuse for this nonsense. He is a momentum killer. The Jays finally get to 500 and he fucked it all up and they lose again today… Total momentum killjoy. I feel bad for him. I mean he seems like such a nice delicate guy… But he's not a clutch performer and we don't need that in our bullpen… The Blue Jays let Chad Green go so they can also let Jeff Hoffman go. For our franchise that is so fast to DFA people… I'm surprised he's still here. I would expect the Jays to eat the remaining contract and just let Hoffman walk.

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I put some of the blame on Schneider. He left Hoffman in long past it was clear he didn't have it. Hoffman is good when he's on, but a disaster when he's not. Bringing him in with a 4 run lead was ok. But, have someone warming up just in case he doesn't have it. Hoffman seems like a good guy and good teammate and I don't like to pile on when someone like that is going through a tough time.
 
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tml said:
I put some of the blame on Schneider. He left Hoffman in long past it was clear he didn't have it. Hoffman is good when he's on, but a disaster when he's not. Bringing him in with a 4 run lead was ok. But, have someone warming up just in case he doesn't have it. Hoffman seems like a good guy and good teammate and I don't like to pile on when someone like tat is going through a tough time.
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Schneider should take the blame just for putting him in even if it was for just one batter.
 
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tml said:
I put some of the blame on Schneider. He left Hoffman in long past it was clear he didn't have it. Hoffman is good when he's on, but a disaster when he's not. Bringing him in with a 4 run lead was ok. But, have someone warming up just in case he doesn't have it. Hoffman seems like a good guy and good teammate and I don't like to pile on when someone like tat is going through a tough time.
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He left him in because the backup plan was Seabold who had been recently released be Detroit. They had to go some combo of Hoffman and Varland in the 8th and 9th.

I know the strategy was Varland to go against the best hitters... but with Hoffman's ability to really lose it quickly, you needed him to go first and have Varland back him, even if Hoffman faces the better hitters.
 
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He left him in because the backup plan was Seabold who had been recently released be Detroit. They had to go some combo of Hoffman and Varland in the 8th and 9th.

I know the strategy was Varland to go against the best hitters... but with Hoffman's ability to really lose it quickly, you needed him to go first and have Varland back him, even if Hoffman faces the better hitters.
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Thats a good point. Put in Hoffman and put Varland on quick standby if Hoffman stumbles

But, in the game under consideration, that means put Hoffman against the heart of the batting order and not being able to pull him for the next 3 batters when you only
had a 1 run lead
 
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