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Wait until you see the kid they got back in that deal though. He's a phenom.
Yeah, I just read about that. All I've gathered really was it was a top five prospect. For a proven dominant major leaguer that is young with years of control… I have a hard time with that one. Mason Miller is a show stopping 27-year-old 104 mph flame throwing phenom proven major leaguer with four years of control. With the move to the bright lights of Vegas coming up… what more could you possibly want? I just ain't feeling that trade lol.

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Yeah, I just read about that. All I've gathered really was it was a top five prospect. For a proven dominant major leaguer that is young with years of control… I have a hard time with that one. Mason Miller is a show stopping 27-year-old 104 mph flame throwing phenom proven major leaguer with four years of control. With the move to the bright lights of Vegas coming up… what more could you possibly want? I just ain't feeling that trade lol.

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Philip, keep in mind that the A's are not looking to contend right now. They're stuck playing in a AAA stadium for the next two years. By the time they get to Las Vegas, Mason Miller would be in his second year of Arbitration eligibility, and he'd either start to cost them a lot or he'd return less in a trade. It was a good trade for the A's, when the team goal is to 'win soon' as opposed to 'win now'.
 
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Haha brain fart. That being said Max Muncy the veteran would be a good addition to help with player development.
Use that information in this year's Rotisserie auction - nominate him in round 1 if he isn't currently owned, and someone else will likely overpay.

That's a veteran strategy in a start up league; early in the auction, don't throw out names of guys you want, go with the guys who would cost a dollar later, then keep your mouth shut. If nobody else wants to bid, you get the guys for a buck. It's a win-win, for everyone except the guy who makes the top bid.
 
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The big piece that the A's acquired for Mason Miller is Shortstop Leo De Vries. Here are his Minor League numbers:

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What stand out for me most is that he finished the season at AA, at age 18. He was 5.9 years younger than the average age of players at that level!

When you look at the all-time greats in almost every sport, what almost all of them have in common is competent performance against opposition significantly older than they are. The sky is the limit for this kid now, provided that he can avoid having sex with underage girls, which derailed a similar Dominican Shortstop named Wander Franco.
 
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The big piece that the A's acquired for Mason Miller is Shortstop Leo De Vries. Here are his Minor League numbers:

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What stand out for me most is that he finished the season at AA, at age 18. He was 5.9 years younger than the average age of players at that level!

When you look at the all-time greats in almost every sport, what almost all of them have in common is competent performance against opposition significantly older than they are. The sky is the limit for this kid now, provided that he can avoid having sex with underage girls, which derailed a similar Dominican Shortstop named Wander Franco.
I get the feeling that it's still a roll of the dice for a proven major leaguer… Not a fan of the move. Far too many GM's overlook the value of being an established star at the major league level. I have a hard time wrapping my mind around what the athletics could possibly be searching for that goes beyond what they already had. Mason Miller is a sick ass lights out closer.

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Philip, an elite Closer isn't usually a priority roster fill for a non contender. Pitchers who have velocity similar to Miller often tend to have arm trouble at some point in their career, if not periodically. The human arm was not designed to endure torque of that magnitude on a regular basis.

Jacob Wilson, just signed to a 7 year, $70 Million extension, was rookie last year, he's also a Shortstop. He was leading the AL in batting average well into the season before dropping off in the second half, while playing through an injury.

Consider what Wilson might yield, if he was traded two years from now, with five years of club control remaining at around $10 Million a season. Wilson was the #6 overall pick in the 2023 Draft
 
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Philip, an elite Closer isn't usually a priority roster fill for a non contender.
I don't agree. I would say an elite closer should be more so of a priority… It's a nice balance of not knowing when he can enter a game and it could be at any given moment. It's an attraction. Whenever I have watched Mason Miller pitch I am at the edge of my seat, literally. He is an unbelievably exciting player/talent. I don't see the value in trading him for what they got. I would've preferred to see them enter the bright lights of Vegas with a star started flamethrower.

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