Jack Morris Suspended - Racist Comments towards Shohei Ohtani

[onomatopoeia]

An important component in Judicial decisions is Intent. I don't see that Jack Morris intended to offend anybody, and his apology came only after someone higher up informed him of his faux pas.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

And as I'd said, it was not a "slip of the tongue" as Phil would have us believe. It was not a poor choice of a single inappropriate word. If it was a single word I could believe Phil's narrative and many of us fall prey to that.

But he went into character with his voice, accent and a number of words. It was deliberate and he knew exactly what he was doing.

Phil is making excuses for someone who intentionally employed racist stereotypes. We should keep in mind, though that Phil is a rightie. Racism is the domain of righties.

Righties don't like people "who don't look like them".

I'll bet you're the perfect human being who's never laughed at an off-colour joke in your entire life.

BTW you Lefties always preach we shouldnt stereotype other races or groups of people, and here you are doing that exact same thing about right-wingers.

 

[asuran]

Had he done it without the accent it would have been nothing.
Why was there a need to use that accent if not to mock Ohtani based on his Asian race?

100% a racist comment and he got caught on live tv.

 

[black booty lover]

I've still yet to hear anyone talk about what would have happened if it was a Scottish player at the player and he made a comment about him in a Scottish accent.

I tell you what would have happened...we wouldn't have heard a peep about it.

 

[shack]

I'll bet you're the perfect human being who's never laughed at an off-colour joke in your entire life.
BTW you Lefties always preach we shouldnt stereotype other races or groups of people, and here you are doing that exact same thing about right-wingers.

1)This is not about me.
2)Even if it was, I was never a broadcast professional.
3)I am stereotyping a political ideology (And I am correct. Racist comments, ideas and actions are much more prevalent among righties. It is your domain.), which is fair game He stereotyped a race. Not cool.

 

[shack]

I've still yet to hear anyone talk about what would have happened if it was a Scottish player at the player and he made a comment about him in a Scottish accent.

I tell you what would have happened...we wouldn't have heard a peep about it.

Have the Scots had their land taken and been marginalized in the US by white Americans?

Try another example.

 

[shack]

The fact of the matter is Morris comes from a generation where throwing ethnic jokes around without any regard was common place.

Which means that it is OK for him to be completely oblivious to what is happening in society all around him? I come from a similar generation and I am well aware of what is considered acceptable nowadays. Trying to use age as an excuse is about as lame as it can get.

I thought his apology on air was sufficient apparently the SJW's don't.

Of course you did, you are a rightie.

As I said to Phil, another rightie: (Coincidence? I think not.)

3)I am stereotyping a political ideology (And I am correct. Racist comments, ideas and actions are much more prevalent among righties. It is your domain.), which is fair game.

 

[black booty lover]

Have the Scots had their land taken and been marginalized in the US by white Americans?

Try another example.

Have the Japanese?

 

[The Oracle]

Which means that it is OK for him to be completely oblivious to what is happening in society all around him? I come from a similar generation and I am well aware of what is considered acceptable nowadays. Trying to use age as an excuse is about as lame as it can get.

You miss my point. It's not an excuse it's the fact that he hasn't adapted.

 

[shack]

Have the Japanese?

Ask the ones who were placed in internment camps in WWII and had their possessions confiscated.

 

[shack]

So two countries at work 80 years ago, is your best justification for why it's okay to imitate a Scottish person but it's racist morally wrong if it's another race?

Actors use accents of people from many countries. It's not a problem. Do you agree?

In 1961 when Mickey Rooney, a Cauasian, played Mr. Yunioshi, a Japanese man, in the Academy Award winning movie Breakfast at Tiffany's, it was also not a problem.

Please indulge me for the sake of our discussion and take 4 minutes of your life to watch this clip from the movie and tell me whether or not you'd consider this appropriate.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

1)This is not about me

This is not about right-wingers either, except you turned the debate into that with post #58.
BTW do you have any evidence Jack Morris is a Democrat or a Republican??

3)I am stereotyping a political ideology (And I am correct. Racist comments, ideas and actions are much more prevalent among righties. It is your domain.), which is fair game He stereotyped a race. Not cool

Do you have any studies to back this up??
I did a quick google search and this is all I could come up with: https://www.jstor.org/stable/3791188

 

[Malibuk]

It was a stupid attempt to be funny.
There was no racist intent.
He deserved to be fired for being an ignorant idiot, not a racist.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Ask the ones who were placed in internment camps in WWII and had their possessions confiscated

Did Jack Morris refer to those internment camps when he made his "joke" on the air??

 

[shack]

This is not about right-wingers either, except you turned the debate into that with post #58.
BTW do you have any evidence Jack Morris is a Democrat or a Republican??


Do you have any studies to back this up??
I did a quick google search and this is all I could come up with: https://www.jstor.org/stable/3791188

I do not know what he is. I was commenting on his defenders.

You and Oracle are righties and you are the ones defending him with, "it was just a slip of the tongue", which I've shown it was more than that, and "he's from another generation". No excuse is lame enough to use. I have no data, but it is pretty clear that in the southern states that vote GoP, there is also more racism. Righties tend to have less problems with antics like Morris'. Why would that be?

As Malibuk said, he may not be racist, but his comment was and for a broadcaster to do that on air makes him an idiot and deserves to be fired. An unbiased person cannot argue against that.

 

[shack]

Did Jack Morris refer to those internment camps when he made his "joke" on the air??

Does a person have to mention slavery to say something racist about blacks?

 

[mrjonwho]

Just seems like common sense that you shouldn't make fun of someone else's accent.

 

[Ref]

Just seems like common sense that you shouldn't make fun of someone else's accent.

Would that include English, Scottish, Australian, Southern US, etc. accents as well?

 

[The Oracle]

Would that include English, Scottish, Australian, Southern US, etc. accents as well?

No those groups were never marginalized..

Therefore it's open season!

 

[Don Draper]

Actors use accents of people from many countries. It's not a problem. Do you agree?

In 1961 when Mickey Rooney, a Cauasian, played Mr. Yunioshi, a Japanese man, in the Academy Award winning movie Breakfast at Tiffany's, it was also not a problem.

Please indulge me for the sake of our discussion and take 4 minutes of your life to watch this clip from the movie and tell me whether or not you'd consider this appropriate.

For a very long time, Hollywood just mistakenly didn't think that an Asian or Brown actor could play an Asian or Brown character. Often leading to performances offensive at worst and downright tasteless at best.

Once into the 2000s, more tangible actions came from outcries about the portrayal in Breakfast At Tiffany’s. In 2008, the film was swapped out for Ratatouille at an outdoor screening event in Sacramento after protests loomed large.

In 2011, Brooklyn’s “Movies with a View” series faced similar protests but decided to take a different approach. The film was still shown, but before it began the organizers spoke to the crowd, acknowledging the protestor’s views. They also screened a documentary about Mr. Yunioshi and the portrayal of Asian Americans in other movies, which was taken from a DVD extra released for a special anniversary edition of the film.

Mickey Rooney, who passed away in 2014, has expressed both regret and confusion about the role. He told The Desert News that if he would have known people would have been offended that he wouldn’t have done it.