Its offical : Transphobia is here to stay!
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The watchful waiting model
The “watchful waiting” model was designed by the members of the interdisciplinary team at the Amsterdam Center of Expertise on Gender Dysphoria, VU University Medical Center, under the leadership of Dr Peggy Cohen-Kettenis. Borrowing from the medical use of GnRH agonists for children exhibiting precocious puberty, the Netherlands team is responsible for introducing the use of puberty blockers for gender purposes, to put a pause on pubertal growth and allow more time for a youth to explore their gender and consolidate their adolescent gender identity, with the future possibility of cross-sex hormone therapy to align their bodies with their affirmed gender identity. In contrast to the live in your own skin approach, a young child’s demonstration of gender nonconformity, be it in identity, expressions, or both, is not to be manipulated in any way, but observed over time. If a child’s cross-gender identifications and affirmations are persistent over time, interventions are made available for a child to consolidate a transgender identity, once it is assessed, through therapeutic intervention and psychometric assessment, as in the best interests of the child. These interventions include social transitions (the shift from one gender to another, including possible name change, gender marker change, and gender pronoun changes), puberty blockers, and later hormones and possible gender-affirming surgeries. No attempts are made to alter a child’s gender identity or expressions; yet it is postulated in this model that it would be better to hold off until puberty on any social transitions of a child from one gender to another, and instead give them safe spaces to fully express their gender as they prefer before facilitating any full gender transitions.18,19 The rationale for holding off on any social transitions until adolescence is not to ward off a transgender identity but rather that 1) it would be advantageous that a child experiences the first stages of physical puberty for that child to best make a determination of the gender that feels most authentic to him/her; 2) given developmental stages of childhood, facilitating a social transition from one gender to another at a young age may create a form of cognitive constriction – the child may be prematurely blocked from considering any other possibilities once moved into a cross-gender status and socially constricted from further childhood gender exploration because now they know the cross-gender identity is what everyone has come to expect from them; 3) socially transitioning a child at a very young age may preclude the child from maintaining a realistic understanding of their body and historical status – as a penis-bodied (once a boy) or a vagina-bodied (once a girl) person. In informing their practices, this model, like the live in your own skin model, relies on the data gathered about “persisters” and “desisters”, both at their own clinic in the Netherlands and in other international studies, particularly those conducted at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (CAMH) gender program in Toronto. In the most recent review of these studies, it was found that 63% of the children seeking services at a gender clinic at a young age, and diagnosed with gender dysphoria, no longer had that diagnosis at puberty, while 37% did have the diagnosis consistently from early childhood to adolescence.20 Since a large majority of gender nonconforming young children seeking services at gender clinics desist in their gender dysphoria by adolescence, best practices would be to wait and see if the child persists into adolescence before making any significant changes in a child’s gender identity.
During the preadolescent waiting period, the children are followed carefully by the clinical team in the watchful waiting model, with the support of outside therapists in the community (which is required before a child can receive medical services), to assure that the children are growing well and getting their emotional needs met, and in preparation for later transitioning and medical interventions if the child proves to be a good candidate. Like in the live in your own skin model, the children going through the program also receive a full battery of psychological tests, documenting not only their gender status but also their cognitive–social–emotional functioning. Some of these instruments are delivered to the children directly, some to their parents or teachers.
If the mother asking for help with her 4-year-old were to attend the Amsterdam clinic with her child, the team might do an assessment and advise that the 4-year-old be followed over time, with the understanding that if her son’s declarations of wanting to be a girl persisted over time and if he continued to be drawn only to “girl” toys and activities, consideration of puberty blockers to buy more time to explore gender could certainly happen later, but for now it would be best to let her son continue to be a son free to explore whatever activities he enjoyed, with no corrections on his expressed desire to be a girl.
Gender nonconforming youth: current perspectives - PMC
Beginning with a case vignette, a discussion follows of the reformulation of theories of gender development taking into consideration the recent upsurge of gender nonconforming and transgender youth presenting for gender services and also in the ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Watchful waiting doesn’t mean no puberty blockers: Anti-trans researchers misrepresent academic…
In the latest issue of the American Journal of Bioethics, a peer commentary by Michael Laidlaw, Michelle Cretella, and G. Kevin Donovan…
As I apprehend "watchful waiting" and the "Dutch model" from the 2 above articles, hormone therapy and gender choice reinforcement are simply delayed to 12 years old. Correct me if I am wrong.
That's a real winner - a professional anti vaxx, extreme right performance artist.
Mitchy, few doctors agree with you. From what I can see, all professional bodies agree that gender dysphoria is real.
You might as well recite other rightie garbage like "COVID is a hoax created in a lab by George Soros." No reputable doctor believes that.
But the medical community doesn't agree with you. You also claimed that the vaccines were a hoax, IIRC.
You're the same dude who cheered on the violent anti vaxx rioters in Australia and said that they were "freedom fighters" when they attacked and beat police and reporters.
Mitcy, he provoked them and the assault was minor from a person far smaller and weaker than him. Grow up.
She / he did. But the assault was provoked by Chris standing there with his sign and creating tension. The assault was minor.
The female cop was dead-on correct that this was Chris's fault.
You can't provoke people like Chris did and expect the cops to protect you from a minor push / shove. The cops aren't going to do it. Chris was there, following trans people around, taunting them and creating tension and filming the reaction. This is a standard rightie pattern of behaviour. Create a crisis by provoking bystanders or authority and when the consequences happen, claim to be a "victim".
You've given several examples of exactly this in the last 2 or 3 days. You're so dense that you don't see the pattern or the strategy.
So, Mitchy. Assuming that I agree that medical profit partially drives the transition of children - and I agree that's probably true - what solution do you propose for gender dysphoric early adolescents?
The vast majority of medical associations appear to agree that gender dysphoria is real and therefore should be medically cared for. So what do you propose?
Except I don't see anywhere that gender reassignment surgery is performed on adolescents.
He's actually trying to annoy people who are predisposed to dislike him and then film their reactions to him for his own self-aggrandizement.
Yes, this Sebastian Gorka. Very "credible" source for the likes of Mitchell!!
Sebastian Gorka faced arrest in Hungary while working as Trump adviser
Hungarian police had an arrest warrant open for Sebastian Gorka during the eight months he spent as a national security aide to President Donald Trump.
Once again this is nothing about "hurting children"!!
It is about preventing this sad statistics among transgenders:
Suicidality Among Transgender Youth: Elucidating the Role of Interpersonal Risk Factors - PubMed
Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered killing themselves and 40% have attempted suicide, with suicidality highest among transgender youth. Using minority stress theory and the interpersonal theory of suicide, this study aims to better understand suicide risk among...
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Yes high suicide and attempted suicides among transgenders. You should be thankful that the suicide rates are being addressed, after all how would you keep up with your hobbyist activity otherwise with fewer of these transexual individuals available?
How are the suicides being addressed, pray tell?Once again this is nothing about "hurting children"!!
It is about preventing this sad statistics among transgenders:
Suicidality Among Transgender Youth: Elucidating the Role of Interpersonal Risk Factors - PubMed
Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered killing themselves and 40% have attempted suicide, with suicidality highest among transgender youth. Using minority stress theory and the interpersonal theory of suicide, this study aims to better understand suicide risk among...
Yes high suicide and attempted suicides among transgenders. You should be thankful that the suicide rates are being addressed, after all how would you keep up with your hobbyist activity otherwise with fewer of these transexual individuals available?
Well if the transphobia in this Thread was a carbon copy of what is taught in schools then expect the suicide rates to be even higher among children who are identifying themselves as transgenders. They should be made to be comfortable with their genders rather than some of the trans bashing in this thread. That transphobic dude is given a hero's status on this Board as well as with the likes of the far right Fox Lies Network!!
ROTFLMFAO!!! It has nothing to do with your fear of Fox and everything to do with the age of transition- the younger, the more likely to end up offing/hurting him/her self. You're pulling talking points out of your ass without realizing the harm you're causing. Just stop, take a break and educate yourself. Don't be a party to damaging the most vulnerable among us.
You are just posting all the BS from the far right and Fundamental websites that have a hatred for the existence of these individuals. The respectable sources want these transgender children to be more inclusive in their classes rather than mocked and teased in schools. Coming from a hypocrite like you who visits these transgender for your hobbyist activities and then throwing your support behind those who are vilifying them in this thread is really awful!!
Your sentence makes zero sense. Expected from a far right individual like you!!
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