Its offical : Transphobia is here to stay!

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basketcase

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....but you can get Lupron (puberty blocker - hormone therapy if you wish) without a doctor seeing you for a diagnosis.
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Hmm. That letter you posted talks about an informed consent form. Last I checked, docs don't tend to allow 10 year olds to make consent for themselves. Thanks for proving what I said.
 

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Hmm. That letter you posted talks about an informed consent form. Last I checked, docs don't tend to allow 10 year olds to make consent for themselves. Thanks for proving what I said.
...and yet they have access to Lupron without seeing a doctor. There isn't "allow" going on. The true scandal is prescription without seeing the patient which is a BIG no no. So yes, they didn't consent themselves but Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy is still a 'delight' to see.
 
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jcpro

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Glad Canada severely restricts handguns was well.
The point is, the fixation on a "scary" rifle is for the purpose of politics, not saving lives or even looking far a meaningful solution.
 

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Holy shit!
Someone is taking Ray Blanchard seriously in 2023?
Fucking unreal.
Ya, ad hominin, the last resort of the clueless.
But kudos for recognizing the name. On this forum, most are even more clueless and are content with their mental masturbation of "I'm so kind".

Crazy how we've gone from 2020 "Trust the Experts" to 2023 "Who"? It's always about "Trust the science" right?
According to Google Scholar, Blanchard's works have been cited more than 14,000 times and he has an h-index of 65. You have accomplished what exactly? Feel free to share your expertise.
 

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Let's get the real facts regarding how the transgenders have been targeted and are mainly the victims. Obviously, the far right keep on coming up with Conspiracy Theories and fake news that target these transgenders!!

Report: At least 32 transgender people killed in US in 2022

At least 32 transgender and gender-nonconforming people have been killed in the United States in 2022, the Human Rights Campaign announced Wednesday in its annual report ahead of the Transgender Day of Remembrance.

Transgender people of color account for 81% of known victims this year, and 59% were Black. Trans women are disproportionately represented, as they have been in years past, also comprising 81% of the deaths recorded at the time of publication.

The Human Rights Campaign has documented at least 302 violent deaths of transgender and gender-nonconforming people since the LGBTQ advocacy organization began tracking such fatalities in 2013 — the same year the FBI began tracking hate crimes against transgender people.

The victims have been “overwhelmingly Black, under 35 and killed with a firearm,” the report states.

Black transgender women, such as Shawmaynè Giselle Marie, a 27-year-old nursing assistant killed in June in Gulfport, Mississippi, comprise 63% of all recorded victims since 2013.

This week is Transgender Awareness Week and leads into Sunday’s Transgender Day of Remembrance, an international observance honoring those killed by anti-transgender violence and drawing attention to the threats trans people face
https://apnews.com/article/kamala-h...zania-zambia-a17d6d9a4c409d79e429d2a6494fe23c
The Human Rights Campaign notes that the number of fatalities is likely an undercount because the deaths of trans people often go unreported or the victims are misgendered in news or police reports. The data does not encompass those who died by suicide, which has also been documented at significantly higher rates among LGBTQ people than in the general population.

The report found that 15 trans people have been killed by police or while incarcerated in jails, prisons or ICE detention centers since 2013, including two this year.

Other victims were killed by a person they knew. Since 2013, nearly one-fifth of those whose killer is known were killed by an intimate partner.

Among them is Ray Muscat, 26, who was fatally shot by his girlfriend in May in Michigan.

Fewer deaths have been reported than at the time of the publication of last year’s report — 47. In 2021, the Human Rights Campaign recorded its highest total of fatal violence against trans and gender-nonconforming people, with 57 deaths by the year’s end.

Shoshana Goldberg, public education and research director for the HRC Foundation, said this year’s report comes amid the largest recorded wave of anti-trans legislation at the state level, which she said has largely been fueled by disinformation and stigma.

Some bills sought to limit discussion of LGBTQ topics in schools, restrict gender-affirming health care, and prevent transgender children from playing on sports teams or using bathrooms that align with their gender identities.

Such bills, she said, fuel anti-LGBTQ sentiment by painting queer and transgender people as a risk to children and communities.

States have enacted 25 anti-LGBTQ bills so far this year, including 17 directed at transgender people, according to the report. More than 145 anti-transgender bills have been introduced across 34 states, marking the largest number recorded by the Human Rights Campaign in a state legislative session.

Although the bills do not directly encourage violence against LGBTQ people, Goldberg said, they enforce a culture of bias that is often exacerbated by racism and sexism and can lead to an increased risk of fatal violence.

“This year saw unprecedented amounts of negative rhetoric and stigma aimed by anti-equality political leaders and public figures at transgender and nonbinary people, as well as their families, loved ones and even their medical providers,” Goldberg said. “You can’t separate that from the horrific, ongoing violence against transgender people.”

An estimated 1.6 million people in the U.S. 13 and older identify as transgender, according to the Williams Institute, a think tank focused on LGBTQ issues at the University of California, Los Angeles.

 

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I think the conservatives are so angry about trans and sex change juveniles because it takes so many young boys off the market. They don't call GOPee the pedo party for nothing.
 

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Interesting revisionist history. The US included the 2nd because they were worried about King George coming back and wanted to pass the cost of arming militias onto the individual.
Nah.
The Second Amendment was never about the individual right to bear arms.
That's something the NRA made up and lobbied for over 50 years starting in the 70s.

It was about fear of a standing army and the States being worried that the Federal government would disband their ability to run their own militias and raise their own armies.
(Especially since state militias were important for keeping slaves under control.)
 

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Ya, ad hominin, the last resort of the clueless.
But kudos for recognizing the name. On this forum, most are even more clueless and are content with their mental masturbation of "I'm so kind".

Crazy how we've gone from 2020 "Trust the Experts" to 2023 "Who"? It's always about "Trust the science" right?
According to Google Scholar, Blanchard's works have been cited more than 14,000 times and he has an h-index of 65. You have accomplished what exactly? Feel free to share your expertise.
Oh honey.
I'm not competing with Blanchard for citation index.

I'm saying Blanchard's "autogynephelia" is an old theory that was reasonably plausible back in 89 when he proposed it and simply hasn't held up under follow up research.
It is however, useful to certain types of attacks on people who are transgender, so I guess I shouldn't be that surprised to see it surface in 2023.
 

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I had a long conversation with a member of my family and the trans issue came up. Why am I mentioning it? Well, she happens to be a retired shrink with a lifetime of clinical experience. She was highly amused about the whole trans hoopla in North America. She was even more amused about all the opposition. She said that the best way forward is to let it happen...because it's a problem with it's own built in solution. Wtf?- I wondered. And she pointed to the suicide and drug abuse stats for those between 14-35 years olds with gender dysphoria, meaning that in 10-15 years the problem will simply resolve itself.
 
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The Second Amendment was never about the individual right to bear arms.
That's something the NRA made up and lobbied for over 50 years starting in the 70s.
and so successfully! if they pushed bicycles on people with the same vigor, Muricans would be the healthiest nation on Earth.
 

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Interesting how this works. There is a chorus screaming "transphobia" as a result of a trany committing mass murder. Bizarre doesn't begin to cover it. On the other hand, if you're trans and willing to murder children, perhaps the trans phobia is justified?
 

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Interesting how this works. There is a chorus screaming "transphobia" as a result of a trany committing mass murder. Bizarre doesn't begin to cover it. On the other hand, if you're trans and willing to murder children, perhaps the trans phobia is justified?
The interesting thing to me is, how people are complaining about how this shooting will be politicized to discriminate a group of people (trans) while politicizing every other shooting to discriminate against another group of people (lawful gun owners).

Oh the irony...and hypocrisy.
 

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Oh honey.
I'm not competing with Blanchard for citation index.

I'm saying Blanchard's "autogynephelia" is an old theory that was reasonably plausible back in 89 when he proposed it and simply hasn't held up under follow up research.
It is however, useful to certain types of attacks on people who are transgender, so I guess I shouldn't be that surprised to see it surface in 2023.
Oh muffin, you're competing for credibility which your ad hominin lacks.

You really don't think AGP is a thing for a lot of Trans-identified-men? :rolleyes: Based on what? The science of your feelings?

AGP is opposed by TRAs and Trans Identified Men solely because if agreed to be true & correct, then being a Transwoman is no longer an 'identity', or a clinical or a political issue but now a sexual paraphilia that they are forcing everyone to participate in.

Paradoxically, the efforts of trans activists to completely suppress any mention of autogynephilia in public discourse has resulted in an increased public awareness of it. I think the self-defeating behavior of trans activists has persisted because the idea of autogynephilia cuts too close to the bone.
 

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It's disgusting how those men suffering from gender dysphoria physically assaulted that innocent man, especially with all of those police around.
You should see how many treat women...weird how it took another man to settle things down.

 
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Oh muffin, you're competing for credibility which your ad hominin lacks.

You really don't think AGP is a thing for a lot of Trans-identified-men? :rolleyes: Based on what? The science of your feelings?

AGP is opposed by TRAs and Trans Identified Men solely because if agreed to be true & correct, then being a Transwoman is no longer an 'identity', or a clinical or a political issue but now a sexual paraphilia that they are forcing everyone to participate in.

Paradoxically, the efforts of trans activists to completely suppress any mention of autogynephilia in public discourse has resulted in an increased public awareness of it. I think the self-defeating behavior of trans activists has persisted because the idea of autogynephilia cuts too close to the bone.
Got it, you've read a bunch of activist pamphlets and never any of the scientific debate on the issue.

To the point where you are going with "Them trying to suppress his research has only made it stronger!" tactic that all pseudo-science hacks love so much.

Not sure why you're trying to bury your credibility even further, but enjoy!
 
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Got it, you've read a bunch of activist pamphlets and never any of the scientific debate on the issue.

To the point where you are going with "Them trying to suppress his research has only made it stronger!" tactic that all pseudo-science hacks love so much.

Not sure why you're trying to bury your credibility even further, but enjoy!
Streisand effect - - yes, yes, pseudo-science 'hacks'.
The Streisand effect is the way in which attempts to hide, remove, or censor information can lead to the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information. It is named after American singer and actress Barbra Streisand, whose attempt to suppress the California Coastal Records Project's photograph of her cliff-top residence in Malibu, California, taken to document California coastal erosion, inadvertently drew greater attention to the photograph in 2003.



Oh sugar, which "Activists" pamphlets have I read? Blanchford, UofT, PhD, Chair of DSM-5 paraphilia and more?

I notice that you fail to quote or make reference to anything. I wonder why? I know...you're self edumacated right? You have your own science?

Here, have fun with Zucker. Given your tendency to lash out against those you disagree with using pure made-up one-off statements, this should be fun!

But wait, these are peer-reviewed scientific papers. Huh, what, you don't trust the science unless it's convenient?

One study showed that, without social transition, nearly two-thirds of pre-teen gender-dysphoric males grow up to be gay or bisexual.
A University of Toronto study found that 63.6% of boys with early onset gender dysphoria, who received ‘watchful waiting’ treatment and no pre-pubertal social transition, grew up to be gay or bisexual.
Only 12% of the study participants continued to identify as transfeminine.
This would infer that Watchful Waiting is a FAR, FAR superior model than Affirmation right?

Singh, D., Bradley, S.J. & Zucker, K.J. (2021). A Follow-Up Study of Boys With Gender Identity Disorder. Frontiers in Psychology

After sex reassignment surgery, one study showed that adult transsexual clients were 4.9 times more likely to have made a suicide attempt and 19.1 times more likely to have died from suicide, after adjusting for prior psychiatric comorbidity
Zucker, K.J., Lawrence, A.A., Kreukels, B.P. (2016). Gender Dysphoria in Adults. Annu Rev Clin Psychol.


How about I continue with Littman, another well-recognized researcher who is also well published in peer-reviewed scientific journals hmmmmm? She seems to have documented the homophobia running rampant in the Gender Identity circles.
After Littman, you know who I'm going to come with.

How about evidence? Nah.

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Streisand effect - - yes, yes, pseudo-science 'hacks'.
The Streisand effect is the way in which attempts to hide, remove, or censor information can lead to the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information. It is named after American singer and actress Barbra Streisand, whose attempt to suppress the California Coastal Records Project's photograph of her cliff-top residence in Malibu, California, taken to document California coastal erosion, inadvertently drew greater attention to the photograph in 2003.



Oh sugar, which "Activists" pamphlets have I read? Blanchford, UofT, PhD, Chair of DSM-5 paraphilia and more?

I notice that you fail to quote or make reference to anything. I wonder why? I know...you're self edumacated right? You have your own science?

Here, have fun with Zucker. Given your tendency to lash out against those you disagree with using pure made-up one-off statements, this should be fun!

But wait, these are peer-reviewed scientific papers. Huh, what, you don't trust the science unless it's convenient?

One study showed that, without social transition, nearly two-thirds of pre-teen gender-dysphoric males grow up to be gay or bisexual.
A University of Toronto study found that 63.6% of boys with early onset gender dysphoria, who received ‘watchful waiting’ treatment and no pre-pubertal social transition, grew up to be gay or bisexual.
Only 12% of the study participants continued to identify as transfeminine.
This would infer that Watchful Waiting is a FAR, FAR superior model than Affirmation right?

Singh, D., Bradley, S.J. & Zucker, K.J. (2021). A Follow-Up Study of Boys With Gender Identity Disorder. Frontiers in Psychology

After sex reassignment surgery, one study showed that adult transsexual clients were 4.9 times more likely to have made a suicide attempt and 19.1 times more likely to have died from suicide, after adjusting for prior psychiatric comorbidity
Zucker, K.J., Lawrence, A.A., Kreukels, B.P. (2016). Gender Dysphoria in Adults. Annu Rev Clin Psychol.


How about I continue with Littman, another well-recognized researcher who is also well published in peer-reviewed scientific journals hmmmmm? She seems to have documented the homophobia running rampant in the Gender Identity circles.
After Littman, you know who I'm going to come with.

How about evidence? Nah.

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That's a good post that describes what is widely known and acknowledged in the psychiatry field on abnormal sexuality. It seems, though that the spinners around the trans issue are completely divorcing themselves from the actual and conclusive research in favor of politics and feelings. The price that this generation of the gender dysphoric kids will pay will be enormous and tragic.
 
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