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Frankfooter

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No mention of Oct. 7

You did not answer my question. You really can't say that you denounce that attack. Actually you support it and by association you support Israel's retaliation on the Gazan people that you knew was coming.
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You are intent on trying to blame Palestinians for the occupation, apartheid, death camp and genocide.
That is all on Israel, its Israel's choice just as its your choice to ignore Never Again and support genocide.

This game you want to play to try to make yourself feel morally superior or justify your support of death camps is pathetic.

What do you think you are teaching the 50% of Gaza who are children?

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dirtyharry555 said:
This is also partly why the US military is having a recruitment crisis. Citizens have come to realize that they're being sent overseas to fight wars for everyone else while their own country is allowed to be overrun by illegals, addicts, and poverty. They know that the mainstream media is just an arm of the government that lies to them 24/7.

The US won't recover from its dishonesty and disloyalty to its people. The end of the empire is near.
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War is the US bread and butter...this is the time they showcase new weapons. it's a trillion $$$ industry....
Remember during the gulf war when they showcased
the patriot missiles
and
Abrams tank...every country with a threat wanted those

...they also able to showcase old aircraft that hasn't been war tested like the Fairchild "warthog" thunderbolt...it's basically made to kill Russian tanks...
 
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richaceg said:
Should Israel just go in...fly in and starts killing civilians - "Hamas style"....
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That's what they are doing right now.
That's what they did in 2014 and 2021.
Will hit help?

There is no Hamas in the West Bank.
So what happened there?

233 settler terrorist attacks against Palestinians.

Has any Israeli supporter here called Israel terrorists for aiding a campaign of 233 terrorist attacks?
That's 233 more terrorist attacks than by Hamas up until Oct.
 
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Frankfooter said:
There is no Hamas in the West Bank.
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www.theglobeandmail.com

Hamas political leader in West Bank says he believes some hostages could be released if Israel agrees to ceasefire

Sheik Hassan Yousef said Hamas has no interest in keeping women and children hostage, and would likely be willing to release them if Israel agreed to a 24-hour break to allow humanitarian aid to enter
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Hamas political leader in West Bank says he believes some hostages could be released if Israel agrees to ceasefire
 
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richaceg said:
So why does Hamas want to rid earth of Jews?
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Why are Israel supporters accusing Palestinians of genocidal intent to justify committing genocide?

Why has Israel already bombed 5 hospitals, putting them out of commission?

‘There are already five hospitals out of service’

From Hani Abu Isheba, reporting from Khan Younis
There are already five hospitals out of service, we’re talking about entire buildings and facilities turning into graveyards because they’re not functioning or operating correctly.
As we spoke, a massive explosion was heard near the hospital. The target was a residential home in the al-Amal neighbourhood in Khan Younis.
Five people were reported killed on the spot. Three were children under the age of five with a further 35 people injured.
The al-Amal hospital is running out of essentials and pushing a critical emergency schedule of one hour on and one hour off to sustain whatever is left of the fuel to keep one generator running.

Why is the IDF threatening to bomb 22 hospitals?

In total, at least 22 hospitals have received Israeli threats since 7 October. Here is a list of hospitals in areas ordered by the military to clear out, in addition to two hospitals that received similar warnings in the south.

 
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Frankfooter said:
Why are Israel supporters accusing Palestinians of genocidal intent to justify committing genocide?

Why has Israel already bombed 5 hospitals, putting them out of commission?

‘There are already five hospitals out of service’
From Hani Abu Isheba, reporting from Khan Younis
There are already five hospitals out of service, we’re talking about entire buildings and facilities turning into graveyards because they’re not functioning or operating correctly.
As we spoke, a massive explosion was heard near the hospital. The target was a residential home in the al-Amal neighbourhood in Khan Younis.
Five people were reported killed on the spot. Three were children under the age of five with a further 35 people injured.
The al-Amal hospital is running out of essentials and pushing a critical emergency schedule of one hour on and one hour off to sustain whatever is left of the fuel to keep one generator running.
Why is the IDF threatening to bomb 22 hospitals?

In total, at least 22 hospitals have received Israeli threats since 7 October. Here is a list of hospitals in areas ordered by the military to clear out, in addition to two hospitals that received similar warnings in the south.
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Hamas don't want civilians to leave Gaza...they are commiting the atrocities you're claiming against Israel...and it will not stop here until Hamas is gone...or any terrorists group who hate jews...
 
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How do you make peace with people who want to destroy you??
I read that Hamas (and PLO) have rejected 5 peace proposals in last 60 years.
Clearly they dont want peace
 
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Don't fault for this Pierre Poilievre, he a clown too , he just talking trash that he do better than Trudeau. It all just lies
 
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Not getting younger said:
So why are you cherry picking where you want to start from. While we could likely go back further. I think most people could accept 1949.

And why are you conveniently omitting multiple peace agreements broken by Arabs and in particular Hamas.

You seem to support their justification for terrorism, and you seem to think, Israel should just capitulate. Which ultimately will just enable all extremism and encourage all extremist and terrorist in the world. Volence wins, the ends justify the means. And is the path to getting what you want.


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Arab-Israeli wars | History, Conflict, Causes, Summary, & Facts
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If the Jews in Nazi camps rose up and butchered and gouged their way out of those camps, would you have a problem with that?
So, did they not use violence because they didn't have the ability and resources, or did they not use violence because they didn't see violence as a legitimate means to escaping their degradation and ultimate death.
Which one was it?
 
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mellowjello said:
If the Jews in Nazi camps rose up and butchered and gouged their way out of those camps, would you have a problem with that?
So, did they not use violence because they didn't have the ability and resources, or did they not use violence because they didn't see violence as a legitimate means to escaping their degradation and ultimate death.
Which one was it?
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So go read the long history. But let’s play your silly comparison game.

3 times the Nazis agree to peace, and settlements. 3 times Jews detonate bombs in Berlin…………………
 
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Not getting younger said:
So go read the long history. But let’s play your silly comparison game.

3 times the Nazis agree to peace, and settlements. 3 times Jews detonate bombs in Berlin…………………
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Not getting younger said:
So go read the long history. But let’s play your silly comparison game.

3 times the Nazis agree to peace, and settlements. 3 times Jews detonate bombs in Berlin…………………
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Yea, agree to peace as they're stealing their land and evicting people from their homes under Israeli military protection. Tell me all about it.
You're more concerned about some Ukrainian guy joining a Nazi outfit to fight the Russians, right. You and the Israeli administration see them as subhuman, the way the Nazis saw Jews as subhuman. And both striving for the final solution.
 
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Yea, agree to peace as they're stealing their land and evicting people from their homes under Israeli military protection. Tell me all about it.
You're more concerned about some Ukrainian guy joining a Nazi outfit to fight the Russians, right. You and the Israeli administration see them as subhuman, the way the Nazis saw Jews as subhuman. And both striving for the final solution.
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You obviously haven’t read the history or agreements
 
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Not getting younger said:
You obviously haven’t read the history or agreements
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This coming from someone who just deliberately mis identified a quote he used in his reply?

Its been 54 years of military occupation.
There has been no peace settlement ever.
Only more settler colonization of Palestine.

This is Gaza right now, where 50% of the population are children.

 
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Not getting younger said:
Klattuu has an even duller pencil, which he uses to try and re-write history. However his eraser is almost gone having been used to heavily wash his brain.


Occupation
After rule by the Ottoman Empire ended there in World War I (1914–18), the Gaza area became part of the League of Nationsmandate of Palestine under British rule. Before this mandate ended, the General Assembly of the United Nations (UN) in November 1947 accepted a plan for the Arab-Jewish partition of Palestine under which the town of Gaza and an area of surrounding territory were to be allotted to the Arabs. The British mandate ended on May 15, 1948, and on that same day the first Arab-Israeli war began. Egyptianforces soon entered the town of Gaza, which became the headquarters of the Egyptian expeditionary force in Palestine. As a result of heavy fighting in autumn 1948, the area around the town under Araboccupation was reduced to a strip of territory 25 miles (40 km) long and 4–5 miles (6–8 km) wide. This area became known as the Gaza Strip. Its boundaries were demarcated in the Egyptian-Israeli armistice agreement of February 24, 1949.

So peace is offered, accepted, and broken, offered and accepted and broken, offered and accepted and broken. By Arabs and Hamas and Palestinians. Nor the fact that even when given what they want, they spill blood.

Poor Klatu neither like history, or beds made, and consequences.
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Thanks for that history lesson. So Israel neither took nor stole anything. All they did was fight to protect what was given to them according to international law and convention.

I'm sure that frank and Little Buddy will now understand.
 
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