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Not getting younger

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France is one of the most racist and Islamaphobic countries in the world. I mean I have generally heard that Parisians don't even treat tourists well and are very rude if you cannot speak French (I heard Quebec City is the same. What is with the French 😂 ). They seem to be a bunch of assholes. Not that it justifies terrorism or anything, but I can imagine tensions within France what with the riots and everything earlier. I mean even with the teacher who got beheaded, if you considered what the teacher did before he was attacked, he apparently showed cartoon pictures of Prophet Mohammad in class to teach about freedom of speech. Like he could have used any example, but he chose that. Just saying.
So???
Does that change reality and how the real world works? Or does it in fact make it more likely there will reprisals? And further escalation…

Idealism is nice Kautilya. The world and reality bites, and it’s past time the Left realize that.

Sunny days don’t last forever.
 

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Well what I described is the state of the real world in France today. Systemic, cultural and institutional racism towards its Muslim population. If they do not want such incidents to happen again they need to do more to address these issues.
Yeah, France is really racist and horrible. I hate it when they do this to the Muslim population living in Paris.

 

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So???
Does that change reality and how the real world works? Or does it in fact make it more likely there will reprisals? And further escalation…

Idealism is nice Kautilya. The world and reality bites, and it’s past time the Left realize that.

Sunny days don’t last forever.
Sunny days?
(hey Mandrill: photo op!)

 

Not getting younger

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Well what I described is the state of the real world in France today. Systemic, cultural and institutional racism towards its Muslim population. If they do not want such incidents to happen again they need to do more to address these issues.
I won’t argue that. For all the Lefts hopes and prayers for Paris, for all of JTs virtue signaling ,singing kumbuyah and it has no place in Canada, and we can all get along, and force our values on others…. for all the millions of people that change their Facebook profiles to stupid feel good, we stand with France pics.

What’s it changed?

meanwhile, if this keeps going south, interest rates or oil prices take off……we are caught with our pants off and screwed…Debt up to our eyeballs…

oh, just a week ago, many on the Left here were good and cheering JT cutting 1B from the defence budget.

Sunny days
 

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Well what I described is the state of the real world in France today. Systemic, cultural and institutional racism towards its Muslim population. If they do not want such incidents to happen again they need to do more to address these issues.
I don`t know if that would work. Are there terrorist attacks because of the way Muslim`s are treated? Or do the French(by and large) treat them the way they do because of Muslim terrorist attacks? Like running on my treadmill.
 
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But the US funding apartheid to the tune of $3.8 billion in weapons is fine?
You just don't want the indigenous people to be able to defend themselves?

This is from a 24 year old doctor in Gaza, living through his 4th war.

‘I’m starting my day with the first air strike in the morning’: Gaza doctor

Omar Najjar, a 24-year doctor at the Al-Nasser complex in Khan Younis, has described to Al Jazeera a day in the life of medical workers in Gaza:
“I’m starting my day with the first air strike in the morning. We run to the emergency room and we are directly managing the patients. Many times we are asking if those patients are our relatives. Many times we can see our close friends, close members of our family in the emergency room.

“Here in the hospital we have been officially informed by managers … that we will totally run out of electricity completely within 48 hours or maybe less. Everyday I’m going to stitch some patients, I can’t find the stitches, I can’t find the gauze. There are more than 30,000 people who are also taking this hospital as home [shelter], so this also may be a barrier for our work inside the hospital.

“I can’t describe what we are feeling. I have lived here in Gaza for four wars, but this is the worst war. We can’t find minutes or seconds to sit and take a rest. I did not take breakfast or anything, even lunch. So to the whole world: Please stop this war.”
 

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Possibly a combination of both where they feed into each other. But there is objective discrimination in France where these Muslim people live in poor enclaves with not even proper drinking water etc., Those things can be fixed.

There is this book Obama recommended that I read. This lady is a Washington Post and NYT investigative journalist. She talks about how it is in Europe along with terrorism etc. One of the most informative imo.

My understanding too. The immigrant (Black and Brown) population in France is segregated in peripheral cites and actively discriminated against. So they don't assimilate and remain poor, marginal and resentful.
 
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If Israel forcefully evacuates homes and attacks Palestinians I agree that is state terrorism.
Ok, so you've agreed:
Israel is apartheid
Palestinians have a right to self defence
Israelis are also committing terrorism
The occupation is illegal.

Now you have to get over your racism to say why you think the 54 year old occupation, 17 year blockade and apartheid rule aren't the real reasons why there is still violence and why Hamas attacked. Explain why you think the continuing colonization of what could have been Palestine isn't the reason why there is still violence.
 

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Possibly a combination of both where they feed into each other. But there is objective discrimination in France where these Muslim people live in poor enclaves with not even proper drinking water etc., Those things can be fixed.

There is this book Obama recommended that I read. This lady is a Washington Post and NYT investigative journalist. She talks about how it is in Europe along with terrorism etc. One of the most informative imo.

Over the years I recall several Imam`s saying that Islam doesn`t fit into Western culture. As a prayer leader and community leader and guide you would think they would know. Like pushing the square peg into a round hole...it sorta` kinda` fits, but...
 

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My understanding too. The immigrant (Black and Brown) population in France is segregated in peripheral cites and actively discriminated against. So they don't assimilate and remain poor, marginal and resentful.
Now imagine that they took that entire population and put them in a giant prison where there was 54% unemployment, 75% are refugees, 90% of the water is undrinkable and Paris controlled who comes in and out, how much food, water and electricity they got.

And then they bombed them.
 
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