No. I'm proposing a last resort solution because nothing else is going to work.
Israel at war
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The leader of Hamas's military wing, Mohammed Deif, said the assault was in response to the 16-year blockade of Gaza and a series of recent incidents, including more settlements in occupied West Bank, Israeli settler violence and further displacement of Palestinians, that have brought Israeli-Palestinian tensions to a fever pitch.
The blockade, settler terrorism and the occupation of Palestine are the causes.
Not Hamas.
Because they already are de facto doing just that and that's not going to change and it's been 60 years.
That's no fucking excuse for raping, torturing and murdering that sweet, young German girl.
Palestinians are the majority demographic.
You can't kill enough of them to create peace unless you're talking final solution.
You must be listening to different news than me because the deaths reported by Hamas have been all over the news. Israel has been pretty upfront with the civilian vs military deaths but based on past history, the Palestinian numbers are unlikely to make that distinction.
Like in 1949 when Egypt and Jordan stole the Palestinian side of Partition? Shh. The Jew haters don't like talking about that.
Hamas seems pretty murderous to me. You know that they will rampage if they get through the fence. They did it 2 days ago.
Exactly.
The one state, apartheid solution is in place.
The two state solution is dead.
That leaves a South African like campaign to end apartheid as the only viable, non-violent path forward.
True.
There is also no fucking excuse for apartheid and a 75 year occupation.
or this
Even more West Bank Palestinians travel daily into Israel (and I'll bet they currently are despite the conflict with Hamas). You might want to check you info.
When did Mandela launch an invasion that butchered hundreds of civilians or kidnap dozens of old ladies and children?Exactly.
The one state, apartheid solution is in place.
The two state solution is dead.
That leaves a South African like campaign to end apartheid as the only viable, non-violent path forward.
Israel gives them no other option.
In 2018 the people of Gaza protested at the borders.
Israel used snipers and shot them.
The protesters came back the next friday and Israel shot them.
They came back the next Friday and Israel shot them.
This went on for a full year.
Are you saying that their rule by the Ottoman Empire was a lovely homeland? That makes me wonder why so many Arab groups fought to dismantle it.
No other option that butchering 260 concert goers and kidnap old ladies? Holy fuck your justifications for terrorism are sickening.
Israeli Arabs have as much rights as Jewish citizens of Israel except they don't get drafted in the army.
Can you imagine what an advantage it is for your career not to waste 3 years of your youth in the army? I say they got a pretty sweet deal.
South Africa called Mandela a terrorist, as did Canada.
Fortunately sanctions like BDS ended apartheid before it got violent.
Israel and your campaign against boycotts has taken that avenue away, its time to restore it.
Not true, they live under a separate form of apartheid according to the UN, Amnesty, HRW and B'tselem.
They have no right to self determination, no right of return, restrictive marriage laws and multiple other legal differences.
Read the reports.
Only problem is Jordan and Egypt don't want the land (the originally stole) back and ceded control to Israel.
The Two State solution is the obvious idea but the problem is how to get the extremists to accept it. Israel is still a functioning democracy (unless Bibi uses the war as an excuse to push through his authoritarian laws) so public interest will marginalize their extremists but I don't know if there's a way to disarm groups like Hamas and PIJ who state they will accept no final peace that doesn't include them ruling an Islamic state over the entire region.
But Franky is okay with collective punishment of Jewish Israelis.
