Israel at war
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Watching the video of the female soldier with bloodied pants and cuts on her toes (on Reddit) made me lose all sympathy for Palestinians.
I hope Israel does the right thing here, clear out the strip of all civilians (like a 24 hrs warning) and flatten the fuck out of it. Targeting known Hamas targets is not good enough. Do it like Sri Lanka did with the LTTE.
I hope Israel does the right thing here, clear out the strip of all civilians (like a 24 hrs warning) and flatten the fuck out of it. Targeting known Hamas targets is not good enough. Do it like Sri Lanka did with the LTTE.
Bear in mind that all this is designed to trigger a massive, angry, emotional response from Israel and the West, which can then be exploited for propaganda and diplomatic purposes in the Middle East.
My first reaction as well was to say "Nuke 'em! They don't deserve to live!"
But I suspect that is what Hamas is trying to achieve.
Israel needs to permanently remove Hamas from Gaza while attempting to minimize civilian casualties. But easier said than done.
Hamas survives by continuing the hostility and tension between Israel and the Palestinians.
Israel is faced with a number of difficult choices. If they invade, they subject their forces to endless intifada from Hamas, which will then dissolve again into the general population. If they just bomb, they will have no way of identifying Hamas personnel and will simply inflict indiscriminate casualties.
OTOH, the situation demands massive and effective retaliation.
Not sure, but I believe that they have had hostage/prisoner exchanges in the past.
Hard to believe an oil producing country has a GDP of only $300B. It must be quite fucked up.
Not really, the Americans and the British decided that Iran didn't deserve democracy. In 1953 the Iranians were still loyal to the Americans for getting the Soviets out of Tabriz at the Yalta Accord.
Which is exactly why Trump should never be allowed near the White House. Days like this. Arguably ours too.
What happens tomorrow and this week?
Tuesday could potentially suck.
See also Black Monday.
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Great point. Except the Iranians ditched the Shah and picked Khomeini, who was even worse.
More violence won't help.
There were attacks by Israel in 2015, 2018 and 2021 on Gaza and more before then and none created peace.
You can't kill the entire democratically elected Hamas government and police force.
Even if Israel did kill the tens of thousands in Hamas there are still 2 million people living in Gaza who wouldn't just bow their heads and live under an apartheid blockade.
If you want peace Israel needs to deescalate for a change, not kill more people.
End the occupation or end apartheid.
The Palestinian terrorists shot themselves in the foot this time. Most countries have raised the Israeli flag and support Israel. The Brandenburg gate has a huge Israeli flag on it. The Palestinians took pictures of themselves with Israeli hostages, 80 year old Granmas, mothers holding babies and small children, girls, women. Sorry that's uncivilized.
A reminder.
75% of the population of Gaza are refugees.
Half are children.
75% of the population of Gaza are refugees.
Half are children.
According to La Corriere and the BBC, Israel's Good Cop/Bad Cop strategy has failed miserably.
The hardline parties that support Likud, want the restoration of Biblical Israel, the West Bank is part of the restoration, Gaza is not. The Israelis allowed freedom for Gaza's inhabitant to earn a living in Israel, figuring this would mollify Hamas. At the same time the Netanyahu coalition ramped up settlements in the West Bank, then conducted unprovoked raids on West Bank cities. The expeditions were intended to cull terrorists, the bloodiest was in Jenin. In response to the raids, Hamas organized a major attack on Israeli territory. Israel is lucky not to be fighting on two fronts, Hezbollah is pre-occupied guarding Bashar al Assad's worthless ass.
The hardline parties that support Likud, want the restoration of Biblical Israel, the West Bank is part of the restoration, Gaza is not. The Israelis allowed freedom for Gaza's inhabitant to earn a living in Israel, figuring this would mollify Hamas. At the same time the Netanyahu coalition ramped up settlements in the West Bank, then conducted unprovoked raids on West Bank cities. The expeditions were intended to cull terrorists, the bloodiest was in Jenin. In response to the raids, Hamas organized a major attack on Israeli territory. Israel is lucky not to be fighting on two fronts, Hezbollah is pre-occupied guarding Bashar al Assad's worthless ass.
Is that better than this?The Palestinian terrorists shot themselves in the foot this time. Most countries have raised the Israeli flag and support Israel. The Brandenburg gate has a huge Israeli flag on it. The Palestinians took pictures of themselves with Israeli hostages, 80 year old Granmas, mothers holding babies and small children, girls, women. Sorry that's uncivilized.
warning: video of Israelis pissing on Palestinian corpses
The only Countries that support the attack of the Terrorists are other Islamist countries like Iran and of course you and a few others. No excuses for kidnapping elderly babies, women and children. That kind of garbage is not welcome in Canada or any civilized country.
