What race is Islam? Isn't it a religion and therefore a voluntary belief system? You can choose not to be a Muslim right?
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By my reasoning the narratives and attitudes in the west, towards the 3rd world, towards Muslims, towards Palestinians is one of default racism. I am not aware of differences based on race on this subject and have not seen any studies. Your study here does not indicate anything specific to demographics either, so there is not enough information to make a statement on it.
What race is Judaism? Is antisemitism racism? Yes. What is antisemitism? Irrational hatred of Jews or harbouring negative sentiment toward Jews with regard to Judaism.
What is Islamophobia? Irrational hatred of Muslims or harbouring negative sentiments toward Muslims with regard to Islam, or Islam itself.
Both are racist. The fact that you can choose not to be a Muslim or choose not to be a Jew, is irrelevant.
Approximately 75% of America is white.
That means a minimum of 5% who were polled had to be visible minorities (probably a lot more though).
Have you ever thought that maybe 80% of Americans simply believe Israel has the right to defend their homeland from a terrorist organization like Hamas??
And that it has nothing to do with racism??
And even if what you say is true with the 5%, so a minority of visible minorities hold default racist views towards the 3rd world and towards Muslims in general, which is understandable. There are after all black and latino Trump voters for example who hold and subscribe to racist views about immigrants.
These default racist narratives are not directed at Hamas. They are directed at Palestinians.
You seem to be chanting "racism" the loudest in here...and we all know you're woke AF...that said...hows your take on people who hate gays and toss them on top of buildings?
Thats your opinion. Unless you polled every single person of 80% of America you would have no way of knowing that for sure.
So until you do, your opinion means very little, if anything at all
I did not call anyone racist here. I said the narratives concerning Palestinians, Muslims and the 3rd world in general are default racist. How many times have you heard people use the phrase "Palestinians want to genocide the Jews etc"?
And woke? lol. I am no flag waving woke culture warrior amd have not said anything thay even amounts to woke the way you define it.
We do know. It's all over social media and news media and is also reflected in the decision making of the powers that be.
Here listen to this interview of AOC by Mehdi both of you.
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Actually, the vast majority of the western world completely understand the difference between Hamas, who are a terrorist organization and the Palestinian people. It's like saying that blacks conflate the KKK with all white people. It's a fallacious statement with no basis in reality And is used by some Muslims to justify their hate of the Western world and their culture.
What is pathetic is the attempt to perpetuate this racist myth of Israel CONTROLLING the US for a few bucks. That is a trope used by anti-Semites in the same vein as Jews controlling the global banking system, Hollywood, eating babies, being cheap, having hooked noses and having death lasers.
It's patently obvious that the US supports Israel as opposed to being controlled by Israel, because Israel is the greatest ally the US has in the region and is integral to protecting US interests. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think that even you admitted this. You may have added in some mumbo jumbo about Israel having an unfair advantage or whatever, but the truth is that nobody can name another country in the region that is democratic, shares many of the same values as the US and can provide to the US what Israel does to the US. The money spent by lobbyists is a pittance compared to the value that the US assigns to Israeli support in the ME.
Just as apartheid was a S. African invention, its' definition was misappropriated by other non-S. African entities the same way and for the same reasons that the term Zionism is now being misappropriated.
The Jews invented the term Zionism to represent their desire for a Jewish homeland where they could live safely. Saying that the Jews invented Anti-Zionism and is the default Jewish postion is ludicrous. Jews are automatically anti-Zionists? You're saying that Jews wanting a homeland invented a hatred for Jews wanting a homeland. Listen to yourself. What you say is preposterous. Geno thinks that all Jews in Israel are Zionists and now you're saying that the Jews in Israel are almost always anti-Zionists. "Hey Joe. Get more flour because we're running out of pretzels really fast and need to make more."
Anti-Zionism is a creation of Jew haters and anti-Semites and calling them out for being racist is not racist.
You have called plenty of people here racist. You said anyone who supports Israel is racist.
You dont even know what you're saying anymore
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Does it also surprise you that your opinions regarding Jews is a fringe and radical position on TERB?
I didn't know that I was that famous. I always felt that I am an unknown entity to the world at large. If you consider yourself and the rest of your KKK the world, then I'll readily accept that hate.
Actually its more like, holy crap they don't share the same values of free speech, equality of women, human rights that we do.
Seriously we haven't had a war on NA soil since 1814. That's by choice. The ME Muslims have been at perpetual war with eachother and their neighbors. Hasn't stopped. Over religion. That's also a choice.
Just like clockwork when you're losing a debate. Just like Geno is a prefect nickname because it defines the person by the incessant claims of genocide (and hammy is moronically convoluted and unintelligible) I'll try and think of something based on "irrelevant".
The % of the US that is white is 60%. I think we can safely say you are more “asleep “ than “woke”.
| 2021 estimates, including separate category for Latino / Hispanic | |
|---|---|
| White | 59.3% |
| Hispanic and Latino | 18.9% |
| Black | 12.6% |
| Asian | 5.9% |
Race and ethnicity in the United States - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
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If that was the case we'd automatically condemn and call out the genocide that is ongoing in Gaza because that is a clear violation of human rights. Clearly the fact that a genocide does not move people but instead the support is for the perpetrator of the genocide indicates differently.
As I've said before. We have two sides who will never come to the table. Ever. And there is no way I will ever approve of spending blood and treasure to try to get them to see reason. The Palestinians chose Iranian Shia muslims and their allies. Who are hated by all the other Sunni muslims in the region. They chose Terrorism, violence, even support of assassination and coups. And really have just been used as pawns. They are the authors of their own problems.
So feel free to pick a side. Either way one is, in the long run, going to see a winner and a loser. That's how this ends.
You're not including people who identify as white in combination with another race.The % of the US that is white is 60%. I think we can safely say you are more “asleep “ than “woke”.
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2021 estimates, including separate category for Latino / Hispanic White 59.3% Hispanic and Latino 18.9% Black 12.6% Asian 5.9%
Race and ethnicity in the United States - Wikipedia
People who identify as white in combination with another race amount to about 71% of US population:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States
You seem to think anybody that argues with you "hate" muslims. I have tons of Muslim friends and no, I don't try to change or challenge their beliefs...there are good people in the Islam community. The conflict here isn't Palestinians vs. Jews...It's Terrorists vs. Israel...Hamas objective isn't to free the Palestinians...it's to eradicate Israel. You simply can't get everyone get behind you if you target civilians then cry victim when you receive retaliation... Hamas won't solve the Palestinians problems...it magnified it 100x...
