Israel at war
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I think a far better comparison is apartheid South Africa.
Up until 2008 Mandela and the AFC were labelled as terrorists by the US.
Global action, protests and BDS like sanctions were what ended apartheid, that's what finally forced governments to act.
So governments supporting Israel will continue to do so until the votes lost supporting Israel outweigh the cash coming in from AIPAC.
We are likely at that moment now, though the governments don't know it yet.
The one thing to note though, is that the US did not have the kind of relationship with South Africa that they do with Israel. But I agree with the last statement. In the US though, the votes lost might not be so much due to support for Palestine but more due to people not wanting American tax payer money going to Israel. I genuinely hope that day comes. If American support for Israel is weakened, this conflict will come to an end due to international pressure.
That was unclear, read your post.
Butler asked for your solution and you gave the quote.
That makes it look you said turning Gaza into a desert was your solution.
It wasn't far off, same with Canada, the country backed South Africa until it became too unpopular.
We'll see what happens, but the university protests are looking very Vietnam to Gaza's Tet offensive.
It just gets worse and worse for the US every day.
And there is an election coming up.
No, it's more like the American voters don't want all that tax money going to Ukraine, when Ukraine has absolutely no chance of winning the war with Russia!!
Righties have been saying "Ukraine has no chance" since February 2022. Let me know when Ukraine loses, Mitchy?
Two and a half years is a long, long time to "be losing" a war.
While you're at it, read the Russian casualty losses and tell me what model tanks the Russians are driving these days?
No. Nobody else can tell them how they feel. Can I tell you that you support Israel?
You made the claim of 99.99%. As such I am totally justified to question how you arrived at these claims. You have no idea. You pulled them out of your ass. What are your sources?
Actually, you need to back up your claims with statistical facts. I need to know what the facts are, not your fabricated and admittedly anti-Israeli biased claims.
You have no expertise. Are you saying that being forced to cease their protests is not a consequence?
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No one is telling them how to feel. If they "feel intimidated" by the protests, they can continue feeling that way. This is solely their problem and nothing needs to be done about it.
Absolutely no statistics, or analysis paralysis is needed to make these claims.
Are the vast majority of protests allowed? Yes.
Have any protests been shut down? Most likely no. If at all they have been, probably can count on both hands.
Have some disruptive people been removed and charged? Yes.
Hence 99.99% is a reasonable number and no further justification is needed. Also this shows that protests are a non-issue.
No expertise is needed to report what is observed. The fact of the matter is almost all protests are allowed to take place without consequences. Which is also why you are butthurt about it.
If anything the one country that deserves the aid is Ukraine, not Israel.
You have reached the point of Bizarro debating for me to no longer engage you. I only deal with reality.
Yet you felt the need to question my expertise. LOL.
I dont question your expertise. I flat out say that you have no expertise in matters of legality regarding protests. All you need to know is that the almost all protests proceed without incident or consequence as a result of which you are butthurt. And any cases where there were issues were promptly dealt with. You are childishly (as usual) debating a non-issue.
They are making it easy for the ICC. Israel always self selects stupid.
The ICJ is about to rule whether Germany is aiding genocide.
This would be court ordered BDS.
Nicaragua’s five requests to the ICJ
During the court hearing earlier this month, Nicaragua requested five provisional measures.
They include:
This would be court ordered BDS.
Nicaragua’s five requests to the ICJ
During the court hearing earlier this month, Nicaragua requested five provisional measures.
They include:
- Germany shall immediately suspend its aid to Israel.
- Germany must immediately ensure that weapons already delivered to Israel are “not used to commit genocide, contribute to acts of genocide or are used in such a way as to violate international humanitarian law”.
- Germany must immediately do everything possible to comply with humanitarian law.
- Germany must reverse its decision to suspend the funding of UNRWA*.
- Germany must “cooperate to bring to an end the serious breaches of peremptory norms of international law by ceasing its support, including its supply of military equipment to Israel”.
