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Robert Mugabe

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George W sounded off about the situation. He said something deep to the effect that both sides are at fault, but in this case not Israel. Fucking genius elder statesman. Whatacunt. Anyway. Smerconish was interviewing Richard Clarke again. Pointed out the problems Israel is facing if they plan to go into Gaza on foot. Massive loss of Israeli soldiers. Hezbollah attacks from the North. It could all go sideways very quickly and Israel could find it's hands full very quickly if it escalates on all fronts.
Nobody wanted to see Palestinians suffer like this for so long. Except Netanyahu and right wing extremists. The people who might have come to some sort of agreement to coexist 50 or 30 years ago never got heard. Israel is falling into a trap.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Of course, all despots release position papers on methods of approved terrorism.
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So you can't back up your claim. Didn't think so. Israel and the IDF do not support settler violence.
 
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shack said:
So you can't back up your claim. Didn't think so. Israel and the IDF do not support settler violence.
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Do they do anything to prevent settler violence?

Serious question…I honestly don’t know.
 
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Knuckle Ball said:
Do they do anything to prevent settler violence?

Serious question…I honestly don’t know.
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TBH, I am unsure of that. But to be sure, it is not official policy to support it as frank claims.
 
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I just made the cut at 132 (back in the mid 1970's), but only joined back in the day as a way to meet women. Didn't work out lol.
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You should have told the co-eds that you were a communist. That's what I did and it worked beautifully. LOL!

BTW: I just heard that the Quebec government will double the fees for foreign students attending Quebec's English universities (McGill, Concordia and Bishop).
 
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Darts said:
I said as much. Nobody wants them, with the possible exception of western lefties/wokies. However, Iran finds them useful to beat up Iranian protesters and as canon fodder.

Thinking out loud would Russia want to recruit them to fight the Ukes?
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Not in the winter
 
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Robert Mugabe said:
George W sounded off about the situation. He said something deep to the effect that both sides are at fault, but in this case not Israel. Fucking genius elder statesman. Whatacunt. Anyway. Smerconish was interviewing Richard Clarke again. Pointed out the problems Israel is facing if they plan to go into Gaza on foot. Massive loss of Israeli soldiers. Hezbollah attacks from the North. It could all go sideways very quickly and Israel could find it's hands full very quickly if it escalates on all fronts.
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IDK.

There has been a lot of urban fighting in the middle East - i.e. Fallujah. So there's been a lot of opportunity to learn and analyze from other's mistakes.

And Israel wants to go in and isn't just talking about bombing and shelling and raiding. I think that they have some tactics worked out to actually take Gaza and I'm interested as a war history geek to see what they're going to do.
 
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toguy5252 said:
Get back to me in 50 years when Israel is thriving and Hamas is still selling the fantasy of driving the Jews into the sea.
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Will that be because they drove all the Palestinians into the sea, killed them all or are living in a true democracy with equal rights for all?

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So you can't back up your claim. Didn't think so. Israel and the IDF do not support settler violence.
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I backed up my claim with an independent report from B'tselem.
You made an incredibly stupid comment claiming all governments have policy papers on the war crimes they plan to commit.
 
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shapeup1 said:
No offer is going to work, its not about land its about religion. They want Jews dead. Its their Jihad. Their charter is the elimination of Israel,
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Hate speech.
And wrong, the 2017 charter said they'd settle for the 1967 borders if Palestinians voted for it.
 
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mandrill said:
IDK.

There has been a lot of urban fighting in the middle East - i.e. Fallujah. So there's been a lot of opportunity to learn and analyze from other's mistakes.

And Israel wants to go in and isn't just talking about bombing and shelling and raiding. I think that they have some tactics worked out to actually take Gaza and I'm interested as a war history geek to see what they're going to do.
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The rumours are that Israel wants to take the north part of Gaza and declare it a 'security zone'.

Israel aims to declare new security zone in northern Gaza: Analyst

Norman Finkelstein, an American author and political scientist, says Israel is aiming to expel Palestinians from the northern sector of Gaza and declare a new security zone there.
He described the Israeli operation in Gaza as “somewhere between a crime against humanity and genocide under international law”, and said the nuclear-armed state’s goal appears to be “to ethnically cleanse the northern sector of Gaza and declare it Israel’s new security zone”.
He added that “the cutting off of water, food and fuel to a civilian population, when keeping in mind Netanyahu’s claim that this situation will go on for a protracted period of time, and if you connect those two facts, no food, no water, no electricity for a protracted period of time, then its hard for anyone to concede that being anything but the crime – under international law – of genocide”.

This will result in 10's of thousands of deaths, both those who won't leave because they don't want a second Nabka and those who will starve or die for lack of water.

Both Biden and Trudeau have come out with statements saying Israel must not break international law.
Israel's already gone too far.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1713361530329178121
 
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