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Frankfooter

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When you say most Palestinians you may be optimistic about how far the radicalization reached, particularly in gaza.
I'd say the radicalization has dangerously reached us as we now have people who think themselves liberal supporting genocide.
When you call people 'cockroaches', can your own radicalization be fixed?

More terrorism in the West Bank.
Israeli army and settler attacks surge in occupied West Bank

Rights activists say the spike in violence against Palestinians in the occupied West Bank is a calculated Israeli plan to force the displacement of the Indigenous population as the war on Gaza unfolds.
At least 55 Palestinians have been killed and more than 1,100 others wounded in attacks in the occupied West Bank over the past week.
“They want to implement a third Nakba by spreading chaos and disrupting Palestinian institutions in more than one place, especially those that provide services to society,” says human rights activist Samir Abu Shams.


More terrorism on the people of Gaza
Ambulances being targeted by Israeli air attacks: Aid group

The Gaza programme manager for Medical Aid for Palestinians says ambulances in Gaza are being targeted by Israeli air raids.
“Sometimes ambulances can’t go immediately to the place because there is loss of communication, and you don’t know if they’re going to be targeted immediately or not,” Mahmoud Shalabi said.
“To die during this time is better than to get injured, because your treatment is going to be delayed. So this is actually more merciful than being injured during these attacks.”
 

Not getting younger

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Isreal needs to dissolve its apartheid state and stop its oppression and theft of occupied land. Ukraine did not need to kowtow to Russia it needed to implement the agreements it signed and which were brokered by France, Germany and the UNSC. Its failure to so has been its undoing. Its too late for Ukraine now. It will be brought to submission.
Let’s try this one more time.
THEY WERE GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY…HAD IT IN THEIR HANDS…

Further more. We here in Canada haven’t always been that nice to indigenous people here either. Oppression, genocide... Some are begging for water, some don’t live any better…

Those are called land treaties…..not armistice agreements. And we work that shit out with them. “See the differences”
 

Frankfooter

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Looks like Frank liking your post means he is now a Russia supporter. lol. Thats a 180 Frank!

But that said, I don't disagree with Israel needing to stop their oppression of the Palestinian people.

What you need to agree to, is that for them to do that, or for even for people to pressure them to do that, the Hamas needs to go.
That's what I was agreeing with, not his Ukraine stance.

End apartheid.
End the violence.
 

Frankfooter

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Let’s try this one more time.
THEY WERE GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY…HAD IT IN THEIR HANDS…

Further more. We here in Canada haven’t always been that nice to indigenous people here. Some are begging for water, some don’t live any better…

Those are called land treaties…..not armistice agreements
Do we wall in the reservations, control how much food, water and power there is?
Do you bomb the rez?

Now its about Palestinian Lives Matter.
Do you stand with the apartheid, colonizers?
Do you stand with genocide?
Or do you stand for equality?


 
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toguy5252

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Isreal needs to dissolve its apartheid state and stop its oppression and theft of occupied land. Ukraine did not need to kowtow to Russia it needed to implement the agreements it signed and which were brokered by France, Germany and the UNSC. Its failure to so has been its undoing. Its too late for Ukraine now. It will be brought to submission.
Hamas (and frankie and gryphon for that matter) will not be happy until Israel does not exist so it really has nothing to do with apartheid (and I do not accept that characterization at all) and everything to do with survival.
 

Frankfooter

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Hamas (and frankie and gryphon for that matter) will not be happy until Israel does not exist so it really has nothing to do with apartheid (and I do not accept that characterization at all) and everything to do with survival.
Stop posting bullshit straw man claims.
Its pathetic and sad.

If you think Israel can't exist without apartheid, that's a pretty fucked up view of your people and its 'democracy'.
 

nottyboi

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Hamas (and frankie and gryphon for that matter) will not be happy until Israel does not exist so it really has nothing to do with apartheid (and I do not accept that characterization at all) and everything to do with survival.
the path isreal is on is leading directly to its demise. 7m jews vs almost 600 m arabs and persians.
 

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the path isreal is on is leading directly to its demise. 7m jews vs almost 600 m arabs and persians.
Is there a path where this proportion would be different?
 

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A Palestinian flag is brought onto the soccer field in Iran. The Iranian people chant "The Palestinian flag, put it in your ass, put it in your ass." The Iranian people know where their aid money is going.... to fund terror. And they are sick of it!

My Persian buddy says the 80-90 % of Persians are against the Islamic dictatorship.

 
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Butler1000

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the path isreal is on is leading directly to its demise. 7m jews vs almost 600 m arabs and persians.
Except where are they? Many have treaties and trade ties with the West. Others have their own problems and concerns. Others want to sell oil.

Add in the West will ally with Israel.

The Gaza Palestinians are fodder. And after this will be sacrified by their own "allies" to prevent a greater war. Their Fake allies will happily see them martyred rather than save them. Such is the core values of Islam. Other Muslims in the corridors of power don't give a shit about them.
 

shapeup1

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Barak made an even better offer to them.
No offer is going to work, its not about land its about religion. They want Jews dead. Its their Jihad. Their charter is the elimination of Israel, the charter says: the struggle against the Jews is serious..and It emphasizes the importance of jihad, stating in article 13, "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."[6] They're like ISIS if not worst.
 

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George W sounded off about the situation. He said something deep to the effect that both sides are at fault, but in this case not Israel. Fucking genius elder statesman. Whatacunt. Anyway. Smerconish was interviewing Richard Clarke again. Pointed out the problems Israel is facing if they plan to go into Gaza on foot. Massive loss of Israeli soldiers. Hezbollah attacks from the North. It could all go sideways very quickly and Israel could find it's hands full very quickly if it escalates on all fronts.
Nobody wanted to see Palestinians suffer like this for so long. Except Netanyahu and right wing extremists. The people who might have come to some sort of agreement to coexist 50 or 30 years ago never got heard. Israel is falling into a trap.
 
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