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toguy5252

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2021 was the recruitment drive for 2023. They came back stronger than ever. The only people who couldn’t figure that out were the incompetent Israeli’s. And the best they can think of is to do it again.

Thanks to people like you who are the real supporters of the war crime of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. .
I rest my case. Sad.And even sadder for the Palestinian people who are victimized by people like you.
 

Frankfooter

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Been there. Done that. As have others.
Nope.
Never happened.
You're crying wolf.

Israel is killing a Palestinian every 5 minutes right now.
724 children killed
458 women

Genocide.

You need to deescalate, you need a way to stop the cycle of violence. Killing more Palestinians won't help

Naomi Klein:
For Zionist believers (I’m not one of them), Jew-hatred is the central rationale for why Israel must exist as a nuclear-armed fortress. Within this worldview, antisemitism is cast as a primordial force that cannot be weakened or confronted. The world will always turn away from us in our hour of need, Zionism tells us, just as it did during the Holocaust, which is why force alone is presented as the only conceivable response to any and all threats.

The Israeli state’s current murderous leveling of Gaza is the latest, unspeakably horrific manifestation of this ideology, and there will be more in the coming days. The responsibility for these crimes of collective punishment rests solely with their perpetrators and their financial and military backers abroad. But we all have to figure out how to make it stop.

So how do we confront this violent ideology? For one thing, we can recognize that when Israeli Jews are killed in their homes and it is celebrated by people who claim to be anti-racists and anti-fascists, that is experienced as antisemitism by a great many Jews. And antisemitism (besides being hateful) is the rocket fuel of militant Zionism.

What could lessen its power, drain it of some of that fuel? True solidarity. Humanism that unites people across ethnic and religious lines. Fierce opposition to all forms of identity-based hatred, including antisemitism. An international left rooted in values that side with the child over the gun every single time, no matter whose gun and no matter whose child. A left that is unshakably morally consistent, and does not mistake that consistency with moral equivalency between occupier and occupied. Love.

It’s certainly worth a try. In these difficult times, I’d like to be part of a left like that.


 

Frankfooter

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Seems reasonable
Only if you're a racial supremacist intent on colonizing and stealing the last of the land from the indigenous population and don't care that you are escalating from apartheid to genocide.

If that seems reasonable to you then you have some really deep issues.

Here's where the real failure lies. The US and Canada all knew that another round of violence would come, they've watched and enabled Israeli settler colonial apartheid, increasing settler terrorism and watched the Israeli government become way more extremist. And they did nothing.

THE REAL U.S. INTELLIGENCE FAILURE IN GAZA

“If there isn’t positive change, and particularly if we can’t find a way to help Palestinians live with more dignity and with more hope, the cycle’s likely to repeat itself,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken acknowledged at the end of the May 2021 war.

 

Frankfooter

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LOL. One of the more moronic comments for the prince of myopic comments (frankie being the king). Yea they have been screwing up badly. While they have been building a country and spending money on hospitals schools and industry and making a better life for its people Hamas has been spending its billions in aid on murder tunnels and rockets etc. You have obviously never been to Israel or the Gaza.

You are living proof that the Palestinians will never achieve statehood until they learn to love their children more than they hate the Jews. (not quite the real quote)
Moronic and myopic is an excellent way to describe someone who thinks escalating apartheid into genocide will lead to peace.
 

Darts

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"Protests around the world and US."

Yet, no Muslim country wants them except Iran to beat up protesters and canon fodder. Egypt just said they don't want them.
 

Frankfooter

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"Protests around the world and US."

Yet, no Muslim country wants them except Iran to beat up protesters and canon fodder. Egypt just said they don't want them.
Muslim countries are already hosting 5 million Palestinian refugees because Israel refuses their universal Right of Return.

They also see this as Israel's attempt to commit a second Nabka and ethnically cleanse Palestinians from Israel/Palestine.
 
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Not getting younger

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2021 was the recruitment drive for 2023. They came back stronger than ever. The only people who couldn’t figure that out were the incompetent Israeli’s. And the best they can think of is to do it again.

Thanks to people like you who are the real supporters of the war crime of ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. You must have been brought up in an atmosphere of extreme hate to support the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
The only people that can’t figure stuff out, see the forest for the trees, understand cause and effects, are those

brainwashed by radical Palestinians.
-play the victim card
-refuse to accept they were handed armistice agreements that would have seen an end to eyes for eyes, and Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank and Gaza. But flushed it down the toilet.
-play the victim card for the next 20 some odd years of war crimes by both.

And who today, obviously don’t like the bed they made, or the choices they made. And play the victim card.
 
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shack

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Nope.
Never happened.
You're crying wolf.
Frank. You need to accept that you have no credibility on the board. You have lied and obfuscated and debated so disingenuously that nobody can accept what you say at face value.

And you have nobody to blame for this but yourself. You created this situation.
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Try being a mensch for a change.
 

Klatuu

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If it’s true, great news. But hats off to everyone who shone a spotlight on Israel and its intent to commit war crimes. Israel’s willingness to undertake state war crimes is laid bare for everyone to see. It undermines its legitimacy as a state.
Without public scrutiny they would never have turned the water back.

 
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Not getting younger

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My, my…Hamas more capable than we thought

Oh please. Would you like a hero cookie for that act of aggression? And did you not notice that the pilot landed and all on board ( which may have carried injured civilians) got off safely.

aka you failed. There and here?
/golf clap.
 
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