Israel at war

[Butler1000]

Even Hamas of all people are saying that their fight is with the Zionists, not Jews and they want to go back to 1967 borders. 75% of Palestinians said Hamas was right to attack Israel, not that they dont want Jews.

Yes, they say that after Israel has brutalized them for 75 years and committed genocide against them, which Israel then conveniently uses to throw their hands up in their air as if the Palestinians are unreasonable. But forcing a 2 state solution is better than forcing apartheid, and genocide on them and given that choice, most Palestinian public opinion can be swayed.

Who continues to enforce a two state solution? And what happens if its violated?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

If this claim is accurate, Hxmas likely to face the IDF full force very soon

Lets hope

 

[xmontrealer]

What will a 2 STATE solution be "violated"? You are forming a sovereign country.

C'mon Kautilya. As if a sovereign Palestine state will not continue to attack Israel...

 

[Butler1000]

Why will a 2 STATE solution be "violated"? You are forming a sovereign country.

Because many Palestinians are against it and will fight. So once again. You enforces the borders?

 

[Butler1000]

C'mon Kautilya. As if a sovereign Palestine state will not continue to attack Israel...

He is young.

 

[xmontrealer]

No they wont. Hamas attacks Israel, because of Israeli oppression and brutalization of the Palestinians. Israel's actions are the cause. The cure is Palestinian freedom.

I dunno Kautilya. For an intelligent guy such as yourself, that seems a bit naïve...

 

[Butler1000]

They are not against it. Palestinians are realistic in that they do not believe a 2 state solution is possible. A 2 state solution is only possible with Israel giving up some land, but given Israel's attitudes, they feel it is unlikely to happen. What they want is a 1 state solution with Jews and Arabs having equal rights, but an ethnostate like Israel will not allow that.

This is the issue. Its not that the Palestinians are actually against a 2 state solution, they feel it is unlikely.

They are not wrong. But that is why international intervention and forcing a 2 state solution is necessary to end the conflict. I dont see a 1 state solution working at all. Too much of bad blood for that to work.

Public opinion is not static. Hence it can be swayed.

And who enforces the borders? The respective countries do.

And informed. As opposed to ignorant of the history like you.

The naive narrative is the one with the antisemitism accusation, xmontrealer. The injustices that Israel has visited upon the Palestinians is documented history now.

Once again. Who enforces the two state solution?

 

[xmontrealer]

EDIT

And who enforces the borders? The respective countries do.

Missiles and other air-born weapons do not respect land borders.

 

[Klatuu]

C'mon Kautilya. As if a sovereign Palestine state will not continue to attack Israel...

Every accusation by a Ziontologist is a confession.

 

[Klatuu]

Because many Palestinians are against it and will fight. So once again. You enforces the borders?

Dim

 

[Klatuu]

I dunno Kautilya. For an intelligent guy such as yourself, that seems a bit naïve...

Brainwashed. Racist. Poorly educated.

 

[The Oracle]

I dunno Kautilya. For an intelligent guy such as yourself, that seems a bit naïve...

I'd say blissfully naive at this point.

A two state solution died with Clinton's presidency.

The IDF is going to flatten Rafah.

 

[Butler1000]

Already asked and answered. Israel and Palestine do. They are the parties that agree to the solution. A 2 state solution ensures two sovereign self-governing nations. Each nation, polices and enforces its borders, just like every other country out there.

Missiles and other airborne weapons are not going to be thrown at Israel if a 2 state solution is implemented. The very reason you have missiles being launched at Israel, is because of Israel's oppression.

And if they go to war what then?

 

[Leimonis]

Once again. Who enforces the two state solution?

Enforcing is a minor detail with which true warriors for justice do not bother themselves

 

[Butler1000]

Enforcing is a minor detail with which true warriors for justice do not bother themselves

They are assuming reasonable people. They don't get they are willing to die on this hill.

 

[xmontrealer]

And if they don't go to war, what then?

"Peace in our time!" Which in most similar situations has historically turned out to be Science Fiction"

 

[Butler1000]

And if they don't go to war, what then?

History says they will. You are assuming reasonable people here. They haven't been for 75 years.

But once again. You have stated a "firced teo state solution". Who is the force? And who maintains it.

 

[shack]

Missiles and other airborne weapons are not going to be thrown at Israel if a 2 state solution is implemented.

 

[Frankfooter]

C'mon Kautilya. As if a sovereign Palestine state will not continue to attack Israel...

Well, Israeli Arabs don't attack.
Just give all Palestinians the same rights and that will fix it.

 

[Frankfooter]

I'd say blissfully naive at this point.

A two state solution died with Clinton's presidency.

The IDF is going to flatten Rafah.

That just leaves you with two end solutions.
Genocide - if you kill all Palestinians
Apartheid - then its more of the same, more resistance, more violence.

If the two state solution is dead then its a fight for equal rights.
You gonna march against equal rights?