Israel at war

Butler1000

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Yes, and they planned the sneak attack because Israel oppresses and brutalizes them. Haven't you heard the saying - "A cornered animal is almost as dangerous as a wounded one"? The Gazans were truly cornered, both politically and physically. So extremism and terrorism is what you get. Again, the way to put an end to extremism, is to not give it a chance to flourish - and in this case that means freedom.
You don't really think a peaceful solution can be reached do you?
 

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Reports in Gaza: Zahar Hamed al-Wali, director of the investigation department of the Hamas police in the central strip, was killed in an attack in Deir al-Balah. Along with him, his deputy, Jihad al-Hamidi, was also eliminated by an Israeli airstrike





 

Butler1000

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Even Hamas of all people are saying that their fight is with the Zionists, not Jews and they want to go back to 1967 borders. 75% of Palestinians said Hamas was right to attack Israel, not that they dont want Jews.

Yes, they say that after Israel has brutalized them for 75 years and committed genocide against them, which Israel then conveniently uses to throw their hands up in their air as if the Palestinians are unreasonable. But forcing a 2 state solution is better than forcing apartheid, and genocide on them and given that choice, most Palestinian public opinion can be swayed.
Who continues to enforce a two state solution? And what happens if its violated?
 

Butler1000

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They are not against it. Palestinians are realistic in that they do not believe a 2 state solution is possible. A 2 state solution is only possible with Israel giving up some land, but given Israel's attitudes, they feel it is unlikely to happen. What they want is a 1 state solution with Jews and Arabs having equal rights, but an ethnostate like Israel will not allow that.

This is the issue. Its not that the Palestinians are actually against a 2 state solution, they feel it is unlikely.

They are not wrong. But that is why international intervention and forcing a 2 state solution is necessary to end the conflict. I dont see a 1 state solution working at all. Too much of bad blood for that to work.

Public opinion is not static. Hence it can be swayed.

And who enforces the borders? The respective countries do.

And informed. As opposed to ignorant of the history like you.

The naive narrative is the one with the antisemitism accusation, xmontrealer. The injustices that Israel has visited upon the Palestinians is documented history now.
Once again. Who enforces the two state solution?
 

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I dunno Kautilya. For an intelligent guy such as yourself, that seems a bit naïve...
I'd say blissfully naive at this point.

A two state solution died with Clinton's presidency.

The IDF is going to flatten Rafah.
 

Butler1000

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Already asked and answered. Israel and Palestine do. They are the parties that agree to the solution. A 2 state solution ensures two sovereign self-governing nations. Each nation, polices and enforces its borders, just like every other country out there.

Missiles and other airborne weapons are not going to be thrown at Israel if a 2 state solution is implemented. The very reason you have missiles being launched at Israel, is because of Israel's oppression.
And if they go to war what then?
 
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