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Frankfooter

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mandrill said:
Frankie, ignoring that Hamas perpetrated the most hideous atrocity in 50 years on 7 October and then didn't have the guts to stand up and fight it out with the IDF makes you look silly.
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Oh right, you don't count Palestinians because you don't think they count as humans.
Even in 2014 Israel killed more than 2,000 Palestinians making that a bigger attack than Oct 7.

Palestinian casualties of war - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

You also refuse to accept that any of these are wrong, though they are all confirmed as war crimes.
The occupation
The blockade
The settlements
Transfer of civilians
apartheid
genocide

I have no idea why the only solution you've argued is ethnic cleansing and genocide.
You really think those will lead to peace and Israel not becoming a bigger pariah state than North Korea?
 
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mandrill

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Frankfooter said:
Oh right, you don't count Palestinians because you don't think they count as humans.
Even in 2014 Israel killed more than 2,000 Palestinians making that a bigger attack than Oct 7.

Palestinian casualties of war - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

You also refuse to accept that any of these are wrong, though they are all confirmed as war crimes.
The occupation
The blockade
The settlements
Transfer of civilians
apartheid
genocide

I have no idea why the only solution you've argued is ethnic cleansing and genocide.
You really think those will lead to peace and Israel not becoming a bigger pariah state than North Korea?
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But Frankie, we always have the same conversation and I explain that NO ONE on the board has argued ethnic cleansing and genocide.

And you don't listen because you're in a cult. You don't admit that Hamas killed or raped anyone on 7 October. You believe all the stats that Hamas pumps out. You chant silly slogans like "racism", "colonialism" and "collective punishment" that no one this board has argued for.

You basically learned a lot of chants and slogans in a university course or your "Socialist Feminist Trans Inclusionary Activists' Group for Climate Struggle, Indigenous Liberation and Palestinian Freedom". You don't actually process any of the facts that are out there. And why should you?...... There are literally hundreds of pro Hamas disinformation pages out there, paid for by Putin, Assad or your own badly-spent donations.

There are interesting conversations about what is happening in Gaza. You don't generate these because your opinions are so childlike. You are the Mitchell of Hamas atrocity denial. You are the Oracle of "Palestinian Suffering" Bullshit. You are a performing joke on these issues.
 
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Frankfooter

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mandrill said:
But Frankie, we always have the same conversation and I explain that NO ONE on the board has argued ethnic cleansing and genocide.

And you don't listen because you're in a cult. You don't admit that Hamas killed or raped anyone on 7 October. You believe all the stats that Hamas pumps out. You chant silly slogans like "racism", "colonialism" and "collective punishment" that no one this board has argued for.

You basically learned a lot of chants and slogans in a university course or your "Socialist Feminist Trans Inclusionary Activists' Group for Climate Struggle, Indigenous Liberation and Palestinian Freedom". You don't actually process any of the facts that are out there. And why should you?...... There are literally hundreds of pro Hamas disinformation pages out there, paid for by Putin, Assad or your own badly-spent donations.

There are interesting conversations about what is happening in Gaza. You don't generate these because your opinions are so childlike. You are the Mitchell of Hamas atrocity denial. You are the Oracle of "Palestinian Suffering" Bullshit. You are a performing joke on these issues.
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You posted in the first week that you think all of Gaza should be pushed into Egypt, that's ethnic cleansing.
Even now you refuse to call out the 'siege', the intentional deprivation of food, water, medical care, power and medicine that is an incredibly clear example of intentional genocide. Your denial sounds like bud plug saying J6 was just a bunch of tourists. You can tell yourself you're not pushing genocide but the rest of the world doesn't see it that way.

I'm the one posting from the Red Cross, Amnesty, HRW, Euro Med, WHO, Lancet and others.
You post from the IDF.

I quote the law as posted by UN Rapporteurs and international legal experts
You post gifs from the IDF.

You've been the mitch of zionists here for a few weeks, pushing for more death and genocide.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1734584019851915319

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1732807183010586989
 
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Leimonis

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mandrill said:
But Frankie, we always have the same conversation and I explain that NO ONE on the board has argued ethnic cleansing and genocide.

And you don't listen because you're in a cult. You don't admit that Hamas killed or raped anyone on 7 October. You believe all the stats that Hamas pumps out. You chant silly slogans like "racism", "colonialism" and "collective punishment" that no one this board has argued for.

You basically learned a lot of chants and slogans in a university course or your "Socialist Feminist Trans Inclusionary Activists' Group for Climate Struggle, Indigenous Liberation and Palestinian Freedom". You don't actually process any of the facts that are out there. And why should you?...... There are literally hundreds of pro Hamas disinformation pages out there, paid for by Putin, Assad or your own badly-spent donations.

There are interesting conversations about what is happening in Gaza. You don't generate these because your opinions are so childlike. You are the Mitchell of Hamas atrocity denial. You are the Oracle of "Palestinian Suffering" Bullshit. You are a performing joke on these issues.
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here's some helpful advise about this situation that chatgpt generated:


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Engaging in an argument with someone who is behaving irrationally or appears to be mentally unwell can be challenging and may not always be productive. It's essential to consider the context and your own well-being. Here are a few things to keep in mind:
  1. Futility of Reasoning: Individuals experiencing mental health challenges may not be receptive to rational arguments or logic. Their thought processes might be distorted, making it difficult for them to engage in a coherent and productive discussion.
  2. Emotional Toll: Arguing with someone who is irrational can be emotionally draining and may escalate the situation. It's important to prioritize your own mental health and well-being.
  3. Seeking Professional Help: If the person's behavior is concerning or poses a risk to themselves or others, it's advisable to involve professionals, such as mental health professionals, counselors, or authorities who can intervene appropriately.
  4. Setting Boundaries: If you decide to engage, set clear boundaries for the discussion. Avoid personal attacks, remain calm, and focus on specific behaviors or concerns rather than attempting to address the overall irrationality.
  5. Knowing When to Stop: If the conversation becomes unproductive or begins to escalate, it might be best to disengage. Continuing the argument may not lead to a resolution and could exacerbate the situation
 
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richaceg

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Frankfooter said:
You just said you think only Hamas are terrorists and that its just a label you use on Hamas.
Which means you just use it as an excuse to back genocide.

Do you back executing women and children who were just sheltering in a school?
Palestinians sheltering in school shot at ‘point blank’ range

On Wednesday, we published the footage obtained of the aftermath of what Palestinians describe as “executions” of families sheltering at the Shadia Abu Ghazala school in northern Gaza.
Videos and still images show bodies piled up in the school, with family members saying they found the bodies of their relatives with no evidence of shells or missiles, who were instead shot from a point-blank range.
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Other than you and hamas supporters....Trudeau and Biden has not called Israel terrorists...
 
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shack

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Frankfooter said:
In about six months you will try to deny you ever backed Israel's genocide.
In the meantime this is the kind of crap you have to tell yourself so you can sleep.
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In the meantime, The Lancet is not a valid to source to refer to in terms of validating numbers in a war zone. They are out of their area of expertise.

Seeing as you did not address my last post but simply pivoted to accuser, you finally agree that the Lancet is not a valid source.

You cannot produce a proper scientific study that they are studying.
 
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Frankfooter

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Leimonis said:
here's some helpful advise about this situation that chatgpt generated:


ChatGPT
Engaging in an argument with someone who is behaving irrationally or appears to be mentally unwell can be challenging and may not always be productive. It's essential to consider the context and your own well-being. Here are a few things to keep in mind:
  1. Futility of Reasoning: Individuals experiencing mental health challenges may not be receptive to rational arguments or logic. Their thought processes might be distorted, making it difficult for them to engage in a coherent and productive discussion.
  2. Emotional Toll: Arguing with someone who is irrational can be emotionally draining and may escalate the situation. It's important to prioritize your own mental health and well-being.
  3. Seeking Professional Help: If the person's behavior is concerning or poses a risk to themselves or others, it's advisable to involve professionals, such as mental health professionals, counselors, or authorities who can intervene appropriately.
  4. Setting Boundaries: If you decide to engage, set clear boundaries for the discussion. Avoid personal attacks, remain calm, and focus on specific behaviors or concerns rather than attempting to address the overall irrationality.
  5. Knowing When to Stop: If the conversation becomes unproductive or begins to escalate, it might be best to disengage. Continuing the argument may not lead to a resolution and could exacerbate the situation
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I'm sure that only an AI will give you support in your defence of genocide.

The genocide won't last that much longer, Biden is cracking. Yesterday he accused Israel of war crimes and called Netanyahu's government 'extremist'.
Now he's got his own staff protesting out in front of the White House.


https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1735131407838531779

The only thing keeping him going, it appears, is a similar case of racism to you, shack, basketcase and mandrill.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1735125244971810860
 
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Frankfooter

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richaceg said:
Other than you and hamas supporters....Trudeau and Biden has not called Israel terrorists...
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The rest of the world has.

CNN went into Gaza yesterday, the first western journalist to visit in two months. Israel has, of course, killed off about 60 Palestinian journalists as they intentionally tried to stop reports from getting out.

Its only going to get worse as reports like this hit the MSM and you become someone who supports killing and maiming children.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1735177271579742414
 
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Frankfooter

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shack said:
In the meantime, The Lancet is not a valid to source to refer to in terms of validating numbers in a war zone. They are out of their area of expertise.

Seeing as you did not address my last post but simply pivoted to accuser, you finally agree that the Lancet is not a valid source.

You cannot produce a proper scientific study that they are studying.
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Repeating a stupid argument over and over again isn't winning a debate.
The Lancet looked at how Gaza hospitals report deaths, that is totally within their field of study.
Unless you take the time to read this study and debate its merit I'll consider this argument over and that you have once again just tried to hasbara troll your way through.

Here's the study, if you won't read it you have to stop criticizing it.
 
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