Israel at war

[squeezer]

Squeezer, do you support Israel announcing plans to spend more money to build more settlements in what could have been Palestine's two state solution?

Do you think this is a move towards peace or justified?
Do you see this as colonization, theft of land or 'taking what they can'?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1728778201239851097

They will have to do what is necessary to stop HAMAS from lobbing rockets at them and feel safe within their country. As I've said before HAMAS started it and has brought fire and brimstone to the citizens and naturally Israel will finish it one way or another. THe quickest ending would be release all the Hostages instead of small groups and HAMAS surrender. I know, my GOD, they would have to give up their riches and lavish lifestyles but hey, one has to do what one has got to do.

 

[Frankfooter]

I would never join the marches and I wish they would commence to shut them down. I don't believe you about your Jewish "friends."

I also have both Jewish, Arab and Muslim friends and they all fall in line for their side except for a couple of Arab friends who are Christians, they side with the Jews. To avoid conflict when I am with the Arab and Muslim crowd we do not bring the topic up and if it does come up among them I stay out of it. You cannot change the minds of folks with skin in the game even if they are wrong.

Of course you can't speak about the subject with your Muslim or Arab friends, if you actually have any.
They'd rightfully brand you as a racist.

I can talk to both sides, including those I don't agree with like zionists like you. I talked to the cops guarding those with Israeli flags, the cops around the Palestine marches and quite a few people during.

But more importantly, can you articulate a path forward that you think will lead to peace and the end of this strife?
And how much more killing does it need to make happen?

 

[Frankfooter]

They will have to do what is necessary to stop HAMAS from lobbing rockets at them and feel safe within their country. As I've said before HAMAS started it and has brought fire and brimstone to the citizens and naturally Israel will finish it one way or another. THe quickest ending would be release all the Hostages instead of small groups and HAMAS surrender. I know, my GOD, they would have to give up their riches and lavish lifestyles but hey, one has to do what one has got to do.

Why did you even talk about Hamas in that post?

I asked you about whether you support Israel spending $100 million to take Palestinian land in the West Bank and make new settlements and you immediately pivot to Hamas? Wow.

You start from a position where you refuse to even acknowledge that Israel is a colonial state that is still actively taking and colonizing Palestinian land with military backed 'settlers'. They call the 'settlers', you can't get more blatant than that.

So what does Hamas have to do with Israel announcing more money and plans for 'settlements'?

 

[squeezer]

Of course you can't speak about the subject with your Muslim or Arab friends, if you actually have any.
They'd rightfully brand you as a racist.

I can talk to both sides, including those I don't agree with like zionists like you. I talked to the cops guarding those with Israeli flags, the cops around the Palestine marches and quite a few people during.

But more importantly, can you articulate a path forward that you think will lead to peace and the end of this strife?
And how much more killing does it need to make happen?

Why did you even talk about Hamas in that post?

I asked you about whether you support Israel spending $100 million to take Palestinian land in the West Bank and make new settlements and you immediately pivot to Hamas? Wow.

You start from a position where you refuse to even acknowledge that Israel is a colonial state that is still actively taking and colonizing Palestinian land with military backed 'settlers'. They call the 'settlers', you can't get more blatant than that.

So what does Hamas have to do with Israel announcing more money and plans for 'settlements'?

The only choice is a two-state solution with no HAMAS in the mix. This could never happen without level-minded leaders running Palestine. You can jump up and down, cry out as if you or I have any say in it but the reality is WE DON'T. You are so invested in this why are you here? Why are you not there helping out during this ceasefire?

 

[shack]

Nope. They come over to eat, laugh, and just have fun. Good modern guys. Absolutely my peers, and smarter than me on tech. They don't worship a death cult. That's the point. They observe some things to keep family off their backs, but really lead a North American life.

Tif their types were tunning Gaza, none of this happens.

They would have exploited the Gas deal by having their children educated to work on the platforms, to become engineers, builders, riggers. Then set up a sovereign wealth fund for Gaza infrastructure improvement. The USA and world would have backed this. Even protected them and offered loans and grants. The economic spill over would have added a slow cascade to tourism, food production, some manufacturing, and services that would have created mass employment opportinities.

All that would have led to full recognition of them as a state, with spillover to the West Bank.

And think about how they would be now positioned to supply Europe in light of Russia. The power and position that would have added.

Seriously, the equivalent is if 20 TRILLION was found off the coast of Canada, and the game changer it would be.

Instead they chose to follow the ways of an 8th century desert warlord. Charlie Manson of the Saudi Desert. Its a waste. Its a stagnant culture. Backward. More concerned with rules and the afterlife than growth and progress.

Just another example. Hell even the Saudi Royals get it, why do you think they were signing a peace deal?

Great post, But.

 

[Klatuu]

They will have to do what is necessary to stop HAMAS from lobbing rockets at them and feel safe within their country. As I've said before HAMAS started it and has brought fire and brimstone to the citizens and naturally Israel will finish it one way or another. THe quickest ending would be release all the Hostages instead of small groups and HAMAS surrender. I know, my GOD, they would have to give up their riches and lavish lifestyles but hey, one has to do what one has got to do.

Delusional.

 

[shack]

Yup, I saw that but it's been evident in Frankie's nonstop posts in anything to do with Palestine he supports HAMAS and thinks Israel is the monster. I just hope for Frankie's sake he's Palestinian or at the very least Arab because if not, it is a serious obsession. I can understand if one has skin in the game by being very passionate even if he or she is wrong.

People have a hate on for Jews, even if they're not Palestinian. Hitler and eastern Europe.

 

[Frankfooter]

The only choice is a two-state solution with no HAMAS in the mix. This could never happen without level-minded leaders running Palestine. You can jump up and down, cry out as if you or I have any say in it but the reality is WE DON'T. You are so invested in this why are you here? Why are you not there helping out during this ceasefire?

Show me a map where you think this two state solution lies.
Draw it out, or find a proposal, but show us exactly how this is supposed to happen.

Otherwise you're just another mark, like the US was agreeing to the Oslo Accords while Netanyahu bragged about stopping the two state and killing it through 'facts on the ground' the same way that told his government that the best way to stop the two state solution was to fund Hamas.

Go for it.
Its your proposal, show it.

 

[Klatuu]

People have a hate on for Jews, even if they're not Palestinian. Hitler and eastern Europe.

Brainwashed

 

[squeezer]

People have a hate on for Jews, even if they're not Palestinian. Hitler and eastern Europe.

DO you want to take bets if Frankie actually has any Jewish friends?? LOL

 

[Frankfooter]

People have a hate on for Jews, even if they're not Palestinian. Hitler and eastern Europe.

Stop with the tropes.

People are rightly pissed at zionists.

I have happily marched in toronto alongside these fine Jews.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1728504088151638276

 

[shack]

I suspect your Jewish friends are no longer your friends if you share your thoughts on this war as you do here.

He wouldn't have the guts.

He hides behind his anonymity, the way Hamas hides behind Gazan civilians. Birds of a feather.

 

[squeezer]

Show me a map where you think this two state solution lies.
Draw it out, or find a proposal, but show us exactly how this is supposed to happen.

Otherwise you're just another mark, like the US was agreeing to the Oslo Accords while Netanyahu bragged about stopping the two state and killing it through 'facts on the ground' the same way that told his government that the best way to stop the two state solution was to fund Hamas.

Go for it.
Its your proposal, show it.

Not my fight! I have no skin in the game so no, I won't waste any time on your ludicrous suggestion.. All I know is if I lived in Palestine I'd be fuming at the HAMAS leadership. Leaving me to get bombed while they live a life of luxury.

 

[shack]

Still talking about oct 7 . What about the Palestine people they had been bully by Israel from several decades.
IDF and Israel prime Minister don't want peace, they committed war crimes and genocide .
Even some of the hostages don't like Israel prime Minister is doing

There was a ceasefire. Hamas broke it.

The triggering war crime was Oct. 7

 

[Frankfooter]

DO you want to take bets if Frankie actually has any Jewish friends?? LOL

Should we also take bets on whether you have any friends at all?
How you gonna prove anything on an anonymous board?

 

[Frankfooter]

Not my fight! I have no skin in the game so no, I won't waste any time on your ludicrous suggestion.. All I know is if I lived in Palestine I'd be fuming at the HAMAS leadership. Leaving me to get bombed while they live a life of luxury.

Of course you know its impossible.
Typical.

 

[Klatuu]

There was a ceasefire. Hamas broke it.

Got a source for that Shack of sit?

 

[shack]

It is the truth though. Israel does fund genocide

How can they fund something that does not exist?

 

[Frankfooter]

There was a ceasefire. Hamas broke it.

The triggering war crime was Oct. 7

The fact that Israelis killed 200 Palestinians before Oct doesn't count to the zionists?
How about the 8 Palestinians that have been killed in the last 24 hours of ceasefire?

Does Israel's attacks on Lebanon and Syria, during this ceasefire, count?

 

[squeezer]

Of course you know its impossible.
Typical.

No, it's just not my problem and you can't negotiate with terrorists so, in the marches, demand HAMAS step down so they can start to work on something.