Israel at war

Leimonis

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Really, but the chief rabbi at the IDF said raping Palestinians is ok.
Its like its policy.

Fortunately, I know a moral person like you would totally change their mind given facts that showed their views were incorrect.

That seems to have happened in 2016 and he fully backtracked from it and apologized
 

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You are trolling and evading the question (the answer to which is quite obvious).

Answer my question - Give me an example of a time in history when a terror group surrendered because they were so concerned about civilian deaths. Just one.
Hamas although deemed a terrorist group is the governing body of Gaza therefore they must capitulate and surrender along with all their riches. Also since you admit they are a terror group, you also then agree they are responsible for the hell brought onto it's citizens.

If you cannot, then why will that strategy of mounting civilian losses in indiscriminate bombings persuade Hamas to surrender?
Very simple, they give up all the hostages and surrender. A ceasefire would follow and then a 2 state solution has a chance. I know, you along with your crew are in Lala land hoping for a one-state solution. GIVE IT UP, it's not happening but you can show them the way by giving up any property you own to the indigenous folks it was stolen from years ago.

So basically this boils down to you needing an excuse to defend your position that Israel is doing the right thing, because the "solution" you are proposing is a disingenuous one because you know that under no circumstances that will ever come true.
No excuses are needed. Israel is doing what it needs to do to defend its civilization and guarantee this will never happen again.

Also, please explain, what does Israel have to gain from a Hamas surrender?. Think politically. That would force Israel to work on Palestinian statehood. Because "peace" is not possible with just cessation of attacks. Peace here means statehood for Palestine. Which Bibi won't hear of. Here is the Likud charter to expand on that:
If you do not know the gain of a Hamas surrender, dude, I can't help you. You are completely lost and you are not thinking politically at all. NEVER EVER will there be a one-state solution and Israel would be mad to do it with people that despise them but you know that. You just like whining. Face it, Hamas in NOT in the driver's seat. They will be brought to their knees and hopefully one by one decapitated.
 
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Leimonis

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You realize that 4/5 Israelis are demanding Netanyahu resign?
That most Israelis blame Netanyahu, not Hamas for the attack?
If a father kicks his daughter out of the house in a mini skirt in the middle of the night and she gets raped, the mother would blame the father.
Would it mean to you that the rapists are not guilty? Because that’s what you’re saying
 

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That seems to have happened in 2016 and he fully backtracked from it and apologized
nudge nudge, wink wink

I'm sure that's why 150 rabbis wrote letters of support and why he is now promoted.
Why is it that absolutely everything Israel accuses of Hamas is actually an admission of their own acts?

 

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If a father kicks his daughter out of the house in a mini skirt in the middle of the night and she gets raped, the mother would blame the father.
Would it mean to you that the rapists are not guilty? Because that’s what you’re saying
This would be more like the entire family kicking out the father for killing all the neighbours.

 

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And again where are the police? It's bad enough with all the downtown demonstrations on public streets, but that is legal, to a reasonable point.

Intimidating customers and staff at Jewish owned businesses, and blocking people while they're trying to enter TTC vehicles is outrageous and possibly physically dangerous.

All levels of Ontario government must combine to stop the madness!
 

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And again where are the police? It's bad enough with all the downtown demonstrations on public streets, but that is legal, to a reasonable point.

Intimidating customers and staff at Jewish owned businesses, and blocking people while they're trying to enter TTC vehicles is outrageous and possibly physically dangerous.

All levels of Ontario government must combine to stop the madness!
If they are protesting a business because they are Jewish, that's wrong and antisemitic.
If they are protesting a business because the owner supports the Israeli genocide, that's fair.

The madness does need to be stopped.
 

Leimonis

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And again where are the police? It's bad enough with all the downtown demonstrations on public streets, but that is legal, to a reasonable point.

Intimidating customers and staff at Jewish owned businesses, and blocking people while they're trying to enter TTC vehicles is outrageous and possibly physically dangerous.

All levels of Ontario government must combine to stop the madness!
I am not optimistic. Looks like the West allowed too much of that poison and filth to enter and I don’t know how they are going to digest it
 
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Leimonis

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What 'poison and filth' are you talking about?
The anti western ideology some of which came with people who came to the first world from the third world but who brought the worst anti first world ideology with them in their heads and hearts.
And some of that ideology was of course cultivated by various other means from religious propaganda to Russian troll factories and everything in between.
 
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The anti western ideology some of which came with people who came to the first world from the third world but who brought the worst anti first world ideology with them in their heads and hearts.
And some of that ideology was of course cultivated by various other means from religious propaganda to Russian troll factories and everything in between.
Ah, you think its the 'dirty immigrants' who are out there protesting against genocide in Palestine.
If only there were more white people to support genocide, eh?
 

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Ah, you think its the 'dirty immigrants' who are out there protesting against genocide in Palestine.
If only there were more white people to support genocide, eh?
I mean it would be nice if the ”protesters” were “protesting” in their home countries rather than in the west.
whiteness has nothing to do with it though
 

Leimonis

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trump said something similar about immigrants.
Congrats on going lower.

I can’t go lower than team hamas aka team Palestine

by the way I have not realized this until now:

Irrespective of which party or leader Palestinians back, do they support or oppose Hamas’s polices?
By 70 percent to 28 percent, Palestinians oppose a two-state solution — “the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel.”
An even larger number — 76 percent to 21 percent — oppose a “one state solution …in which the two sides enjoy equal rights.”

like who the fuck is israel supposed to talk to about “peace”???
also is there any fucking doubt left about the meaning of “from river to sea”?
Also is it really so surprising that israel wants a fence between themselves and these people?
 
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I can’t go lower than team hamas aka team Palestine

by the way Jesus Christ I have not realized this until now:
Irrespective of which party or leader Palestinians back, do they support or oppose Hamas’s polices?
By 70 percent to 28 percent, Palestinians oppose a two-state solution — “the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel.”
An even larger number — 76 percent to 21 percent — oppose a “one state solution …in which the two sides enjoy equal rights.”


like who the fuck is israel supposed to talk to about “peace”???
also is there any fucking doubt about the meaning of “from river to sea”?
Certainly there is nobody on the Israelis side.
The UN rapporteur nails it.

Time to give Palestinians full citizenship now that Palestine has been wiped off the maps.

 

Leimonis

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Certainly there is nobody on the Israelis side.
The UN rapporteur nails it.

Time to give Palestinians full citizenship now that Palestine has been wiped off the maps.

So you propose to give full citizenship to millions of people.
75% of which believes that it’s not good enough and about 50% approve of active intifada aka terrorism to push the Jews out.

What exactly would stop hamas from continuing attacks, just from a stronger position? How much blood do you think would be shed if this arrangement came to fruition?

can you please admit that what you have suggested would be a suicide for israel and therefore pure insanity.
 

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These muslims fucks will pull a Rwanda if given citizenship.

They need to leave Gaza and West Bank much like Israelis leaving Egypt (The Exodus).

The only problem is these people cause trouble everywhere they go (see Lebanon), so nobody wants them.

Iran can take all of them since they love Hamas so much.
 
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So two months in and very little has changed, other than a brief ceasefire and hostage exchange. Nor has anything changed here.

1) that suggest to me, neither Israel or Hamas give a shit what “you” or the world and the SJWs think. The gloves came off.

2) For the most part, Western and thankfully Arab leaders have stayed clear. Have and are, for lack of better words. Letting them settle it themselves, how they see fit. Realistically the only wise, prudent, thing to do.

So um………….

3) The rest of the world, in particular the more vocal minority.

“Deal with it”.
 
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