And are the Palestinians and neighbouring Arabs willing to guarantee Israel's safety and right to exist? Because up to now they haven't been.Come on Israel give Palestine their state! Stop this shit, I've seen this fighting my whole life and I'm horrified. Make peace in the middle East! Give them the land, hostages will be returned, and no more war.
And is it the right of Jews to determine whether anyone, anywhere in the world is using their land properly or not?Well, far smarter people than me tried. However I'll have a go. Palestinians were sitting and shitting on a piece of sand for a couple of thousands of years and not doing anything with it. Jews started returning to the same patch of sand at the beginning of the last century and more came after the European holocaust. They established the state of Israel and proceeded to get busy. Turning the desert that the occupants at the time were doing nothing much with into productive farm land.
View attachment 265280 They offered the Arabs full citizenship and a piece of the pie. An offer which was soundly rejected with a counter offer of all their neighbors attacking them in a full scale war with the stated intention of annihilating them.
Now to cut to the chase. If the patch of sand they were living on is the main bone of contention, why not move to another patch of sand. The middle east has lots of room with Arab neighbors. Why not donate an area where they could move and prosper? Fighting over the one they've got doesn't seem to be working.
It amazes me how people forget this. As far as the latest shit storm in the Mid East.And are the Palestinians and neighbouring Arabs willing to guarantee Israel's safety and right to exist? Because up to now they haven't been.
Between the Tunnel system to Gaza, and hiding rockets in Schools hospitals and the like its tough. Add on no intelligence is perfect (9/11, Russian invasions, fall of Libya, I can go on).I have not read any post in this thread so far.
Anyone know why Israel got caught off guard by this attack? As some info come out on that?
I just read her statement(link below). Sorry, that's not Olivia Chow talking. That's Olivia Chow's advisors and handlers talking. They probably told her to keep her mouth shut and to let them handle it.Mayor Chow just released a statement regarding potential rallies at Nathan Phillips..
Just curious.This is what happens when both parties are in the wrong. No solutions.
Israel oppresses Palestinians. Palestinian terrorists attack Israel. Israel responds with disproportionate force, and further oppresses Palestinians. The cycle continues.
you mean this by the UN in 1947Because per my understanding it all started with the cock up of Israel's formation where a majority of land was given to a minority of Jewish immigrants, without any heed to Palestinian natives and their demands. Ask @Frankfooter he will show you the maps etc., And then the continued oppression over the last 7+ decades even though a lot of it is also law enforcement and military action because of terrorism.
While Israel may have the most blood on their hands……And there are reasons they have male and female conscription. And well maybe other things too.Israel reiterated its post-1956 position that another Egyptian closure of the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping would be a definite casus belli. In May 1967, Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser announced that the Straits of Tiran would again be closed to Israeli vessels.
As long as the Arab states don't recognize Israel's fundamental right to exist there can never be peace in the Middle East. Dream on...Come on Israel give Palestine their state! Stop this shit, I've seen this fighting my whole life and I'm horrified. Make peace in the middle East! Give them the land, hostages will be returned, and no more war.
The London FTSE and the Dow Jones are stable. Oil is up about $3 a barrel.Which is exactly why Trump should never be allowed near the White House. Days like this. Arguably ours too.
What happens tomorrow and this week?
Tuesday could potentially suck.
See also Black Monday.
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Trump's to blame.I have not read any post in this thread so far.
Anyone know why Israel got caught off guard by this attack? As some info come out on that?
I’d still keep an eye on things, futures in particular. So much uncertainty in the world. The markets have never liked uncertainties. But yep, thankfully.The London FTSE and the Dow Jones are stable. Oil is up about $3 a barrel.
All in all, the markets seem to be thinking this will not spread into a wider regional conflict.
And all those regimes from Middle East to Russia need enemies and indoctrination to justify their poor ass economy to their population.As long as the Arab states don't recognize Israel's fundamental right to exist there can never be peace in the Middle East. Dream on...