Israel’s War on the World

[PeteOsborne]

But you wouldn't take that concern into sources that are funding the genocide in Gaza?
At this point Iran looks way more moral and sane than this Israeli/US alliance, maybe its about time you considered listening to those sources as well.

The US has managed to cripple and destroy the effectiveness of the UN and now BRICS stands to represent more of the world, putting the US, Israel and UK and a couple of other countries on the outside.

Either that or just say you post based on the nation of Israel, not american or Canadian interests.

With northern Gaza desperate and hungry, Israel’s actions are shaking the world order to its core

Failure by the West to rein in Israel’s actions has led to accusations of ‘double standards’ regarding international law.

theconversation.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849155825450762580

This is getting tiresome, reread my post, there is nothing in it that mentions the talking points you constantly regurgitate.
There is no mention of genocide,Gaza ,Israel,UN, BRICS, Palestine or Palestinians or the morality of Iran,the US or any other country.
It was a response to this statement by Notty without supporting evidence, "Hamas is not an Iranian proxy, its actually funded by Qatar"
In your mind is his statement true?
If so please provide a more valid reference than the one I posted.
https://www.heritage.org/staff/robert-greenway
The money Notty states that comes fom Qatar is public and legal, including large sums of financial aid from Qatar via the United Nations, an arrangement encouraged and approved by Israel. The Qatari aid covers the salaries of civil servants, buys fuel for the power grid and provides cash to needy families.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-plagued-poverty-hamas-no-shortage-cash-come-rcna121099

 

[shack]

No, Israel is a parasite on american life.

No, Israel does a lot for the US. As such, it is closer to a symbiotic relationship. You yourself just said that they are allies.

Regardless, the US seems cool with it. Go write your congressman.

 

[mellowjello]

It's mentioned in the video

"...social media IDing this guy as a pro Hamas Supporter..." by a cheesy reporter means it's true?
What kind of proof is "social media"? IDing a guy with a hoodie and a mask?
The reporter showed up at the scene, could have asked restaurant staff why it happened but defaulted to "social media".
The restaurant statement didn't mention anything about protestors.

BTW, there were 4 guys, three of them carrying work lights with light stands, you don't think they targeted this place or this guy?
The guy that decked the punk, he's built like a real fighter and punched like a real fighter, you think this was random?
Were they wearing anything indicating pro-Palestine?
Any chance they could be trying to sensationalize the story?

 

[speakercontrols]

Let’s be honest. If Israel is the victim after killing 42,000 Palestinian, including 15,000 children, while undertaking a genocide and ethnic cleansing, I’m beginning to look at the history of “persecution “ with a much more critical eye. And those Palestinian death numbers are likely grossly understated.

Holy shit! You do know how to use more than one word when responding....

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

What kind of proof is "social media"? IDing a guy with a hoodie and a mask?

Anything can be presented as anything else.
You are right, there is no proof that this was anything about Israel Palestine, or about Politics for that matter.

 

[squeezer]

"...social media IDing this guy as a pro Hamas Supporter..." by a cheesy reporter means it's true?
What kind of proof is "social media"? IDing a guy with a hoodie and a mask?
The reporter showed up at the scene, could have asked restaurant staff why it happened but defaulted to "social media".
The restaurant statement didn't mention anything about protestors.

BTW, there were 4 guys, three of them carrying work lights with light stands, you don't think they targeted this place or this guy?
The guy that decked the punk, he's built like a real fighter and punched like a real fighter, you think this was random?
Were they wearing anything indicating pro-Palestine?
Any chance they could be trying to sensationalize the story?

Yeah, look at the guys carrying the sticks, they obviously bit off more than they can chew with the well-dressed man. Why do you get so flustered? Is it impossible to be a Palestinian, can they do no wrong in your eyes? Look, they wear black too.

 

[Klatuu]

Yeah, look at the guys carrying the sticks, they obviously bit off more than they can chew with the well-dressed man. Why do you get so flustered? Is it impossible to be a Palestinian, can they do no wrong in your eyes? Look, they wear black too.

Thicker than thick

 

[Klatuu]

POS Nation‘s lies are so predictable. Exposing them has become perfunctory.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848794837253759278

 

[Frankfooter]

This is getting tiresome, reread my post, there is nothing in it that mentions the talking points you constantly regurgitate.
There is no mention of genocide,Gaza ,Israel,UN, BRICS, Palestine or Palestinians or the morality of Iran,the US or any other country.
It was a response to this statement by Notty without supporting evidence, "Hamas is not an Iranian proxy, its actually funded by Qatar"
In your mind is his statement true?
If so please provide a more valid reference than the one I posted.
https://www.heritage.org/staff/robert-greenway
The money Notty states that comes fom Qatar is public and legal, including large sums of financial aid from Qatar via the United Nations, an arrangement encouraged and approved by Israel. The Qatari aid covers the salaries of civil servants, buys fuel for the power grid and provides cash to needy families.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-plagued-poverty-hamas-no-shortage-cash-come-rcna121099

You were arguing how evil it is that Iran funds some militias so its perfectly reasonable to ask why you don't have a problem with US or Israel funding or arming other despots, militias or countries.

 

[Frankfooter]

No, Israel does a lot for the US. As such, it is closer to a symbiotic relationship. You yourself just said that they are allies.

Regardless, the US seems cool with it. Go write your congressman.

Israel does nothing for the US.
AIPAC needs to be banned.

How Does AIPAC Shape Washington? We Tracked Every Dollar.

The Intercept followed AIPAC’s money trail to reveal how its political spending impacts the balance of power in Congress.

theintercept.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849385336641556952

 

[Frankfooter]

Is Netanyahu waiting until just before the election?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849213824596930576

 

[shack]

Israel does nothing for the US.

From Wiki: The United States has provided strong support for Israel.

In turn, Israel provides a strategic American foothold in the region as well as intelligence and advanced technological partnerships in both the civilian and military worlds. During the Cold War, Israel was a vital counterweight to Soviet influence in the region.[2] Relations with Israel are an important factor in the U.S. government's overall foreign policy in the Middle East, and the U.S. Congress has placed considerable importance on the maintenance of a supportive relationship.

But you wouldn't know.

 

[mellowjello]

Thicker than thick

He's very consistent.

 

[oil&gas]

.......
Israel provides a strategic American foothold in the region as well as intelligence and advanced technological partnerships in both the civilian and military worlds. During the Cold War, Israel was a vital counterweight to Soviet influence in the region.[2] Relations with Israel are an important factor in the U.S. government's overall foreign policy in the Middle East, and the U.S. Congress has placed considerable importance on the maintenance of a supportive relationship.
............

Vietnam was of similar strategic interest to the U.S. during the cold war.
Both China and Soviet Union had influence on North Vietnam. We know
how much more destruction resulted from the U.S meddling into the conflict
between the north and south Vietnam there. And we also know the U.S.
itself ended up losing only lives of its troops and all the money and arms
wasted in fighting the war and aiding the south. What vital interest of the U.S.
you think winning the Vietnam war would have served?

With the Middle East the one interest of the U.S. that could be threatened by
regional instability there is its dependence on oil imports from the gulf states.
To this day the U.S. (and Canada as well) are still buyers of oil from the region.
As such I can see having Israel as an ally watching over Saudi, Iraq and Iran to
be of strategic interest. As oil production outside the gulf region continue dwindling
at some point Israel-unfriendly gulf states could weaponize oil export again like
they did in the 1973 oil embargo.

Stripped of its oil resources the Middle East is a wasteland of little to no
value to the U.S. The visionary thing for the U.S. to do is to wean itself off
dependence on Middle East oil. If it is too challenging to cut back on oil
consumption a smart thing to do is to divest money away from fiancing
Israel to import of oil at premium prices. The U.S. will only stand to gain
more than it loses from a complete withdrawal from the Middle East.

 

[PeteOsborne]

You were arguing how evil it is that Iran funds some militias so its perfectly reasonable to ask why you don't have a problem with US or Israel funding or arming other despots, militias or countries.

This is getting really tiresome, AGAIN please reread my post, there is nothing in it that mentions the talking points you constantly regurgitate.
There is no mention of evil or funding some other militias, just Hamas and no metion of if I do or do not have a problem with US or Israel funding or arming other despots, militias or countries.
AGAIN, It was a response to this statement by Notty without supporting evidence, "Hamas is not an Iranian proxy, its actually funded by Qatar"
That is it that is all, you are making everything else up.

 

[Uwauwa]

Is Netanyahu waiting until just before the election?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849213824596930576

Probably, for right after the election.
Alas

 

[Frankfooter]

From Wiki: The United States has provided strong support for Israel.

In turn, Israel provides a strategic American foothold in the region as well as intelligence and advanced technological partnerships in both the civilian and military worlds. During the Cold War, Israel was a vital counterweight to Soviet influence in the region.[2] Relations with Israel are an important factor in the U.S. government's overall foreign policy in the Middle East, and the U.S. Congress has placed considerable importance on the maintenance of a supportive relationship.

But you wouldn't know.

Except, Shazi, that partnering with a genocidal racist regime has turned the world against the US. They're trying to kill the power of the UN and now the rest of the world is going to go it alone.

Even americans now hate their government.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849687341247627634

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1817997483835810142

 

[squeezer]

Thicker than thick

Yes, I have been told this by quite a few ladies but how do you know?

 

[squeezer]

He's very consistent.

Thank you, yes I am. You being a fervent Trump-supporting right winger I'm curious if Trump wins the election and gives BIBI more help to obliterate Lebanon and Iran will you still support Trump?

 

[Frankfooter]

This is getting really tiresome, AGAIN please reread my post, there is nothing in it that mentions the talking points you constantly regurgitate.
There is no mention of evil or funding some other militias, just Hamas and no metion of if I do or do not have a problem with US or Israel funding or arming other despots, militias or countries.
AGAIN, It was a response to this statement by Notty without supporting evidence, "Hamas is not an Iranian proxy, its actually funded by Qatar"
That is it that is all, you are making everything else up.

This is a discussion on the US/Israeli war on Arabs, its not outrageous to try to put your comments into this context.

The argument that any of Hamas or Hezbollah are proxies of Iran has been made from the Israeli perspective alone. Both Hamas and Hezbollah came into existence as a response to Israeli aggressions alone, not from foreign interference. The Houthis had been busy fighting their own wars with Saudi Arabia and the Yemen government, Hezbollah was turning into a political party with 40% of the vote and Hamas was the Gaza government that Palestinians saw as the only ones willing to use force in resistance to the occupation of Palestine. They are all independent groups with their own agendas. Lebanon is multicultural with Christians, Sunnis and Shiites, now united in their hatred of Israel for an attempted 3rd occupation of their country. Palestinians were split between the Fatah and Hamas for a long time, with Netanyahu funding Hamas to keep them from becoming united against the occupation.

All the countries around them have their own issues, with governments that have their own troubles. They'd all be happy to leave Israel alone if they weren't still busy doing what Walz declared as 'expansion' at the behest of the US.

The Israeli talking point of calling Iran the axis of evil or whatever they declare is nonsense. Netanyahu has been wanting to destroy Iran for decades, but only because its the largest regional player that they can't control. Up until the genocide they had Egypt and Saudi Arabia with tentative agreements, that's all shot now. Now Iran has joined BRICS and instead become part of a larger alliance that will push back against the US/Israeli war on Arabs.