Iran still enriching to 60%

[Frankfooter]

Interesting attempt to justify. I'm sure you think Iran is only enriching to 60% because Israel made them too.

Just a reminder that the IAEA which is widely critical of Iran is a UN organization. Remember when you claimed you support the UN?

Remember which country has signed the NPT and is presently in discussion for even more, voluntary treaties?
Hint, its not Israel.

Remember when Israel attacked Iran, assassinated a scientist and Iran responded by withdrawing from treaty talks?
That's your goal, stop Iran from signing the JCPOA so you can justify attacking them.
Isn't it?

Iran scientist's assassination appears intended to undermine nuclear deal

Analysis: Shooting of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh will do more harm to diplomacy than it does to Iran’s nuclear programme

www.theguardian.com

 

[basketcase]

Remember which country ...

...is enriching to 60%, hiding undeclared sites, and ignoring deals they made with the IAEA despite being a signatory and who the IAEA can no longer confirm it is a peaceful nuclear program?

But sure, keep frothing about Israel.

 

[Frankfooter]

...is enriching to 60%, hiding undeclared sites, and ignoring deals they made with the IAEA despite being a signatory and who the IAEA can no longer confirm it is a peaceful nuclear program?

But sure, keep frothing about Israel.

Remember which one is an NPT signatory and which one is attacking the other to stop them from signing the JCPOA?
Sure, keep defending apartheid and warmongering.
Why are you so against Iran signing a treaty that would stop them from building nukes?

 

[basketcase]

Remember which one is an NPT signatory ...

...and yet is violating it.

It's pathetically typical that you look for any excuse to avoid criticizing Iran and instead try to blame Israel.

Sorry but despite your Jewish conspiracy theories, Israel is not making Iran enrich to 60%, is not making Iran produce more 20% than they could use in decades, is not making them have undisclosed nuclear sites, and is not making them break off talks.

And you keep ignoring the fact that Israel would have been an existing power when the NPT was signed and would have been allowed to keep them.

I will also call out your Israel obsessed bias once again. India and Pakistan are non-NPT nuclear powers which are constantly on the verge of military conflict with frequent flare-ups and Pakistani scientists were integral in developing nuclear programs in both North Korea and Iran. But they're not Jewish so you really don't care what they do.

 

[Frankfooter]

I will also call out your Israel obsessed bias once again. India and Pakistan are non-NPT nuclear powers which are constantly on the verge of military conflict with frequent flare-ups and Pakistani scientists were integral in developing nuclear programs in both North Korea and Iran. But they're not Jewish so you really don't care what they do.

Israel, Sudan, North Korea, India and Pakistan.
That's your gang of non-NPT countries.
That's your team.

Of those, only one of them is trying to actively stop another country from signing NPT treaties with attacks on civilian nuclear facilities.
Only one of those is apartheid.

So sure, we can criticize Sudan and North Korea, as well as India and Pakistan, if you like.
The difference is nobody on this board is going to defend North Korea or Sudan, the only non-NPT country that anyone defends here is Israel.

Why is it that you are so against the NPT and countries signing nuclear treaties?

 

[basketcase]

Israel, Sudan, North Korea, India and Pakistan.
That's your gang of non-NPT countries.
That's your team.
...

And yet there is only one you complain about.

Meanwhile Iran has some violations of the NPT and the IAEA no longer confirms their program is purely peaceful. But instead of criticizing them for it, you try and blame Israel for Iran's actions.

 

[Frankfooter]

And yet there is only one you complain about.

There are lots of issues to complain about with Iran, from this new government to basic human rights and freedoms.
Which is why keeping them from building nukes is important.
Which is why Israel's attacks and attempts to stop the treaty talks are so particularly bad.

Why are you so against nuclear treaties, for both Israel and Iran?
Why don't you want peace?

 

[basketcase]

There are lots of issues to complain about with Iran, from this new government to basic human rights and freedoms.
Which is why keeping them from building nukes is important.
...

But you don't complain about them even when UN agencies can no longer confirm it is a peaceful program. Instead you keep making excuses for their actions that include violations of the NPT and actions that clearly violate the spirit of it. Even more stupid is you accusing me of being against a deal while you refuse to condemn Iran from walking away from talks.

 

[Frankfooter]

But you don't complain about them even when UN agencies can no longer confirm it is a peaceful program. Instead you keep making excuses for their actions that include violations of the NPT and actions that clearly violate the spirit of it. Even more stupid is you accusing me of being against a deal while you refuse to condemn Iran from walking away from talks.

Yes, because its more important that they be allowed to sign the JCPOA to stop a possible attack by Israel and a nuclear buildup.
After that we can lots of entertaining debates about whether or not Iran should be sent to the ICC with Israel.

In the meantime, you clearly aren't interested in peace or stopping Iran from building nukes.

 

[basketcase]

Yes, because its more important that they be allowed to sign the JCPOA...

Yet Iran walked away from negotiations while enriching to a level with no civilian uses and hiding nuclear sites but all you do is make excuses and try to blame Israel.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yet Iran walked away from negotiations while enriching to a level with no civilian uses and hiding nuclear sites but all you do is make excuses and try to blame Israel.

Yes, they walked away after Israel assassinated one of their scientists.
Until Israel signs the NPT, you really have no ground to complain about any other NPT signatory country's action.
Its hypocritical to the extreme.

Backing a non-NPT country's attempt to stop a nuclear treaty just to try and justify a war.
That's pretty nasty, basketcase.

Now this is entertaining.

Israel stops hundreds of Jews from moving to Iran as asylum seekers

Israeli authorities have stopped dozens of Jewish families of the Lev Tahor ultra-Orthodox sect from fleeing to Iran where they had applied for asylum. “Israel and the US are working to prevent...

www.middleeastmonitor.com

 

[basketcase]

Yes, they walked away after Israel ...

First off you can't keep inventing excuses to justify Iran. Iran is completely upfront that they walked away because that's what their newly elected crimes against humanity president wanted to.

And yes, I absolutely feel justified in criticizing Iran for violating the NPT deal they signed. if they want to continue getting the benefits of being an NPT member then they have the responsibility to follow it. If they don't want to be a member then they should drop out of it. Again, there is absolutely no civilian use for 60% U-235, the undeclared sites are a violation of the NPT, and Iran broke off talks.

But sure, keep on your asinine hypocrisy of pretending to be against nuclear proliferation while fawning all over Iran.

 

[Frankfooter]

First off you can't keep inventing excuses to justify Iran. Iran is completely upfront that they walked away because that's what their newly elected crimes against humanity president wanted to.

And yes, I absolutely feel justified in criticizing Iran for violating the NPT deal they signed. if they want to continue getting the benefits of being an NPT member then they have the responsibility to follow it. If they don't want to be a member then they should drop out of it. Again, there is absolutely no civilian use for 60% U-235, the undeclared sites are a violation of the NPT, and Iran broke off talks.

But sure, keep on your asinine hypocrisy of pretending to be against nuclear proliferation while fawning all over Iran.

The US failed to hold up their side of the JCPOA with Trump putting in place sanctions and publicly pulling out of the treaty.
Next Israel attacked Iran during negotiations, assassinating a scientist, and stopping negotiations to return to the deal.

So no, you don't get to criticize Iran while you defend the non-NPT country that is attacking another country just to stop the treaty from being put back in place.

 

[basketcase]

The US failed to hold up their side of the JCPOA with Trump putting in place sanctions and publicly pulling out of the treaty.
Next Israel attacked Iran during negotiations, assassinating a scientist, and stopping negotiations to return to the deal.

So no, you don't get to criticize Iran while you defend the non-NPT country that is attacking another country just to stop the treaty from being put back in place.

You are full of shit with your constant excuses for Iran violating the NPT and enriching uranium way beyond any civilian use. The UN (which you claim to support) can no longer confirm their program is peaceful and all you can do is bitch about Israel who've had nukes from the mid-'60s.

Just another case where your pathetic double standard shows.


And last I checked, as a Canadian I have the absolute right to criticize Iran for failing to adhere to the deal they are part of. The only place I know of that criticism of Iran get you in trouble is in Iran.

 

[Frankfooter]

You are full of shit with your constant excuses for Iran violating the NPT and enriching uranium way beyond any civilian use. The UN (which you claim to support) can no longer confirm their program is peaceful and all you can do is bitch about Israel who've had nukes from the mid-'60s.

Just another case where your pathetic double standard shows.


And last I checked, as a Canadian I have the absolute right to criticize Iran for failing to adhere to the deal they are part of. The only place I know of that criticism of Iran get you in trouble is in Iran.

No, if you're going to spend most of your time on this board defending a non-NPT country's attacks to try to stop another country from signing more treaties, you really don't get to criticize.

Because its clear you don't want peace, don't want Iran to sign a treaty that would guarantee they don't build nukes.
All you seem to want is justification for non-NPT Israel to start a war or have someone else start a war on NPT signatory Iran before they can sign the JCPOA.

 

[Frankfooter]

In the news today, is this the reason why this thread has gone on for 13 pages?

Israel said to approve $1.5 billion budget for potential strike on Iran

Sum said to include funds for aircraft, intel-gathering drones and unique armaments needed for attack; report comes days after US announces successful test of new bunker buster

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[basketcase]

No, if you're going to spend most of your time on this board defending a non-NPT country's attacks to try to stop another country from signing more treaties, you really don't get to criticize.
...

So you realize there is no defense for Iran's actions so you just demand I stop criticizing Iran. Thankfully I don't live in Iran so I am free to criticize a country for enriching to 60%, hiding nuclear sites and refusing to negotiate.

 

[basketcase]

In the news today, is this the reason why this thread has gone on for 13 pages?

Yes, your obsession with Israel making you defend Iran is the reason why this has gone on so long.

 

[Frankfooter]

So you realize there is no defense for Iran's actions so you just demand I stop criticizing Iran. Thankfully I don't live in Iran so I am free to criticize a country for enriching to 60%, hiding nuclear sites and refusing to negotiate.

Israel enriched enough to build multiple bombs off stolen American material, tried to sell the bomb to apartheid South Africa and still refuses to sign the NPT.
They've threatened nuclear war and are actively attacking Iran in order to stop them from signing the JCPOA.

So you want me to criticize the country that is in negotiations to sign a treaty guaranteeing they won't build a bomb and then not criticize the non-NPT country that is attacking them to try to stop them from signing a treaty?

You're nuts.

I want Iran to sign the JCPOA;
That's how to keep them from building a bomb.
Not threatening them with war and constantly attacking them.

Israel said to approve $1.5 billion budget for potential strike on Iran

Sum said to include funds for aircraft, intel-gathering drones and unique armaments needed for attack; report comes days after US announces successful test of new bunker buster

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[basketcase]

Israel enriched enough to build multiple bombs off ...

And as you keep ignoring, they've been a nuclear power since before the NPT and would/will be allowed to keep them even if they sign.

Have you ever asked yourself why your obsession with Israel prevents you from criticizing Iran for violations of the NPT and actions that have no conceivable civilian use?