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Iran still enriching to 60%

Frankfooter

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the big question frank is WHY do you continue to defend and support designated terrorists and state sponsors of terrorists?

do you hate Jews so much that you want Iran to get nukes and nuke Israel?
The question is why do you want Iran to get nukes, not me.
I'm all for Iran re-negotiating the JCPOA so that the IAEA can monitor and confirm that they still aren't building nukes.
But you and basketcase seem to be arguing that instead Israel should just keep attacking them and destroying the IAEA's monitoring equipment.

Why are you both so against peace and having Iran sign a treaty that will guarantee they won't build nukes?
 

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The question is why do you want Iran to get nukes, not me.
I'm all for Iran re-negotiating the JCPOA so that the IAEA can monitor and confirm that they still aren't building nukes.
But you and basketcase seem to be arguing that instead Israel should just keep attacking them and destroying the IAEA's monitoring equipment.

Why are you both so against peace and having Iran sign a treaty that will guarantee they won't build nukes?
Iran wont get nukes Israel will see to that Iran will not listen to anyone force will be the only way they are using terrorist tactics to try and force the world to give them what they wont by continuing to enrich to levels well beyond what is needed for civilian use

once again you blame Israel

why do you hate Jews so much?
 

Frankfooter

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Iran wont get nukes Israel will see to that Iran will not listen to anyone force will be the only way they are using terrorist tactics to try and force the world to give them what they wont by continuing to enrich to levels well beyond what is needed for civilian use

once again you blame Israel

why do you hate Jews so much?
I don't like Israel's policies, and its an anti semitic trope to suggest that criticizing Israel is criticizing the Jewish people.
Please stop the anti-semitic tropes.

Also, bragging that Israel will attack Iran then trying to say that I'm blaming Israel for the attacks you just bragged about is about as self destructive an argument you can make.
As own goals go, that's golden.

I say stop defending Israel's attempts to stop the JCPOA, the only legit way to stop Iran from starting up a nuclear weapons program.
Support peace, not terrorism, apartheid and anti-semitic tropes.
 

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I don't like Israel's policies, and its an anti semitic trope to suggest that criticizing Israel is criticizing the Jewish people.
Please stop the anti-semitic tropes.

Also, bragging that Israel will attack Iran then trying to say that I'm blaming Israel for the attacks you just bragged about is about as self destructive an argument you can make.
As own goals go, that's golden.

I say stop defending Israel's attempts to stop the JCPOA, the only legit way to stop Iran from starting up a nuclear weapons program.
Support peace, not terrorism, apartheid and anti-semitic tropes.
Frank you continuously defendsupport and attempt to justify the actions of The Terrorists hamas You also constantly defend Iran which is a state sponsor of terror

what’s wrong with you that you consistently defend Terrorists

It’s a fact you blame everything on Israel and the Jews For some strange reason you hate Jews
 

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Why are you so against Iran signing the JCPOA and the US honouring its side of the deal?
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Your excuses are really pathetic. Iran is the one enriching to 60% which has zero civilian uses. Iran is the one caught with undeclared nuclear sites they refuse to explain. Iran is the one who banned IAEA inspectors despite having just agreed to let them in. More significantly, Iran is the one who stopped negotiations.

But you hate Israel so much that you are willing to excuse a despotic country led by a guy your rights groups have condemned and are running a provocative nuclear program.
 

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Your excuses are really pathetic. Iran is the one enriching to 60% which has zero civilian uses. Iran is the one caught with undeclared nuclear sites they refuse to explain. Iran is the one who banned IAEA inspectors despite having just agreed to let them in. More significantly, Iran is the one who stopped negotiations.

But you hate Israel so much that you are willing to excuse a despotic country led by a guy your rights groups have condemned and are running a provocative nuclear program.
Iran is an NPT signatory.
Israel is not and Israel is actively trying to stop Iran from signing the JCPOA and ending any worries that they'd develop a nuclear weapons program.

Why are you so against peace talks and treaties?


 

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Iran is an NPT signatory.
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And have violated the NPT by having undeclared sites.

There is NO possible civilian use of 60% Uranium. There is almost no civilian use for Uranium metal. More importantly, Iran are the ones who stopped negotiating a new agreement. That is why the IAEA has declared they can't confirm the program is peaceful.

But instead you're obsessed with Israel who have had nukes for more than 50 years and would therefore been allowed to keep them even if they signed. As I said, your refusal to be critical of Iran is simply because your obsession with Israel because there is no justification for the current nuclear actions. And of course you act as if there's only 1 non-NPT country because criticizing Pakistan, India, or North Korea doesn't help your obsession.
 

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And have violated the NPT by having undeclared sites.

There is NO possible civilian use of 60% Uranium. There is almost no civilian use for Uranium metal. More importantly, Iran are the ones who stopped negotiating a new agreement. That is why the IAEA has declared they can't confirm the program is peaceful.

But instead you're obsessed with Israel who have had nukes for more than 50 years and would therefore been allowed to keep them even if they signed. As I said, your refusal to be critical of Iran is simply because your obsession with Israel because there is no justification for the current nuclear actions. And of course you act as if there's only 1 non-NPT country because criticizing Pakistan, India, or North Korea doesn't help your obsession.

Iran is an NPT signatory.
Israel is not and Israel is actively trying to stop Iran from signing the JCPOA and ending any worries that they'd develop a nuclear weapons program.

Why are you so against peace talks and treaties?


 

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Iran is an NPT signatory.
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Which they violated by having undeclared sites. They are also enriching to 60% which has no possible civilian uses. As it has no civilian use it can also been seen as an NPT violation. They are also the ones who broke off the negotiation for a deal based on orders of their new president (who your Amnesty considers guilty of crimes against humanity).

Most transparently you are still trying to blame Iran's actions on Israel instead of actually holding their totalitarian oligarchs responsible for their own actions.


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Why are you so against peace talks and treaties?
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Good point....if you actually criticized Iran for breaking off the talks.
 

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Israel is not an NPT signatory.
Until they are, your's and Israel's criticism of the NPT is worthless.
Are you still trying to blame them for Iran's NPT violations?

You really are a one trick pony. Why are you afraid to criticize Iran for stopping the treaty talks?
 

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Are you still trying to blame them for Iran's NPT violations?
1 - Why should Iran abide by a treaty that you don't think Israel should even sign?
2 - Why do you think Israel destroying the equipment the IAEA uses to monitor Iranian activities isn't important?
 

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1 - Why should Iran abide by a treaty that you don't think Israel should even sign?
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Why are you blaming Israel for Iran violating the NPT? Do you not think Persians are capable of being responsible for their own choices?
 

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Why are you blaming Israel for Iran violating the NPT? Do you not think Persians are capable of being responsible for their own choices?
Israel destroyed IAEA cameras, that is what the present dispute is about.
Why do you think its ok for Israel to try to stop the JCPOA from being re-enacted?

Why do you support violence over peace treaties?
Why do you think Israel shouldn't sign the NPT and instead attack Iran?

Why do you back a warmongering, apartheid state over negotiations that would guarantee Iran didn't build nukes?
 

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Israel destroyed IAEA cameras, ...
Why are you incapable of criticizing Iran for enriching to 60%, massively increasing their 20% stock in the past month, and having undeclared nuclear sites they refuse to explain to the IAEA? And it's comical that you claim I'm against negotiations while you refuse to condemn Iran for backing out of them.
 

Frankfooter

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Why are you incapable of criticizing Iran for enriching to 60%, massively increasing their 20% stock in the past month, and having undeclared nuclear sites they refuse to explain to the IAEA? And it's comical that you claim I'm against negotiations while you refuse to condemn Iran for backing out of them.
Because its a negotiating tactic.
The US still refuses to say they hold up the original JCPOA and end the sanctions that Trump put in place.
So Iran is putting pressure by showing that they have the capacity to develop a nuclear weapons program should Israel succeed and stop the treaty from happening.

Why are you so against Iran signing a treaty that would guarantee they don't build nukes?
The only thing you defend here are attacks against Iran.
 

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I see, refusing to negotiate while enriching to 60% and having undeclared nuclear sites is an acceptable negotiation tactic. What bullshit you spew.
They aren't refusing to negotiate, there was a delay with a new government.
They have also been waiting for the US to agree to hold up their side of the JCPOA, which they have yet to agree.

As usual you are lying and just posting talking points.



 

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They aren't refusing to negotiate, there was a delay with a new government.
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Interesting attempt to justify. I'm sure you think Iran is only enriching to 60% because Israel made them too.

Just a reminder that the IAEA which is widely critical of Iran is a UN organization. Remember when you claimed you support the UN?
 
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