I know it's all a big geopolitical game but it's worth mentioning that Iran is accelerating the problem.
"Iran cannot have nukes" Trump warns
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Sure, if they withdraw from the NPT, they can do what they want. But Iran doesn't want to give up the economic advantages of staying in the deal so it is trying to have the geopolitical power of a nuclear nation while also staying just short of having nukes.
p.s. It's pretty fucked up to think that the world would be a better place if Iran and Saudi had nukes.
Total made up justification. No one is threatening Iran's annihilation. There are countries very concerned about Iran potentially having nuclear weapons and have hinted on attacks directly on that program but no one (in any kind of power) is calling for Iran to be wiped out. Iran on the other hand is regularly calling for the destruction of the US and Israel.
Um, do you know why the UN sanctions on Iran forced Iran to accept the deal in the first place?
And the JCPOA was set to expire next year.
There were no inspection by the US. There were inspection by the IAEA which explicitly excluded Americans by Iranian demand. Those inspections were routinely delayed and Iran has refused to explain to the IAEA why they found nuclear traces at undeclared sites.
Among the many reasons the UN sanctioned Iran's nuclear program in the first place was Iran having a larger centrifuge capacity for one civilian reactor than the US does for the hundreds it supplies.
Show me one quote from them saying Iran ( the country as opposed to the nuclear program) needs to be destroyed.
Good point. Israel has had them since the 60's and never used them so I guess they can be trusted.
Exactly. All these people bitching about Iran having nukes, when everyone else has them.
Either they're zionists themselves, or they're their fan boys. Either way, none of these chickenhawks will put his own ass on the line to stop Iran.
Great. I'm sure the Iranian people will be happy with the North Korea level of isolation.
But part of me prefers the honesty rather than their decades long policy of being a threat to quickly make nukes whenever they want.
Um…okay.
My statement remains correct. Iran would not be developing nukes as we speak today if Trump hadn’t torn up the JCPOA…so for him to come back now blustering about Iran having nukes is kinda rich…although sadly not surprising.
I believe Trump will huff and puff about Iran but will have no stomach to do anything involving military action. He will probably try to impose tariffs on other countries doing business with Iran…but that would include (presumably) Russia and China so he will have no stomach for that either as he wants to cut deals and line his own pockets along the way.
It was a bad deal but it was better than nothing. Perhaps the UN continuing it's sanctions would make the Iranian people suffer enough to overthrow their government but based on their regime's ability to suppress popular movements, I don't know if it was even a possibility.
Again the deal was set to expire next year which would have allowed Iran to go back to the massive enrichment program they had before 2015. Maybe the UN would have re-engaged sanction until a new deal was formed but with Russia relying on Iran to support it's war on Ukraine, it is unlikely that they would pass the UNSC.
Trump brough the issue forward a few years but the problem would still be a problem unless Iran's leaders eventually decide that using a nuclear possibility as a threat isn't the best path forward.
Um, do you pay attention to the modern world?
Russia has huge amounts of oil and their problem is only getting around sanctions. They would actually benefit from Iran's oil being taken off the board by having less competition for the countries/corporations willing to ignore sanctions.
I don’t have an exact quote but the whole Bomb Bomb Bomb…Bomb Bomb Iran Wing of the GOP kinda give off that vibe.
Maybe I should replace my SUV with an M1A2 Abrams and start my own nuclear weapons program. Who knows what threat I will face in the future.
So "vibes". I can give you many, many quotes of Iran's Parliament and leaders cheering for the death of America and Israel.
Even the "bomb Iran" claims were not anything about wiping out the country or even invading.
As I said…the Iranians would not be developing nukes now and would have been aggressively advancing their nuclear program since 2018 if Trump hadn’t pulled out of the deal. Iran would be further away from a bomb and the world would be far safer than it is now and that is because of Donald Trump.
What would have happened when the deal expired in 2016? Well…I guess we’ll never know.
Considering Iran actively deploys it's IRGC (considered terrorists by Canada) around the world to influence other countries through violence, those countries have very valid reasons to be hostile.
For example, look at Lebanon right now. With Hezbollah hit hard and their arming route through Syria cut off, Lebanon's elected government is actually able to act against that Iranian proxy.
And again, Iran is not under threat. The IRGC and Iran's nuclear program is under threat but they are the threat other countries are worried about, not the country or the people.
