"Iran cannot have nukes" Trump warns

[basketcase]

As I said…the Iranians would not be developing nukes now and would have been aggressively advancing their nuclear program since 2018 if Trump hadn’t pulled out of the deal. Iran would be further away from a bomb and the world would be far safer than it is now and that is because of Donald Trump.

What would have happened when the deal expired in 2016? Well…I guess we’ll never know.

We can easily predict as unlike in 2015, Iran has a powerful (politically) ally in Russia.

As I said, the deal was better than nothing but it did not solve the problem and even during the deal, Iran was delaying and ignoring the IAEA. Not enough to cancel the deal IMO but it was a huge indicator that the issue remained.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

So "vibes". I can give you many, many quotes of Iran's Parliament and leaders cheering for the death of America and Israel.

Even the "bomb Iran" claims were not anything about wiping out the country or even invading.

Considering Iran actively deploys it's IRGC (considered terrorists by Canada) around the world to influence other countries through violence, those countries have very valid reasons to be hostile.

And again, Iran is not under threat. The IRGC and Iran's nuclear program is under threat but they are the threat other countries are worried about, not the country or the people.

I do not understand why you keep arguing with me about this.

Peace out.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Iran’s current regime, not Iran, should be completely annihilated. Why are you standing up for them.

The only people who need to annihilate the Iranian regime, should be Iranians themselves.
Nobody else.
Don't poke your nose in someone else's problems.

 

[bazokajoe]

The US has had nukes long before Trump. So maybe put your TDS aside for a moment and answer the question from a nation perspective.

I did.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Exactly. All these people bitching about Iran having nukes, when everyone else has them.

Either they're zionists themselves, or they're their fan boys. Either way, none of these chickenhawks will put his own ass on the line to stop Iran.

Exactly.
You keep threatening a country and they are going to do whatever it takes to survive.
Including developing nukes and they'd be completely justified in doing so.

 

[basketcase]

I do not understand why you keep arguing with me about this.

Peace out.

You can't understand why I would argue with a non-factual claim on an internet forum? Okay then.

 

[PeterParker1000]

The only people who need to annihilate the Iranian regime, should be Iranians themselves.
Nobody else.
Don't poke your nose in someone else's problems.

Iran has threatened US allies such as Israel and Saudi Arabia

Primary sponsor of Hezbollah. Backed Hamas. Both who want destruction of the US and have caused major instability in the region

Threatened global oil supply

Assasination plots on US soil. Cyberattacks in the US

Ballistic weapons capable of housing nuclear warheads

We destroyed Iraq unjustly for a lot less. Iran is a legitimate threat. We go in for US national security, not to save the people of Iran.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Iran has threatened US allies such as Israel and Saudi Arabia

Primary sponsor of Hezbollah. Backed Hamas. Both who want destruction of the US and have caused major instability in the region

Threatened global oil supply

Assasination plots on US soil. Cyberattacks in the US

Ballistic weapons capable of housing nuclear warheads

We destroyed Iraq unjustly for a lot less. Iran is a legitimate threat. We go in for US national security, not to save the people of Iran.

It isn't Iran that first meddled in American business. It was the other way around.
And regime changes create bigger problems as we saw with the near 20 year occupation of Iraq.
And the US and Israel have done much more.
Assassinated Iran's scientists.
Bombed them.
Killed their generals.
Cyber attacked them.
Of course this will motivate them to develop nukes and missiles. Why wouldn't it?
Stop being a national security threat for other countries, and they will stop being a national security threat for you.

 

[PeterParker1000]

It isn't Iran that first meddled in American business. It was the other way around.
And regime changes create bigger problems as we saw with the near 20 year occupation of Iraq.
And the US and Israel have done much more.
Assassinated Iran's scientists.
Bombed them.
Killed their generals.
Cyber attacked them.
Of course this will motivate them to develop nukes and missiles. Why wouldn't it?
Stop being a national security threat for other countries, and they will stop being a national security threat for you.

Doesn’t matter who struck first. It’s a problem right now.

You could argue it was the US with the coup in the 50s or the hostage crisis of the 70s from Iran. It’s been messy since then with both sides striking at each other.

You think Iran is just going to disappear if we leave them alone. They will be a constant threat. I don’t want another war either so it will be interesting to see how we handle this through diplomacy. I personally would like to see the current regime knocked out but easier said than done. They are not good for the world.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Doesn’t matter who struck first. It’s a problem right now. You think Iran is just going to disappear if we leave them alone. They will be a constant threat.

You could argue it was the US with the coup in the 50s or the hostage crisis of the 70s from Iran. It’s been messy since then with both sides striking at each other.

Sure.
But that justifies them developing nukes and missiles.
An invasion is not something the US wants to get into right now.

 

[Bucktee]

Trump is absolutely right.

No nukes for Iran or any other country in the ME.

Israel should not have them either.

 

[PeterParker1000]

Trump is absolutely right.

No nukes for Iran or any other country in the ME.

Israel should not have them either.

Sounds fair.

 

[shack]

Either they're Zionists themselves

They all want Israel to be their homeland?

 

[southpaw]

We destroyed Iraq unjustly for a lot less. Iran is a legitimate threat. We go in for US national security, not to save the people of Iran.

Neither Iraq nor Iran pose any threat to the US. They're threats to Israel. Americans may tire of sending their young to die for Israel.

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[southpaw]

They all want Israel to be their homeland?

They all want it to be an ethnostate.

 

[shack]

Um…okay.

My statement remains correct. Iran would not be developing nukes as we speak today if Trump hadn’t torn up the JCPOA

Of course they would. They were hiding things from the IAEA. They were denying access to certain areas.

 

[danmand]

Of course they they would. They were hiding things from the IAEA. They were denying access to certain areas.

Now you are denying facts. The inspections were comprehensive.

 

[shack]

They all want it to be an ethnostate.

Zionism is the desire for Jews to have their own state.

Another perfect example of how the term Zionism is misused for no other reason than to give the term an evil connotattion and to demonize Israel. I have said many times that the concept of Zionism has been bastardized and nobody should accept it when it is used to infer evil.

Thanks for proving my point. Creating an ethnostate is creating an ethnostate and is not Zionism in and of itself.

It's the same as saying that Israel is apartheid and that they have committed genocide. Anything to demonize Israel seems to be acceptable, including creating new definitions and standards for previously accepted terms.

 

[PeterParker1000]

Zionism is the desire for Jews to have their own state.

Another perfect example of how the term Zionism is misused for no other reason than to give the term an evil connotattion and to demonize Israel. I have said many times that the concept of Zionism has been bastardized and nobody should accept it when it is used to infer evil.

Thanks for proving my point. Creating an ethnostate is creating an ethnostate and is not Zionism in and of itself.

It's the same as saying that Israel is apartheid and that they have committed genocide. Anything to demonize Israel seems to be acceptable, including creating new definitions and standards for previously accepted terms.

Careful, you say Zionism 5 times, Frankfooter shows up. You were barely safe on that one.

 

[shack]

Americans may tire of sending their young to die for Israel.

How many Americans soldiers died fighting Hamas on Israel's behalf since Oct. 7.

What's the current tally of how many innocent Americans died going to a music festival or were captured as hostages? What will be the final tally be once all the hostages and bodies are returned.

Until you have some numbers to back up your "theory" you should stop with the racist posts.

How many American soldiers have died fighting on Israel's behalf southpaw?