"Iran cannot have nukes" Trump warns

[PeterParker1000]

I think you know that your argumentation is weak. There was a non nuclear agreement with plenty of inspections by Americans. Iran was not enriching Uranium to high levels before Trump cancelled the agreement.

Forget the nuclear weapons for a second.

Iran can not amass funds and resources. They are basically a terrorist group by themselves.

My argument was not weak. We are approaching this from two different viewpoints. I approach it by seeing who are Americas biggest threats and how can we have cripple them.

 

[Klatuu]

The US...to end a war. 80 years ago.
Which nation would you trust with having nuclear strike capability today and why or why not?

You answered the question for me.

 

[nottyboi]

Iran should just bite the bullet and test a bomb in the Arabian sea. Until then no one will leave them alone. Iran is divided and weak will all kinds of 5th columns Shah sympathizers etc. I fully expect they will be couped in the not to distant future. Israel attacked them and they make empty threats. They have a president that is a western dupe. They are the last country on the infmaous list. Maybe not during Trumps admin but within the next 10 years they will be taken out.

 

[Skoob]

You answered the question for me.

You mean you trust Iran with nukes more than the US because the US used them to end a war 80 years ago and Iran would never consider using them?

 

[richaceg]

Hold your horses. He did not say he wanted Iran to have nuclear weapons. I think he meant that it is inevitable, and understandable. Iran is every week being threatened with annihilation. If it had or has nuclear weapons, maybe Israel and USA would be more careful with their threats. Have you noticed that North Korea is not being threatened.

And for funding of terrorist groups, USA is probably up there with Iran.

who's threatening Iran?

 

[shack]

Who has used them?

Poorly worded.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

You think those Iran plays by the rules? He squeezed their resources and they were suffering. Obama and Biden gave them life to produce these nukes.

That is factually false. Iran was not developing nukes after they signed the Nuclear Arms Deal: there were inspectors in place to verify they were adhering to the deal.

Trump cancelled the deal; now the Iranians are developing nukes again.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Iran has been striving to develop nukes since the 80's.
So perhaps put your TDS aside and think about your answer and try again.

Yeah…and then Obama negotiated the Nuclear Arms deal and they stopped developing nukes…then Trump cancelled the deal and now Iran is developing nukes again.

PS: As a point of clarity, “TDS” was a thing Trump Supporters invented after Trump left office- the claim was that Trump’s critics were so obsessed with him that they couldn’t stop thinking about him even though he was no longer in office and (supposedly) no longer a threat to anyone. Now that he is back in office there can be no such thing as “TDS” as he perpetrates his crazy bullshit.

Anyway…it’s neither here nor there. At this point, claiming “TDS” is just a lazy, weak-minded retort from Trump Supporters who lack the ability to engage with reality and facts and resort to smears and ad hominem attacks on those who present them with info they are not able to engage with.

 

[PeterParker1000]

That is factually false. Iran was not developing nukes after they signed the Nuclear Arms Deal: there were inspectors in place to verify they were adhering to the deal.

Trump cancelled the deal; now the Iranians are developing nukes again.

Trump cancelled the deal because it was a bad deal. If all went to plan, Trump could have squeezed their country into a dire situation.

Biden and his handler Obama did not follow this and let Iran grow rich again while also stockpiling enriched Uranium. At this point Trump has no choice other than diplomacy rather than his original plan of hurting Iran.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Trump cancelled the deal because it was a bad deal. If all went to plan, Trump could have squeezed their country into a dire situation.

Biden and his handler Obama did not follow this and let Iran grow rich again while also stockpiling enriched Uranium. At this point Trump has no choice other than diplomacy rather than his original plan of hurting Iran.

Why didn’t he squeeze Iran and get a better deal with Iran during his first term? I’ll give you the answer: it’s because Trump is impulsive and did not think it through. He only cancelled the deal because Obama made it; he had no plan beyond it.

Also:
Why was it Biden’s responsibility to negotiate a new nuclear deal after Trump cancelled the last one? Do you really think the Iranians are going to be open to signing a new deal with the US when the US abruptly and unilaterally trashed the last deal they signed.

Actions have consequences. There is a reason that American presidents have historically honoured the deals and treaties signed by their predecessors- when you don’t, other nations will not want to make deals with the US anymore because they have become erratic and untrustworthy.

 

[Valcazar]

Why didn’t he squeeze Iran and get a better deal with Iran during his first term? I’ll give you the answer: it’s because Trump is impulsive and did not think it through. He only cancelled the deal because Obama made it; he had no plan beyond it.

I don't think that's true.
There was the "Maximum Pressure" campaign.
I believe most people who have analyzed it have judged it a failure that made things worse.

This may be a case where the problem wasn't "Trump didn't have a plan" so much as "Trump had a bad plan".

 

[oil&gas]

Islamic terrorist supporter, noted.

Who says terrorist supporter can't have nukes?

Here is one state in the Middle East which supports terrorists and has won
their love.

Al-Qaeda-linked 'rebels' in Syria say they 'love Israel'. USA gave them billions in weapons & support - Geopolitical Economy Report

US CIA spent billions arming, training militants in Syria, linked to Al-Qaeda and ISIS. Extremist "rebels" in Aleppo and Idlib "love Israel".

geopoliticaleconomy.com

The US spent billions over years arming and training militants in Syria, many linked to Al-Qaeda and ISIS. The extremist “rebels” who took over the country told the Israeli media they “love Israel”........

Lol, this dork wants Iran to have nuclear weapons. Did you get hit in the head this morning.

Our goal is to topple the Iranian dictatorship. It is a large source of funding for most terror groups and you want them to have nuclear weapons.

 

[danmand]

Deranged senators are demanding that USA bomb Iran to smithereens, but do not demand the same fate for North Korea.

Any lesson here?

 

[PeterParker1000]

Deranged senators are demanding that USA bomb Iran to smithereens, but do not demand the same fate for North Korea.

Any lesson here?

Go after the oil.

 

[danmand]

Go after the oil.

Too late now. Russia has sowed it up.

 

[oil&gas]

who's threatening Iran?

In a region as volatile as the Middle East it is unwise for a
state to plan for acquiring nukes only when it is under threat.
When Iraq was bombed by Israel in an unprovoked attack back
in 1981 it was actually in friendly term with the U.S. And we know
the fate Iraq suffered later when it was no longer an U.S. ally.
And we also know what happened to Syria's military infrastructures
at a time when it was defenceless. Acquisition of nukes is only
the logical thing to do for Iran, Syria and other states to safeguard
national security,

 

[richaceg]

In a region as volatile as the Middle East it is unwise for a
state to plan for acquiring nukes only when it is under threat.
When Iraq was bombed by Israel in an unprovoked attack back
in 1981 it was actually in friendly term with the U.S. And we know
the fate Iraq suffered later when it was no longer an U.S. ally.
And we also know what happened to Syria's military infrastructures
at a time when it was defenceless. Acquisition of nukes is only
the logical thing to do for Iran, Syria and other states to safeguard
national security,

was that a nuke? no. Israel having Nukes is why it's still existing today. AGain, who's threatening Iran? They never had nukes since the 80s

 

[oil&gas]

By the time Iran is ready to confirm what threat it has to take on it will
be too late.

Report: Incoming Trump officials mulling attack on Iran

This conflicts with other voices, including the incoming vice president, who have urged restraint

responsiblestatecraft.org

 

[Vinson]

The thread just goes to show you Terb is packed with Islamic terrorist supporters and crazy left/anarchists.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

was that a nuke? no. Israel having Nukes is why it's still existing today. AGain, who's threatening Iran? They never had nukes since the 80s

Lots of countries are hostile towards Iran including the US and Israel not to mention Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and most of the other Sunni Muslim countries. I can understand why the Iranians feel under threat because they are…which imho makes it all the more important that they NOT be able to develop nukes because they very well might use them.