International Holocaust Remembrance Day

[Frankfooter]

This discussion began when I said that you'd never made a post condemning an act of Pali violence as terrorism. All you did was subsequently make a new post.

You said I hadn't made a post.
I made a post showing you wrong.
Then you changed the terms.

I want my initial question to be properly answered first and honestly.

Fine, I'll answer it as soon as you post the original question with a working link.

Until then, this part of the 'discussion' is done.
Time for you to answer why you repeatedly post racist comments, defend apartheid, refuse to call out Israeli violence like using snipers on children and why you've been trying the same tactics here since 2015.

Why do you defend apartheid?

Israel's apartheid against Palestinians

Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...

www.amnesty.org

 

[Klatuu]

More idiocy from you. Can't you read?

I want my initial question to be properly answered first and honestly. He posted something after I'd challenged him which is inappropriate since I'd stated that he HAD never posted blah, blah, blah not that he WILL never post blah, blah blah. So now I'm right for the 54th time.

I said that then maybe we can move on to other topics. Weren't you supposed help him find one of those quotes

I made this all clear numerous times. And you accuse me of playing dumb? Hahaha

Wonderful. Now let’s test if you are playing dumb or relying on your Darwin Award winning strategy of not answering the same questions you demand of others.

Simply answer this:

Oh shucks shack….why do you think basketcase corroborates what Frankfooter said? He’s no fan of Frankfooter.

 

[shack]

You said I hadn't made a post.
I made a post showing you wrong.
Then you changed the terms.

I've explained a dozen times why that post is invalid.

Fine, I'll answer it as soon as you post the original question with a working link.

I already asked it, which is why you replied at the time.

Until then, this part of the 'discussion' is done.

I can see why you'd like to move on. You are cornered because you have no previous posts condemning any particular Pali violence. You may make the occasional grand statement of condemning violence on either side, but any time a particular event is reported, you never condemn it.

My position has been consistent. My point was not about politics or policies or the history of the region or discrimination etc.

My point focussed on YOUR POSTING HISTORY, nothing else. So asking me about all the other stuff is off topic and diversionary. I made a claim about you and you have not been able to produce a single post that proves I was wrong. It's actually a simple task to shut me up for such a super smart guy with advanced tech skills.

 

[Frankfooter]

I've explained a dozen times why that post is invalid.

I already asked it, which is why you replied at the time.

I can see why you'd like to move on. You are cornered because you have no previous posts condemning any particular Pali violence. You may make the occasional grand statement of condemning violence on either side, but any time a particular event is reported, you never condemn it.

My position has been consistent. My point was not about politics or policies or the history of the region or discrimination etc.

My point focussed on YOUR POSTING HISTORY, nothing else. So asking me about all the other stuff is off topic and diversionary. I made a claim about you and you have not been able to produce a single post that proves I was wrong. It's actually a simple task to shut me up for such a super smart guy with advanced tech skills.

Post the original question and my reply, shack.
I challenge you.

I want my initial question to be properly answered first and honestly.

Do it.
Are you afraid of being exposed as a bullshitter or totally unable to search the post and post a reply with a link?
Do it.

 

[Frankfooter]

You may make the occasional grand statement of condemning violence on either side, but any time a particular event is reported, you never condemn it.

This is an easily disprove lie, shack.
Click here for proof.

I'd also like to point out that I've given you about 50 chances to condemn Israeli apartheid and the intentional, state ordered, use of snipers on children protesting for human rights.
You have refused to condemn any act by Israel repeatedly on this board, which makes you a total hypocrite with a history of racist posts in defence of Israeli apartheid.

Tell me why basketcase's description doesn't apply to you?

Only racist scum think self defence includes attacking civilians who were not engaged in acts of violence.

 

[basketcase]

Tell us how you think this is good and that I should cheer for it the way you and shack do.
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Wow, your attempts to deflect from your overt anti-semitism in a thread about the Holocaust are as usual pathetic. You have a long history of justification of terrorism and promotion of anti-semitic conspiracy theories and keep trying to claim Jews are valid targets for criticism about Israel.

You also have a clear elitist racist view of Arabs in your inability to hold them accountable for their choices and demanding they do your will despite clearly hating the idea.

 

[basketcase]

Even basketcase says you're bullshitting.
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Basketcase says every few years you are forced to admit that there are Palestinians who commit terrorism but then go on to try and blame Jews for it.

Then you go right back to claiming terror attacks from Palestinians are somehow self defence, completely contradicting the rights groups you pretend to support.

The most pathetic part is that at no time do your rare admissions of problems among Palestinian leadership make you even briefly consider that Palestinian leadership contribute to the lack of peace and human rights.

I have repeatedly condemned terrorism from extremist Israeli settlers and have condemned extremists in Israeli leadership positions. You on the other hand are 100% motivated only by demonizing Israel. You have proven that you have no interest in peace and no interest in advancing thr conditions or the Palestinian people. Your only motivation is hatred of Jews being in the Middle East and are willing to promote destruction, ethnic cleansing, the most vile authoritarian governments simply to further your own obsessive hatred.

 

[Frankfooter]

Wow, your attempts to deflect from your overt anti-semitism in a thread about the Holocaust are as usual pathetic. You have a long history of justification of terrorism and promotion of anti-semitic conspiracy theories and keep trying to claim Jews are valid targets for criticism about Israel.

You also have a clear elitist racist view of Arabs in your inability to hold them accountable for their choices and demanding they do your will despite clearly hating the idea.

No, you are lying your face off.
I argue for equal rights, the end of apartheid and application of international law.
That's all.

I challenge you to prove your claims, conspiracy theories and your claim about targeting civilians.
Prove it.

 

[Frankfooter]

I have repeatedly condemned terrorism from extremist Israeli settlers and have condemned extremists in Israeli leadership positions.

No, you condemn 1/100 settler attacks and never condemn the Israeli government.
Never.
Feel free to find the posts that deny these statements.

I'll just start with a repost here.
You have repeatedly defended Israel's targeting of civilians at the March of Return, including the use of snipers to intentionally cripple children with the use of exploding bullets.

Go ahead and prove me right and you the liar.
Unless you are now willing to call out these acts:

Only racist scum think self defence includes attacking civilians who were not engaged in acts of violence.

 

[basketcase]

No, you condemn 1/100 settler attacks and never condemn the Israeli government.
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Wow your claims are stupid attempts to justify your overt antisemitism.

I know you want me to condemn Israel for shooting back at gunmen while desperately trying to avoid calling it terrorism when Palestinian extremists choose to attack Jewish civilians.

 

[basketcase]

No, you are lying your face off.
I argue for equal rights, the end of apartheid and application of international law.
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So why is it you argue Jews simply being in the West Bank makes them legitimate targets and say Jews quietly visiting their holy site is an attack? Why do you keep claiming Jews are illegitimate colonizers (while happily living in a real colonial entity)?

Not to mention believing in equal rights is contradicted by your refusal to give Palestinians and Israelis the right to completely detest the farce you want them forced into.

 

[Frankfooter]

Wow your claims are stupid attempts to justify your overt antisemitism.

I know you want me to condemn Israel for shooting back at gunmen while desperately trying to avoid calling it terrorism when Palestinian extremists choose to attack Jewish civilians.

There were 144 settler attacks in one night after the Jerusalem attack.
You called out one.

Are you now calling settlers who attack Palestinians 'civilians'?

Israeli settlers carry out 144 attacks against Palestinians in one day

Israel has also begun with the demolition of Palestinian homes in the Jabal Al-Mukabber neighborhood of east occupied Jerusalem in an act of collective punishment

thecradle.co

 

[Frankfooter]

So why is it you argue Jews simply being in the West Bank makes them legitimate targets and say Jews quietly visiting their holy site is an attack?

So much in that one sentence.

First, you claim that the Al Aqsa is now owned by Israel or its Jewish population.
Second, you claim armed settlers backed by the IDF are 'quietly visiting'.
Third, you ignore previous treaties and Israelis breaking those treaties.

That's the epitome of settler colonialism in one sentence, basketcase.
You just argued that Palestinians have no rights living in land recognized as their occupied homeland.

It all comes back to your arguments that Israel can keep whatever land they can steal by force. That settlements 'aren't the problem', that taking people's homes by force is ok if they are Palestinians.
Its about as blatantly racist and colonial as it comes here, basketcase.

Just like shack, who appears to have run away after being caught lying.
No wonder you think its racist to say 'free Palestine', you seem to think that Palestine is free only for 'settlers'.

The past is the past and it's been so long it is END OF STORY. No right of return or land claims for the Arabs.

There should be a negotiated two state peace but there is no giving "back" land.

 

[shack]

Just like shack, who appears to have run away after being caught lying.

Hardly. My debate with you was strictly about your posting history and using a timeline, I have irrefutably proved my point.

But you keep lying and changing the topic and looking for proof of things that you'd previously accepted.

If you want to prove me wrong, all you have to do is produce one post prior to my challenge, where you condemn a particular Pali act of violence as terror. Go ahead. I dare you.

Until you do, you lose and I'm done with you.

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[Frankfooter]

Hardly. My debate with you was strictly about your posting history and using a timeline, I have irrefutably proved my point.

But you keep lying and changing the topic and looking for proof of things that you'd previously accepted.

If you want to prove me wrong, all you have to do is produce one post prior to my challenge, where you condemn a particular Pali act of violence as terror. Go ahead. I dare you.

Until you do, you lose and I'm done with you.

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You have been proven to be lying about my posts.
You lied right here.

You make false accusations, I back mine up.
You are lying about my posts, you are an untrustworthy proven racist.

By the way, this is the correct way to post a gif:

Meanwhile, Israel shot 82 people today, killing 10.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/west-bank-violence-1.6756040

 

[Klatuu]

You have been proven to be lying about my posts.
You lied right here.

You make false accusations, I back mine up.
You are lying about my posts, you are an untrustworthy proven racist.

By the way, this is the correct way to post a gif:

Meanwhile, Israel shot 82 people today, killing 10.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/west-bank-violence-1.6756040

Now 102 wounded. Unbelievable.

 

[Klatuu]

Until you do, you lose and I'm done with you.

You can’t get much more pathetic than this.

 

[basketcase]

There were 144 settler attacks in one night after the Jerusalem attack.
You called out one.
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Are these 144 'attacks' things like Israel trying to arrest terror suspects?

It's amazing that you're even trying to challenge me on how often I condemn some Israelis or the Israeli government considering your lengthy history of making excuses for Hamas, PFLP, PIJ, etc. The only thing you've ever said critical of Palestinian leadership is when you complain that the PA is preventing Hamas from ruling.

 

[basketcase]

So much in that one sentence.

First, you claim that the Al Aqsa is now owned by Israel or its Jewish population.
Second, you claim armed settlers backed by the IDF are 'quietly visiting'.
Third, you ignore previous treaties and Israelis breaking those treaties.
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You love making up your own reality when your arguments have been exposed as farcical hatred.

Israel controls Jerusalem according to the peace treaty with Jordan. Israel has ceded religious management of Al Aqsa/Temple Mount to the Jordanian WAQF. The WAQF allows non-Muslims to visit at certain specified hours. This is just another case where you ignore what Arab Muslims say.

Amazing you claim it is supporting equal rights to say the Muslim caretakers aren't allowed to give Jews permission to walk around Judaism's holiest site on occasion and instead you push religious incitement. Another example is you believing there is "Palestinian land" but no such thing as "Jewish land". Just like you demand Palestinian self determination (while ignoring what they want) and rejecting self determination for Jews.

And just like your unwillingness to listen to or give agency to Arabs; Jordan and Israel signed a peace treaty giving Israel control of the West Bank. That treaty says that a Palestinian state is to be negotiated based on that land. Sadly you keep supporting groups like Hamas who choose violence and reject the idea of pushing both sides to negotiate peace.

 

[basketcase]

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Meanwhile, Israel shot 82 people today, killing 10.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/west-bank-violence-1.6756040

Of course you think it's wrong that Israel tried to arrest terror suspects and think it's a good thing that Palestinian gunmen shot at them. I'm sure you guys are salivating at the death toll as it feeds your hate campaign.