International Holocaust Remembrance Day

[basketcase]

This coming from the guy who calls 'Defence of Children International' 'terrorists'?
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Weren't you just complaining that people call you a liar? Then you come out with transparent bullshit claims like this.

PFLP is a terrorist group and several high ranking members of it are also active in DCIP. As I said, I don't know if they are terrorists who also try to run a (sort of) aid group in their spare time or if they are actively using it as a front but their roles in DCIP and PFLP are indisputable.


Of course you won't even admit that PFLP is a terror group.

 

[basketcase]

There were a few exceptions who did not collaborate with the Nazis.
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What I find worse is countries like Poland who have made it illegal to admit that some of their people collaborated. They obviously went to the same school of propaganda as the GOP.

 

[basketcase]

Yes, you're trolling and you're lying.
I provided two denunciations then you changed the terms and demanded that they be 'previous' posts.
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And still refuse to admit the synagogue attack, the shooting of two men walking the street, or the drive by on a restaurant were terrorism. Instead you keep trying to pretend that Israel trying to arrest the assailants is terrorism.

 

[basketcase]

You got some explaining to do.



This is Islamophobia 101.

Are you saying Islamic scripture doesn't have verses condemning Jews? Are you saying that Arab leaders and media weren't widely promoting the idea of driving Jews into the Sea instead of agreeing to Partition?

Yes, there are Koranic verses that also preach tolerance and there are some Arab leaders who promoted co-existence but what he said is fairly factual. Is it now racist to point out that some Palestinians (such as Hamas and PIJ) are driven by a religious motivation to either subjugate or rid the region of Jews?


But what can we expect from someone who thinks it's okay to vandalize Jewish property, blaming non-Israeli Jews for what other Jews are doing?

 

[Frankfooter]

Did you post them for the 1st time before or after I said you'd never denounced Pali acts of aggression against Israel?

You didn't say that in your original 'demand', you're lying.
Why would I honour any demand now that you've changed your terms after I met your demand and now you're lying about it?

I denounced terrorism, you didn't.
I support equal rights, you don't.
85% of Canadians support my views.
All you support is apartheid.

Klatuu nailed you.
You're here trolling as a racist.

WHAT IS ANTI-PALESTINIAN RACISM?
Anti-Palestinian racism is a form of anti-Arab racism that silences, excludes, erases, stereotypes, defames or dehumanizes Palestinians or their narratives. Anti-Palestinian racism takes various forms including: denying the Nakba and justifying violence against Palestinians; failing to acknowledge Palestinians as an Indigenous people with a collective identity, belonging and rights in relation to occupied and historic Palestine; erasing the human rights and equal dignity and worth of Palestinians; excluding or pressuring others to exclude Palestinian perspectives, Palestinians and their allies; defaming Palestinians and their allies with slander such as being inherently antisemitic, a terrorist threat/sympathizer or opposed to democratic values.

 

[Frankfooter]

More of your bullshit wanting to force Palestinians to do your will.

How colonial of you.
You back an apartheid colonial movement.

I back the Palestinian BDS movement.

You are the one wanting to force Palestinians to live under your terms.
Apartheid.

Israel's apartheid against Palestinians

Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...

www.amnesty.org

 

[Frankfooter]

And still refuse to admit the synagogue attack, the shooting of two men walking the street, or the drive by on a restaurant were terrorism. Instead you keep trying to pretend that Israel trying to arrest the assailants is terrorism.

You're lying again.
I'll prove it as soon as you promise you'll apologize when I show you're wrong.
But you won't agree to be honourable, will you?

 

[shack]

You didn't say that in your original 'demand', you're lying.

I didn't have to.

I said that "you had never denounced.... And then asked for examples where you had. How could that be anything other than in the past? Even you can't lie enough to say otherwise.

Here's one for you.

Jerusalem: Two dead including child as car rams people at bus stop | CNN

Will you denounce this as a terror attack?

 

[Frankfooter]

I didn't have to.

I said that "you had never denounced.... How could that be anything other than in the past? Even you can't lie enough to say otherwise.

Here's one for you.

Jerusalem: Two dead including child as car rams people at bus stop | CNN

Will you denounce this as a terror attack?

Prove it, post the original statement and my original reply.
But you won't, because you are lying and you've been caught lying.

That car ramming is likely terrorism, which can be firmly confirmed if there are legit third party investigations.

But it didn't happen in Israel, from your CNN article (which isn't a justification for targeting civilians):
It is on land that Israel captured from Jordan in 1967 and then annexed, so Palestinians and many international observers consider it to be a settlement on occupied land.

Haaretz also reports this about the assailant:
The driver was shot dead at the scene by an off-duty police officer. He was identified as Hussein Qaraqe, 31-year-old a father of three. According to a Palestinian source from Isawiyah, he had been renting an apartment in the East Jerusalem neighborhood for the past five years. His mother is a resident of A-Tur in East Jerusalem, and his father hails from the Dheisha refugee camp, near Bethlehem. The source added that Qaraqe was injured in an accident at a construction site six months ago and never recovered; his mental health was poor.

They also reported this:
A Yeshiva student who was at the scene said: "For about a minute, several people with guns stood around the vehicle and pointed at the driver, but did not shoot. The driver made a sign with his hands as if to say 'no,' and everyone held their fire. At some point, someone threw a large stone at the vehicle, the attacker moved, and everyone fired at him."

That's messed up.

That also makes 4 denunciations of Palestinian terrorism since your original claim.
Meanwhile you refuse to condemn apartheid or Israeli terrorism.

So far in 2023, IOF attacks killed 43 Palestinians, including 19 civilians; 7 of them were children, and the rest were members of the Palestinian armed groups, including a child, while 3 were killed by settlers allegedly for carrying out shooting and stabbing attacks. Meanwhile, dozens were injured in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem

You have also refused to call out using snipers to shoot children protesting for human rights.
As your partner basketcase posted:

Only racist scum think self defence includes attacking civilians who were not engaged in acts of violence.

 

[shack]

Prove it, post the original statement and my original reply.
But you won't, because you are lying and you've been caught lying.

If you're accusing me of lying then it's up to you to prove it.

 

[Frankfooter]

If you're accusing me of lying then it's up to you to prove it.

That also applies to when you accused me of lying when I said I have previously condemned Palestinian terrorism, doesn't it?
Game. Set. Match.

Now that we've ended that line of argument its time for you answer why you won't condemn Israeli apartheid and terrorism.

A Threshold Crossed

The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...

www.hrw.org

 

[shack]

That also applies to when you accused me of lying when I said I have previously condemned Palestinian terrorism, doesn't it?

Still waiting for proof from my original challenge. All you do is run away and change the topic. You fool nobody.

We know what you are.

 

[Frankfooter]

Still waiting for proof from my original challenge. All you do is run away and change the topic. You fool nobody.

We know what you are.

I answered your original challenge directly and honestly.
If you are calling me a liar, its up to you to prove it.

If you're accusing me of lying then it's up to you to prove it.

As for this 'know what you are' nonsense.
This is what we directly can see from your posts.

The past is the past and it's been so long it is END OF STORY. No right of return or land claims for the Arabs.

You won't even use the term 'Palestinian' or 'Palestine'.
WHAT IS ANTI-PALESTINIAN RACISM?
The ACLA’s report proposes the following “description” of anti-Palestinian racism:

Anti-Palestinian racism is a form of anti-Arab racism that silences, excludes, erases, stereotypes, defames or dehumanizes Palestinians or their narratives. Anti-Palestinian racism takes various forms including:

• denying the Nakba and justifying violence against Palestinians;
• failing to acknowledge Palestinians as an Indigenous people with a collective identity, belonging and rights in relation to occupied and historic Palestine;
• erasing the human rights and equal dignity and worth of Palestinians;
• excluding or pressuring others to exclude Palestinian perspectives, Palestinians and their allies;
• defaming Palestinians and their allies with slander such as being inherently antisemitic, a terrorist threat/sympathizer or opposed to democratic values.[1]

Nor will you call out apartheid or Israeli terrorism.

Join me in calling for equal rights and sanctions to deescalate and peacefully end apartheid.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1622926089126387712

 

[mitchell76]

I answered your original challenge directly and honestly.
If you are calling me a liar, its up to you to prove it.




As for this 'know what you are' nonsense.
This is what we directly can see from your posts.



You won't even use the term 'Palestinian' or 'Palestine'.
WHAT IS ANTI-PALESTINIAN RACISM?
The ACLA’s report proposes the following “description” of anti-Palestinian racism:
Anti-Palestinian racism is a form of anti-Arab racism that silences, excludes, erases, stereotypes, defames or dehumanizes Palestinians or their narratives. Anti-Palestinian racism takes various forms including:

• denying the Nakba and justifying violence against Palestinians;
• failing to acknowledge Palestinians as an Indigenous people with a collective identity, belonging and rights in relation to occupied and historic Palestine;
• erasing the human rights and equal dignity and worth of Palestinians;
• excluding or pressuring others to exclude Palestinian perspectives, Palestinians and their allies;
• defaming Palestinians and their allies with slander such as being inherently antisemitic, a terrorist threat/sympathizer or opposed to democratic values.[1]

Nor will you call out apartheid or Israeli terrorism.

Join me in calling for equal rights and sanctions to deescalate and peacefully end apartheid.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1622926089126387712

Kind of a hypocritical statement, seeing that AOC, and the rest of the "squad", are a bunch of anti-semite's themselves.

The Squad’s Noxious Anti-Semitism

In 2019, after public outcry over anti-Semitic remarks made by Rep. Ilhan Omar, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi refused to mete out any consequences to the Democratic “Squad” member. Instead, she

www.commentary.org

 

[Frankfooter]

Kind of a hypocritical statement, seeing that AOC, and the rest of the "squad", are a bunch of anti-semite's themselves.

The Squad’s Noxious Anti-Semitism

In 2019, after public outcry over anti-Semitic remarks made by Rep. Ilhan Omar, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi refused to mete out any consequences to the Democratic “Squad” member. Instead, she

www.commentary.org

Except to the Israel supporters anyone who doesn't support apartheid is antisemitic.
That now includes 85% of Canadians and the NDP and Greens.

 

[Klatuu]

Kind of a hypocritical statement, seeing that AOC, and the rest of the "squad", are a bunch of anti-semite's themselves.

The Squad’s Noxious Anti-Semitism

In 2019, after public outcry over anti-Semitic remarks made by Rep. Ilhan Omar, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi refused to mete out any consequences to the Democratic “Squad” member. Instead, she

www.commentary.org

There isn’t a single iota of evidence of antisemitism in that article. But the article certainly tried to set a world record for the number of times it mentions antisemitism.

 

[Frankfooter]

There isn’t a single iota of evidence of antisemitism in that article. But the article certainly tried to set a world record for the number of times it mentions antisemitism.

I think it would be hard to outdo these threads use of the word, basketcase and shack are surely world record calibre.

 

[Klatuu]

You didn't say that in your original 'demand', you're lying.
Why would I honour any demand now that you've changed your terms after I met your demand and now you're lying about it?

I denounced terrorism, you didn't.
I support equal rights, you don't.
85% of Canadians support my views.
All you support is apartheid.

Klatuu nailed you.
You're here trolling as a racist.

WHAT IS ANTI-PALESTINIAN RACISM?
Anti-Palestinian racism is a form of anti-Arab racism that silences, excludes, erases, stereotypes, defames or dehumanizes Palestinians or their narratives. Anti-Palestinian racism takes various forms including: denying the Nakba and justifying violence against Palestinians; failing to acknowledge Palestinians as an Indigenous people with a collective identity, belonging and rights in relation to occupied and historic Palestine; erasing the human rights and equal dignity and worth of Palestinians; excluding or pressuring others to exclude Palestinian perspectives, Palestinians and their allies; defaming Palestinians and their allies with slander such as being inherently antisemitic, a terrorist threat/sympathizer or opposed to democratic values.

More sad shack anti Palestinian posts:

He probably knows some Palestinians who make sure that hate of Israel/Jews is ingrained in their culture.

Your words are your rep.

 

[Klatuu]

I answered your original challenge directly and honestly.
If you are calling me a liar, its up to you to prove it.




As for this 'know what you are' nonsense.
This is what we directly can see from your posts.



You won't even use the term 'Palestinian' or 'Palestine'.
WHAT IS ANTI-PALESTINIAN RACISM?
The ACLA’s report proposes the following “description” of anti-Palestinian racism:
Anti-Palestinian racism is a form of anti-Arab racism that silences, excludes, erases, stereotypes, defames or dehumanizes Palestinians or their narratives. Anti-Palestinian racism takes various forms including:

• denying the Nakba and justifying violence against Palestinians;
• failing to acknowledge Palestinians as an Indigenous people with a collective identity, belonging and rights in relation to occupied and historic Palestine;
• erasing the human rights and equal dignity and worth of Palestinians;
• excluding or pressuring others to exclude Palestinian perspectives, Palestinians and their allies;
• defaming Palestinians and their allies with slander such as being inherently antisemitic, a terrorist threat/sympathizer or opposed to democratic values.[1]

Nor will you call out apartheid or Israeli terrorism.

Join me in calling for equal rights and sanctions to deescalate and peacefully end apartheid.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1622926089126387712

These would make laugh if they weren’t so needy and pathetic. Here he demands praise for Israel:

Like I said, you have no posts praising Israel.

I knew there wouldn't be any by you praising Isreal.

You are quite the fanatic.

 

[Frankfooter]

These would make laugh if they weren’t so needy and pathetic. Here he demands praise for Israel:




You are quite the fanatic.

'Praising Israel'.

Shack has quite the history on this board, doesn't he?
Perhaps we should put together a 'lets all celebrate apartheid' thread to really do a proper praising.