Simply shows his grasp of economics is on the same level as yours,...none existent.
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Indian residential schools
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He must be referring to the perks of high infant mortality, limited-to-no access to doctors, high incidence of alcoholism, abuse, suicide etc, substandard living conditions in many reserves, so on and so forth that people get to "enjoy" in many Native communities.
Have a link to that previous post?
There is no such post.
Maybe you are mixing me up with someone else, in which case your mixup is offensive and you should apologize. Either that or you are wholesale making things up.
As for the present discussion I wager that poor Irish children in Canada still had a higher survival rate than native children in residential schools. Not sure where we can get the data but if we can I bet it will show it was better to be Irish then native at any point in Canadian history.
I think if you are going to compare natives to other races it should be American blacks.
They have had similar shitty pasts and are still struggling.
There is a massive difference between immigrating to a country versus being systemically dominated.
Do you honestly believe they are just lazy?!?
Do you know anyone who has taught at a mainly native school? First off the turn over of teachers is high cause conditions suck. The kids often have messed up home lives. You basically stsrt life with two strikes...... poor education and tough environment.
They have had similar shitty pasts and are still struggling.
There is a massive difference between immigrating to a country versus being systemically dominated.
Do you honestly believe they are just lazy?!?
Do you know anyone who has taught at a mainly native school? First off the turn over of teachers is high cause conditions suck. The kids often have messed up home lives. You basically stsrt life with two strikes...... poor education and tough environment.
For once we agree.
At any point in history i would rather be Irish than native......except for before white people showed up in north America.
The plight of the irish pales to natives, blacks, Jews, Chinese railworkers.
I would wager that 99.9% of aboriginals can trace their root back to what later became Canada. How many current day blacks can trace their root back to a slave? No Canadian black can trace their root back to a Canadian slave. In fact, it appears that most blacks in Toronto and Montreal voluntarily immigrated here from the Caribbean.
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How is it possible to be this stupid yet capable of typing?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_Railroad
Oh. I see. I didn't realise that slaves that escaped to Canada didn't count. Derp on then, my friend. Derp on.
Shit, it looks like there was slavery in Canada or what later became Canada.
"Slavery within Canada's current geography was practised primarily by Aboriginal groups." But, escaped American slaves were free men and women in Canada.
Why would we need a separate link? This thread is only 3 pages long so easy enough to verify
Your claim was Indians were abused in the modern era whereas blacks were abused generations ago (which I mocked as black slavery is a far larger issue than the indian schools)
Count me amongst the confused
So a person who was never a slave in Canada is the same thing as a person enslaved by the US?
Either way his original stats are correct; if a mere 6,000 black slaves came to Canada that would equal a very small percent of current black citizens (over 945,000 at current count)
And that's using your own links
There certainly are more than 6,000 indians in the country
It is confusing when he edits something after being caught out in his derpitude. His original statement, obviously flat out wrong, was that "No Canadian black can trace their root back to a slave." No one of Jamaican decent, American, etc. *
His new, improved point is valid I suppose. And irrelevant. Way fucking irrelevant considering how much drift we're having from the original thread topic.
*An idiotic point and a rather revealing choice of phrasing (not "No black Canadian" or even "No Canadian black person", but "No Canadian black". But hey, at least it isn't quite as dehumanizing as using "darkies" so, baby steps, baby steps)
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And not one of the original 6000 ever had children,...and their children didn't have children,...that's amazing,...
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Oh I would expect at least an average of 3 kids per family back in the day, possibly 4
So assuming every slave married a non slave over 3 generations there are (assuming no deaths) nearly 10% of current population having a direct line to slavery
Problem with this is any sane person knows more than 10% of current indian population (+ metis populations) would be able to trace a direct line to their past
As with your dual citizen concerns it all depends what you mean by Canadian. Britain didn't abolish slavery across the empire until 1833, so it seems entirely possible there were enslaved Africans native-born in the Canadas.
Canada as a country didn't exist until 1867. Anyways, I really don't want to get into another one of these circular debates.
As I'm sure everyone knows in Upper Canada the Act Against Slavery of 1793 provided for gradual abolition in Upper Canada: no new slaves could be brought into Upper Canada, and children born to female slaves would be slaves but must be freed at age 25, slaves already in Upper Canada would remain enslaved until death.
Nova Scotia thrice in 1787, 1789 and 1808 refused to legalize slavery, and by 1814 there were almost no slaves left in the Colony.
Further, by 1800 slavery had effectively though court rulings been limited (principally by requiring very strict proof of ownership, which owners seldom had) in the other British North American Colonies.
My post said the people responsible for residential schools and the victims were still alive, unlike with slavery. I said nothing about slaves being well cared for.
Nice try lying, though..
As for whether slavery was a bigger problem than the treatment of natives, the jury is out, but trying to pick a "winner" between two catastrophes like that is something like holding a beauty contest in the burn victim ward of a hospital.
You clearly have some sort of chip on your shoulder around proving which group can claim to have the most excuses for poor behavior. I will just let you stew in that.
