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CLOUD 500

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You should be thanking them. Unless you would prefer to be working 60 hour weeks for less wages, no benefits, no labour laws, and bully gangs to beat on you.
Hmm... The last time I checked it is common for people in Toronto to work two jobs? Some even three jobs? The rents are so high that is the only way to afford things. Thanks to Trudeau and his mass immigration policy.
Money making institutions? What the fuck is a corporation? In the USA they are mandated by law to take shareholders over employees side as it is.
All governments do that including in Canada. The government is in bed with corporations to get richer. What do you think the Century Initiative is all about?
 
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CLOUD 500

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Good luck with cutting all immigration, businesses will kill you.
For sure. They want to get richer. What do you think the Century Initiative is all about? And Carney is a technocrat. What can you expect from a banker?

Oh, and PeePee is a big investor in Brookefield.
I would be more concerned with Carney's assets which he hide. There is for sure a conflict of interest and he has millions in shares at Brookefield. Poilievre at least disclosed his assets. Time for Carney to do the same.
 

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But again, the population of Toronto increased from 1M to 2M between 1950 and 1960 - a 100% increase in 10 years. Houses were built for this tidal wave of new Canadians. Between 1960 and 1975, North York, Scarborough and Etobicoke were built from almost nothing. There just isn't that scale of residential construction these days. That's where the issue lies.
But there is a difference. The population boom of the 50s was a result of natural births. But now it is a government caused mess via mass immigration. About houses built, did you not notice most of the things were built during that time period? The Toronto subway was built in the 50s. The Montreal metro in the 60s. Nowadays it takes a decade for a subway extension. But to address your comment, condominiums were not legally possible till 1967. Rent control was implemented in 1975 and that discouraged investors to build new apartment buildings. They choose to build condos because they made a lot more money off that. Also they was a generous tax break for rental apartments built from 1974 to 1982. Ending this made more investors build condos instead. You see, less apartments being built plus rapid population increase = Housing crisis. It is a double whamming.
 

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But there is a difference. The population boom of the 50s was a result of natural births. But now it is a government caused mess via mass immigration. About houses built, did you not notice most of the things were built during that time period? The Toronto subway was built in the 50s. The Montreal metro in the 60s. Nowadays it takes a decade for a subway extension. But to address your comment, condominiums were not legally possible till 1967. Rent control was implemented in 1975 and that discouraged investors to build new apartment buildings. They choose to build condos because they made a lot more money off that. Also they was a generous tax break for rental apartments built from 1974 to 1982. Ending this made more investors build condos instead. You see, less apartments being built plus rapid population increase = Housing crisis. It is a double whamming.
Buddy, no. There was massive immigration in the 1950's. Prior to the 1950's, there were few or no Italians and Greeks here.

Between 1950 and 1975, North York, Scarborough and Etobicoke were built. That's a HUGE amount of building. Those places didn't exist before 1950. They were farmland with a couple of commercial strips here and there.
 

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Look at the charisma Doug Ford has compared to Pierre. It's too bad Doug Ford isn't running for PM, instead of Pierre!!

This may shock you. Mitchy, please sit down. I agree with you that Dougie has enough charisma to win as PM if he ran in a landslide, while Pee Pee just has a face you want to punch.
 
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This may shock you. Mitchy, please sit down. I agree with you that Dougie has enough charisma to win as PM if he ran in a landslide, while Pee Pee just has a face you want to punch.
Duggo has the charisma of a poop with dyed blond hair.
 

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@squeezer you have an excellent sense of humor. Good for you!!
Mitch, I know you're under a lot of strain. Danielle Smith could have at least acknowledged 1 or 2 of the 80 love emails you sent to her yesterday, telling her that she was your idea of a perfect woman and offering to marry her.

But I believe that Danielle is already secretly married to Skooby. You have to move on, buddy. Maybe Marge Green?
 
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CLOUD 500

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Buddy, no. There was massive immigration in the 1950's. Prior to the 1950's, there were few or no Italians and Greeks here.
You are right there was, I stand corrected, but not anywhere close to what we have today. But see they also experienced a housing crisis in the 1950s. I cannot comment much about that since I am not old enough to remember how it was then. But either way as you can see whether it be via mass immigration or natural births, rapid population increase causes poverty, infrastructure issues, and a housing crisis. As someone else mentioned, businesses would hate me for shutting down immigration. They make lots of money off rapid population increase. The only thing I say is we do need immigration, but we need responsible immigration, not uncontrolled immigration. Look, too much of anything is bad. Immigration should be not be too much as to cause a housing crisis but it must be enough that we can absorb all these people. It takes time to construct new houses and apartment.

Between 1950 and 1975, North York, Scarborough and Etobicoke were built. That's a HUGE amount of building. Those places didn't exist before 1950. They were farmland with a couple of commercial strips here and there.
Yes I know, I think I already said that in one my posts. But the city is way too dense now. It has to spread out to other cities. There are cities that really need the population like Timmins, Sudbury, Northbay to name a few.
 

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But there is a difference. The population boom of the 50s was a result of natural births. But now it is a government caused mess via mass immigration. About houses built, did you not notice most of the things were built during that time period? The Toronto subway was built in the 50s. The Montreal metro in the 60s. Nowadays it takes a decade for a subway extension. But to address your comment, condominiums were not legally possible till 1967. Rent control was implemented in 1975 and that discouraged investors to build new apartment buildings. They choose to build condos because they made a lot more money off that. Also they was a generous tax break for rental apartments built from 1974 to 1982. Ending this made more investors build condos instead. You see, less apartments being built plus rapid population increase = Housing crisis. It is a double whamming.
You want more Canadians having kids you need to back cheaper daycare, better schools, more unions for better paying jobs, subsidized housing and more family benefits.
 

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You want more Canadians having kids you need to back cheaper daycare, better schools, more unions for better paying jobs, subsidized housing and more family benefits.
But PeePee wants Canadians to have more kids and more families without daycare and other benefits that help families prosper.
 

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You want more Canadians having kids you need to back cheaper daycare, better schools, more unions for better paying jobs, subsidized housing and more family benefits.
So you think you can tax a society into prosperity? Looool Do you think like Trudeau, the budget will balance itself. What I see is your support Marxism. If it worked we would not have these problems. But it does not. First thing is first, carbon taxes and cap and trade system is making energy more expensive. To have an economically prosperous society you need cheap energy. These things you suggest only redistribute wealth, while you give the freebies to people with lots of kids, it puts a huge tax burden on single people and that is not fair. Remember, every dollar given by the government is a dollar someone worked that they will never see. The best thing is for government to get out of the way. You want prospering economy, then remove the taxes, remove government regulations, remove the red tape.
 

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But PeePee wants Canadians to have more kids and more families without daycare and other benefits that help families prosper.
Do you think money comes out of thin air? Lol
 

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So you think you can tax a society into prosperity? Looool Do you think like Trudeau, the budget will balance itself. What I see is your support Marxism. If it worked we would not have these problems. But it does not. First thing is first, carbon taxes and cap and trade system is making energy more expensive. To have an economically prosperous society you need cheap energy. These things you suggest only redistribute wealth, while you give the freebies to people with lots of kids, it puts a huge tax burden on single people and that is not fair. Remember, every dollar given by the government is a dollar someone worked that they will never see. The best thing is for government to get out of the way. You want prospering economy, then remove the taxes, remove government regulations, remove the red tape.
You avoided the question.
If you want Canadians to have more kids they need better paying jobs, better day care, better health care and cheaper housing.
Cutting taxes and making the poor more poor won't do it.
 

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Hmm... The last time I checked it is common for people in Toronto to work two jobs? Some even three jobs? The rents are so high that is the only way to afford things. Thanks to Trudeau and his mass immigration policy.


All governments do that including in Canada. The government is in bed with corporations to get richer. What do you think the Century Initiative is all about?
You are conflating apples and oranges. Labour laws have nothing to do with high rents. Nor does Universal healthcare, minimum wages, and other protections.

The major issue is the lack of starter homes, the "Manhattanization" of Toronto as is has risen in city ranks, along with Canada. Go outside of the GTA and things are much cheaper. But we do need to more mixed neighborhoods.

The idea of Triplexes, Back lane housing, increasing Density on main roads like Danforth will go a long way towards this.
 
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Pierre should on the Joe rogan podcast, and other podcasts. Be willing to take chances like Trump did in his last campaign, when Trump had a madison square garden rally etc Trump also went on tik tok, and did an agressive campaign.

Alternatively, Pierre is boring as "fawk", and is afraid to offend anybody. As a result, Pierre will lose this election badly to Carney. Carney will win a majority government. Pierre is just another loser PC leader like Scheer and O'Toole before him. As I said in another thread, I'm 62 yrs old, and I really need to receive my OAS when I turn 65. Carney will probably keep the OAS at 65, whereas Pierre might raise the OAS to 67, eventhough, Pierre said he wouldn't.

Pierre has no charisma at all, totally opposite to Donald Trump, and Doug Ford!!

Pierre should try and become friendly with Trump, instead of avoiding Trump. Pierre has nothing to lose at this point, as Carney and the LIBS have already stolen all of Pierre's good ideas anyway. I personally think Pierre is a loser, and I was so happy that Trump beat Kamala. At least Trump has some "fight" in him, as opposed to Pierre!!

For the first time ever, I'll be voting for my liberal riding candidate on Feb 28/2025. I never miss a vote. It makes me feel good, to cast my vote every election date!!
This is digesting subterfuge, kneecapping of one of your own because your supreme the orange entity who happens to be a fascist POTUS said so .
Do you think that Danielle Smith is shaved?
Poilievere is about get waxed or and or shaved, even by his own, such as your self apparently.
Canada will be staring down some very unique and ugly rabbit holes in 2025.
 

CLOUD 500

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You avoided the question.
If you want Canadians to have more kids they need better paying jobs, better day care, better health care and cheaper housing.
Cutting taxes and making the poor more poor won't do it.
I did. I answered. I will repeat, the redistribution of wealth is not creating wealth. You cannot tax a nation into prosperity. You cannot make Canadians have more kids, but having an economically prosperous nation can encourage people to do exactly that. Having carbon taxes like one thing is something that makes everything more expensive. Look at how much taxes we pay, income taxes, then taxes on everything you buy, property taxes. I mean there are taxes after taxes. So the first place to start is to cut the taxes. Why they have to send millions of taxpayers money to foreign countries?? For what like gender studies in other countries? What a colossal waste of money. Why bring in hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers just to give them free houses and monthly paychecks and give the bill to Canadians? Look at all the money wasted. Government spending is out of control. And look at 9 years of Liberals, the result is the greater wealth inequality. The result is all that matters. Trudeau's mass immigration policy for one is designed to make the rich more richer and the poor more poorer. That is the goal of the Century Initiative, it is a corporate lobby group and Carney is for it. Higher taxes affects the middle class the most. Have you not noticed the shrinking middle class since the 50s?
 
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