Impeachment Trial
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Sounds like they can delay witnesses and get some bills passed meanwhile.
Delay is good. They're going to lose if they press ahead now.
If they delay, there's a chance things will change.
What they really need to do is have a full investigation of the extent - if any - to which Trump's immediate entourage was involved in the detail planning of this event and especially if there was any liaison with the major violent militia groups that involved penetrating the Capitol.
There were 16 members of trump's team that quit shortly after the events of the 6th. Who knows what? Who is willing to talk?
Now there is a deal and Beutler's testimony has been read into the record and no witnesses will be called.
Not sure if that was smart or stupid.
4 hours of closing arguments but can they make enough of a deal about what Trump knew and when?
I guess he's safe.
In the meantime they reached a deal to admit Congresswoman Beutler's statement as uncontested evidence and not call any witnesses. I believe it says that in the call trump initially claimed that the rioters were Antifa and BLM. McCarthy told him no, that they were his supporters and he needs to call them off. trump did not and only said that the rioters were more upset about the election than he was.
Basically it proves that if trump were an arsonist, instead of trying to help put out the fire, he poured more gasoline on by sending out more tweets of encouragement. Not that I expect this proof of trump's intent to make any difference to the GoP senators.
If you just watched the closing I was really embarrassed for him. He was obviously playing for his client, the now former only twice impeached POTUS in history, because there was virtually nothing he said that had anything to do with the case itself or the Article of Impeachment. I just hope he got payed in advance.
US Senate ACQUITS Trump, ex-president cleared of incitement charges
The US Senate has failed to gather enough votes to convict former President Donald Trump, after a Democrat-led impeachment trial. Trump had been accused of "incitement of insurrection" after his supporters rioted on Capitol Hill.
Trump for POTUS 2024???
The US Senate has failed to gather enough votes to convict former President Donald Trump, after a Democrat-led impeachment trial. Trump had been accused of "incitement of insurrection" after his supporters rioted on Capitol Hill.
Trump for POTUS 2024???
7 republicans voted to impeach, 10 short.
I guess there is nothing left that would be impeachable after this.
I guess there is nothing left that would be impeachable after this.
This will of course embolden the now former only twice impeached POTUS in history and his acolytes in Qanon, the proud boys etc.
I guess the GOP will try to run with the twice impeached, least popular POTUS again in 2024.
Good news for the dems.
And the GOP is no longer the law and order party, its the anti democracy party.
US Senate ACQUITS Trump, ex-president cleared of incitement charges
The US Senate has failed to gather enough votes to convict former President Donald Trump, after a Democrat-led impeachment trial. Trump had been accused of "incitement of insurrection" after his supporters rioted on Capitol Hill.
Trump for POTUS 2024???
LOL In the court of public opinion and history he will be forever known as the only POTUS in history to be impeached twice and a pathetic loser who tried and failed to end democracy in the US..
Although I think his base may control the primary process the best thing that could happen for the Dems is he does get the nomination.
Impeachment is no longer a relevant concern in the US.
There is no longer a way to remove a president from office other than the 25th amendment, which will only be used in case of severe injury or death.
(Unless the Senate is controlled by a supermajority of the opposing party, which seems unlikely.)
It is clear that the 2/3 hurdle is just too high a bar and always has been. The idea of the super majority depended on their not being parties, but in a partisan system is isn't going to happen.
This was the most bipartisan impeachment in the country's history and it still wasn't close.
Johnson got 0 votes against him from his own party on all charges.
Clinton got 0 votes against him from his own party on all charges.
Trump got 1 vote against him from his own party on one charge the first time.
Trump got 7 votes against him from his own party the second time.
Most shameful of all was Moscow Mitch's 20 minute speech. He totally ripped trump a new one and agreed with everything the Dems had argued. His only justification was that the article of impeachment was delivered after trump was no longer president, yet HE WAS THE ONE WHO KEPT SENATE CLOSED SO THAT THE ARTICLE COULD NOT BE DELIVERED ON TIME.
The world should be sickened.
Totally shameless.
Stall the senate trial til he's gone and then claim its unconstitutional because its too late.
What a disgusting human.
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