How do you pronounce this? I thought it was "E-bee-za" but I heard on the radio that it's actually "E-bee-tha".
I'm talking about the Spanish island in the Med.
I'm talking about the Spanish island in the Med.
Ibiza?
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Like Bart'alona only different.
If your thinking of going sleep lots before you go and if your over 40 you're too old and should think Mallorca or Formentera. The area is absolutely beautiful.
If your thinking of going sleep lots before you go and if your over 40 you're too old and should think Mallorca or Formentera. The area is absolutely beautiful.
So my family members, about five families with 20 members worth, who live in Barcelona and the surrounding area, and can trace their roots there about 400 years, arriving after the great plaque, are wrong. That's how they explained it. As they have a very ancient Celtic name, it tends to stick out in the phone books. Feel free to call them up and chastise them.
Question: What is the pronunciation of 'Barcelona'?
Many people have heard that the 'c' in Spanish is lisped and is pronounced as a 'th'. So should Barcelona be pronounced 'Bar-the-lona' or 'Bar-se-lona'?
Answer:
Many English speakers attempt to sound 'more Spanish' by pronouncing the 'c' in Barcelona as a 'th' and saying 'Bar-the-lona'. But in Catalan (the langauge of Catalonia, where Barcelona is found), the 'c' is pronounced as a 's' - so 'Bar-se-lona' is the correct pronunciation.
Incidentally, the abbreviation 'Barça' applies only to the football team. When abbrevationg Barcelona, locals say 'Barna' instead.
Many people have heard that the 'c' in Spanish is lisped and is pronounced as a 'th'. So should Barcelona be pronounced 'Bar-the-lona' or 'Bar-se-lona'?
Answer:
Many English speakers attempt to sound 'more Spanish' by pronouncing the 'c' in Barcelona as a 'th' and saying 'Bar-the-lona'. But in Catalan (the langauge of Catalonia, where Barcelona is found), the 'c' is pronounced as a 's' - so 'Bar-se-lona' is the correct pronunciation.
Incidentally, the abbreviation 'Barça' applies only to the football team. When abbrevationg Barcelona, locals say 'Barna' instead.
This is correct. The Catalonian dialect does have a slight lisp to it. There is also the Castilian dialect which is high spanish and the spanish spoken in Mexico and South America is very different from the authentic spanish.
From Origins of the 'Lisp' of Spain
http://spanish.about.com/cs/qa/a/q_lisp.htm
As for the exception of why Barcelona is pronouced without the 'th' when you're IN Barcelona, people in Barcelona pronounce it "Barselona" because they speak Catalan, not Castillian. Catalan does not have the "c" pronounced as "th".
And why would anyone care all of a sudden for the correct pronouciation of Ibiza? I think it's because of 'The Dark Knight Rises' where Bruce Wayne chastizes Selina Kyle about pronouncing Ibiza incorrectly and not fitting in with the wealthy crowd.
Now everyone who has seen TDKR thinks they're so money by pronouncing it Ibitha
http://spanish.about.com/cs/qa/a/q_lisp.htm
As for the exception of why Barcelona is pronouced without the 'th' when you're IN Barcelona, people in Barcelona pronounce it "Barselona" because they speak Catalan, not Castillian. Catalan does not have the "c" pronounced as "th".
And why would anyone care all of a sudden for the correct pronouciation of Ibiza? I think it's because of 'The Dark Knight Rises' where Bruce Wayne chastizes Selina Kyle about pronouncing Ibiza incorrectly and not fitting in with the wealthy crowd.
Now everyone who has seen TDKR thinks they're so money by pronouncing it Ibitha
Neither did I until 1998, having learned about them in 1990. Being a good merchant, one merchant trader travelled to Spain to trade after the devastation, fell in love with a local senorita and the rest was history. They spoke as much English, when me and mine met them, as I spoke Spanish, but we got along famously with many laughs, drinks, and music.
So let me get this straight, the royal lisp is just a story/legend. I guess Rubbie didn' get the memo.
I'm just posting what I found, I didn't say anyone was wrong...don't drag me into your tortured bromance with Rubbie!!!
(you guys kill me)
Also, I intend to pronounce it with a Z to see who corrects me, and I'll ask them 'So, did you like TDKR?'
I'm just posting what I found, I didn't say anyone was wrong...don't drag me into your tortured bromance with Rubbie!!!
(you guys kill me)
Hey, I'm just trying to clear things up. Throwing stones and glass house come quickly to mind in this situation. Rubbie just tries too hard sometimes.
When i was 20 i lived in Spain for 6 months working and playing in the Catalonian town of Lloret de Mar on the Costa Brava coast of the Mediterranean and that's where i learned spanish. I could speak a lot of it back then, but after not using it for so many years, i've forgotten a lot of spanish.
Ibiza, E-bee-za, E-beeh-za. Who cares?
Talk about the parties and the clubs there.
Those are more interesting in Ibiza than any pronouncing or spellig rules.
So who had been there guys and have you had a good time??
Talk about the parties and the clubs there.
Those are more interesting in Ibiza than any pronouncing or spellig rules.So who had been there guys and have you had a good time??
Ibiza, E-bee-za, E-beeh-za. Who cares?
Talk about the parties and the clubs there.
So who had been there guys and have you had a good time??
Starting at post #2 yes, but found Mallorca more to my liking.. The bars and restaurant actually close down for a few hours.
Talk about the parties and the clubs there.
No thanks. I'd like to at least know what I'm talking about so I don't look like some ignorant idiot who can't be bothered to learn the pronunciation. Whether you choose to pronounce it that way or not is up to you, but I'd at least like to know what the "official" pronunciation is. Which, btw, was the point of this thread. :wink:
Maybe this is helpful from WP?
The official name of the island is in Catalan Eivissa (pronounced: [əjˈvisə]). The name in Spanish is Ibiza (pronounced: [iˈβiθa]). In British English, the name is usually pronounced in an approximation of the Spanish (/ɪˈbiːθəˌ ɪˈviːθə/),[2] while in American English the pronunciation is more anglicized, or closer to Latin American Spanish (/ɪˈbiːzə/,[3] /iːˈbiːsə/[4]).[5][6] The origins of the name comes from the Arabic اليابسة iabisa, which means the dry land, usually sailors when accosting from their boats will call it the dry land as opposed with the water world.
2 "Ibiza". Oxford English Dictionary (3rd ed.). Oxford University Press. 2001.
3 Random House dictionary
4 American Heritage dictionary
5 Jones, Daniel; Peter Roach et al. (2003). English Pronouncing Dictionary (16th ed.). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
6 Wells, John C. (2000). Longman Pronunuciation Dictionary (2nd ed.). Harlow: Pearson Education Limited.
So to summarize, the pronouciations are:
əjˈvisə
iˈβiθa
ɪˈbiːθə
ɪˈviːθə
ɪˈbiːzə
iːˈbiːsə
اليابسة
That's much clearer now, thanks!
əjˈvisə
iˈβiθa
ɪˈbiːθə
ɪˈviːθə
ɪˈbiːzə
iːˈbiːsə
اليابسة
That's much clearer now, thanks!
With all do respect KE, your concern with proper pronunciation of the island is a little much. You will never sound like or be a local and with maybe 40 countries under my belt and likewise US states, no one ever got upset with my pronunciation. I'd be more concern about saying please, thank you and few other polite words in the local language first. The rest will follow.
Most Canadians can't pronounce Tsiigehtchic or Kouchibouguac, but that doesn't seem to matter to the locals
