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silentkisser

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No he appeals to people who get a kick out of jest at the expense of the loonies
His audience are the loonies.
I would argue that when he has massive support by groups like that....then maybe he's talking to his people...and that's his audience.

Oh, I doubt many communist watch Trucker
You're right. But the January 6th insurrectionists sure do.

More ridiculous stereotyping
The loonie left Go to - Pull out the race card whenever lacking anything of substance
Not pulling any card. This isn't a game. It is reality. How many times has Tucker talked about white genocide and the likes?


Just about every nightmare shithole city in he US is controlled by democrats
LOL, sounds like right wing spin. I mean, most of the best cities are run by democrats. LA, New York, Chicago, San Jose, Denver, Minneapolis, Atlanta, Philadelphia.

These are ranked as the best or most livable cities in the US. Do they have issues? Sure. Show me a city that doesn't?


Happens to anyone who demands attention. This is not a partisan
I'm going to ignore the rest of your lies to focus on this: Show me its partisan. I'm sure you'll pull out the Kathy Griffen Trump photo, but really, show me where a Democrat made a video showing someone like Lauren Boebert of MTG being murdered? Show me other instances of this? I recall seeing a lot of Republicans posting photos of Obama being lynched in effigy. This doesn't feel partisan to me...
 

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His audience are the loonies.
Hardly, the loonies watch CNN



I would argue that when he has massive support by groups like that....then maybe he's talking to his people...and that's his audience.
And you would be wrong
Most people who watch fox are likely looking for the other side of the story

Selection of a cable channel to view does not make one a white supremist
I might watch CNN while there is commercial running in the hockey game as I find Erin Burnett to be an attractive lady


You're right. But the January 6th insurrectionists sure do.
You are going to milk that until the end of time aren't you ?

Did you survey the Jan 6 protestors on their viewing habits ?



Not pulling any card. This isn't a game. It is reality. How many times has Tucker talked about white genocide and the likes?
"white genocide" ?
Who is plotting to kill all the whites?

Perhaps Tucker does not talk about paranoid conspiracy theories

Are there race issues in the USA ? No doubt

Judge a person based on their character
Morgan Freeman: How do you stop racism? Stop talking about it



LOL, sounds like right wing spin. I mean, most of the best cities are run by democrats. LA, New York, Chicago, San Jose, Denver, Minneapolis, Atlanta, Philadelphia.
Chicago ???
They wrote the manual on municipal corruption

These are ranked as the best or most livable cities in the US. Do they have issues? Sure. Show me a city that doesn't?
Baltimore use to be a great place to visit, not any more


I'm going to ignore the rest of your lies to focus on this: Show me its partisan. I'm sure you'll pull out the Kathy Griffen Trump photo, but really, show me where a Democrat made a video showing someone like Lauren Boebert of MTG being murdered? Show me other instances of this? I recall seeing a lot of Republicans posting photos of Obama being lynched in effigy. This doesn't feel partisan to me...
Kathy Griffen Ok that works
It is not partisan
You had better get to the fact you can not control what people post on the internet
No doubt a great % of your hostility originates from shit you read / watch on line

Use some common sense and avoid stupidity
 

Frankfooter

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Hardly, the loonies watch CNN
And you would be wrong
Most people who watch fox are likely looking for the other side of the story
Selection of a cable channel to view does not make one a white supremist
I might watch CNN while there is commercial running in the hockey game as I find Erin Burnett to be an attractive lady
You are going to milk that until the end of time aren't you ?
Did you survey the Jan 6 protestors on their viewing habits ?
"white genocide" ?
Who is plotting to kill all the whites?
Perhaps Tucker does not talk about paranoid conspiracy theories
Are there race issues in the USA ? No doubt
Judge a person based on their character
Morgan Freeman: How do you stop racism? Stop talking about it
Chicago ???
They wrote the manual on municipal corruption
Baltimore use to be a great place to visit, not any more
Kathy Griffen Ok that works
It is not partisan
You had better get to the fact you can not control what people post on the internet
No doubt a great % of your hostility originates from shit you read / watch on line
Use some common sense and avoid stupidity
So much rambling, but its clear where its coming from.

 
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Not pulling any card. This isn't a game. It is reality. How many times has Tucker talked about white genocide and the likes?
I like this one. Talking about discrimination against blacks is fine. Talking about existing reverse discrimination when blacks get priority over similarly qualified whites is racism. Black Life Matter - perfectly fine. All lives matter (I am not even talking about White Lives Matter) - is racists
 
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silentkisser

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Hardly, the loonies watch CNN




And you would be wrong
Most people who watch fox are likely looking for the other side of the story

Selection of a cable channel to view does not make one a white supremist
I might watch CNN while there is commercial running in the hockey game as I find Erin Burnett to be an attractive lady



You are going to milk that until the end of time aren't you ?

Did you survey the Jan 6 protestors on their viewing habits ?




"white genocide" ?
Who is plotting to kill all the whites?

Perhaps Tucker does not talk about paranoid conspiracy theories

Are there race issues in the USA ? No doubt

Judge a person based on their character
Morgan Freeman: How do you stop racism? Stop talking about it




Chicago ???
They wrote the manual on municipal corruption


Baltimore use to be a great place to visit, not any more




Kathy Griffen Ok that works
It is not partisan
You had better get to the fact you can not control what people post on the internet
No doubt a great % of your hostility originates from shit you read / watch on line

Use some common sense and avoid stupidity
This is telling. You think Fox viewers are there to see the other side of the story? They do not look at other news sources. Study after study shows Fox viewers are less informed about local, state and federal issues. They still believe that they found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Tucker's "white genocide" is about immigrants coming in and becoming the largest voting block in the USA. The fear is they'll be Latino, African-American or Southeast Asian. But you already knew that, you just want to deflect. These are major talking points of places like Stormfront and, well, Tucker's show.

Finally, about partisan violence. I'll take your total lack of evidence showing both sides is proof I'm right. I mean, you couldn't find one instance? And you're right, you can't control what is posted. But Paul Gosar did it. He's an elected GOP representative. That feels very partisan...
 

silentkisser

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I like this one. Talking about discrimination against blacks is fine. Talking about existing reverse discrimination when blacks get priority over similarly qualified whites is racism. Black Life Matter - perfectly fine. All lives matter (I am not even talking about White Lives Matter) - is racists
Affirmative action is designed to help minorities gain a foothold. Study after study shows companies that have diversity in management and the workforce have better financial results. And it doesn't always work out. I mean, in football they have the Rooney Rule, but it looks like a lot of teams just pay lip service to it, considering how many african-americans are in higher management.

But, BLM isn't anti-white. That might be the dumbest belief. Maybe they should have changed it to Black Lives Matter Too! The point is, in America, black lives are not as valued as whites. You can see that by the number of police shootings against unarmed black people, the huge number who are incarcerated, and even in the healthcare and education systems where blacks receive worse care and treatment.

Of course all lives matter. The issue is yelling all lives matter during a BLM protest is that it is trying to change the focus, or downplay the serious issues that are being addressed.

But let me ask you this question: Have you been discriminated because you were white? I mean, I'd love to hear it. Or do you see a POC get promoted ahead of you and you immediately think they only got the gig because they are a woman or another minority? If so, that would be very telling...
 

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Tucker's "white genocide" is about immigrants coming in and becoming the largest voting block in the USA. The fear is they'll be Latino, African-American or Southeast Asian. But you already knew that, you just want to deflect. These are major talking points of places like Stormfront and, well, Tucker's show.
And you see no problem when people with different culture come to a country and, instead of assimilation, continue to follow their own customs? The Muslims overrunning the Paris? The Turks taking over Germany? If you want to immigrate to another country - accept that country's values and customs. Importing votes that may hurt current citizens is not something that should be acceptable.
 

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And you see no problem when people with different culture come to a country and, instead of assimilation, continue to follow their own customs? The Muslims overrunning the Paris? The Turks taking over Germany? If you want to immigrate to another country - accept that country's values and customs. Importing votes that may hurt current citizens is not something that should be acceptable.
White people do not have sex enough to maintain their population density, and without immigration would face a future with declining government services and higher taxes.

Do you really believe Germany welcomed fremdarbeiters because the government thought they would vote for them. Fremdarbeiters have no voting rights in Germany.
 

silentkisser

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And you see no problem when people with different culture come to a country and, instead of assimilation, continue to follow their own customs? The Muslims overrunning the Paris? The Turks taking over Germany? If you want to immigrate to another country - accept that country's values and customs. Importing votes that may hurt current citizens is not something that should be acceptable.
You do realize they've said that about every wave of immigrant in both Canada and the US. "Those Italians are stick together and don't speak the language!" "The Irish are going to ruin our city, they're a bunch of lazy drunks!" "Those people just can't fit in here!"

But, fear mongering has always been popular to demonize immigrants. But eventually they assimilate.

Also, muslims overrunning Paris? Sounds like right-wing paranoia. And the funny thing is, this is in a thread talking about a "freedom" convoy. Aren't people allowed the freedom to live their lives as long as they follow our laws? I mean, would you outlaw Orthodox Jews from dressing in their traditional garb, or is that only saved for muslim women in hijabs?
 
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fall

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The point is, in America, black lives are not as valued as whites. You can see that by the number of police shootings against unarmed black people, the huge number who are incarcerated, and even in the healthcare and education systems where blacks receive worse care and treatment.

But let me ask you this question: Have you been discriminated because you were white? I mean, I'd love to hear it. Or do you see a POC get promoted ahead of you and you immediately think they only got the gig because they are a woman or another minority? If so, that would be very telling...
To your first point above: Have you ever heard of such thing as correlation? I.e., blacks are getting shot by police and arrested more often because lager portion of black population commit violent crimes? It has nothing to do with skin colour - it is because of the social-economic conditions many black people live in.

To your second point: yes. Recently we added a weaker candidate to the final round of job applicants simply because he was black. And one of the hiring committee members (a white person) was pushing for hiring him because it would increase "diversity" although we had much better candidates. In college admission in the U.S., being black gives you a priority. So, yes, reversed discrimination (called "affirmative actions") is a real thing.
 

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You do realize they've said that about every wave of immigrant in both Canada and the US. "Those Italians are stick together and don't speak the language!" "The Irish are going to ruin our city, they're a bunch of lazy drunks!" "Those people just can't fit in here!"

But, fear mongering has always been popular to demonize immigrants. But eventually they assimilate.

Also, muslims overrunning Paris? Sounds like right-wing paranoia. And the funny thing is, this is in a thread talking about a "freedom" convoy. Aren't people allowed the freedom to live their lives as long as they follow our laws? I mean, would you outlaw Orthodox Jews from dressing in their traditional garb, or is that only saved for muslim women in hijabs?
Have you been to Paris? It is overrun by Muslims.

Yes, our citizens have the right to live their lives as they want to. We just need to be careful not to grant citizenship to people who will not negatively affect our current citizens.
 

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And you see no problem when people with different culture come to a country and, instead of assimilation, continue to follow their own customs? The Muslims overrunning the Paris? The Turks taking over Germany? If you want to immigrate to another country - accept that country's values and customs. Importing votes that may hurt current citizens is not something that should be acceptable.
You're falling for a strawman argument and forcing yourself to defend the figment of his imagination. There is not and there never was a racial argument in Carlson's opposition to the illegal migration. I've been following Carlson since his days on the CNN and the Weakly Standard. He has always been very consistent on that point.
 
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This is telling. You think Fox viewers are there to see the other side of the story? They do not look at other news sources. Study after study shows Fox viewers are less informed about local, state and federal issues. They still believe that they found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

You are so fixated on stereotyping others that you have forgotten how to view anything objectively

Tucker's "white genocide" is about immigrants coming in and becoming the largest voting block in the USA. The fear is they'll be Latino, African-American or Southeast Asian. But you already knew that, you just want to deflect. These are major talking points of places like Stormfront and, well, Tucker's show.
Oh Boy
That is what your imagination thinks he is saying, and unless you have a recording of him saying that you are just spewing unfounded crap

Frado Cumo and Don Lemon have spew all sorts of loonie left crapola on CNN
If I listen to them it is because the remote is out of reach
Do I wet my pants like you do over Tucker Carlson ?
Of course not. I know the vast majority of all Americans are capable of smelling bullshit.
Hence the decline in CNN ratings


Finally, about partisan violence. I'll take your total lack of evidence showing both sides is proof I'm right. I mean, you couldn't find one instance? And you're right, you can't control what is posted. But Paul Gosar did it. He's an elected GOP representative. That feels very partisan...
Stop thinking with your feelings, use your brain instead


I mean, you couldn't find one instance?
of course I could not. I did not bother to search
Your premise was ridiculous to begin with and trimming my toenails was a better use of my time
 
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silentkisser

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To your first point above: Have you ever heard of such thing as correlation? I.e., blacks are getting shot by police and arrested more often because lager portion of black population commit violent crimes? It has nothing to do with skin colour - it is because of the social-economic conditions many black people live in.

To your second point: yes. Recently we added a weaker candidate to the final round of job applicants simply because he was black. And one of the hiring committee members (a white person) was pushing for hiring him because it would increase "diversity" although we had much better candidates. In college admission in the U.S., being black gives you a priority. So, yes, reversed discrimination (called "affirmative actions") is a real thing.
While I'm sure you're going to discount this, let's get into it. Blacks are over represented in crime stats. Is it because they are more violent, as some people want to paint them. No, probably not. What you do see happen is a zero-tolerance approach when the police or DA get involved with blacks, while whites tend to get warnings, probation or other things instead of charges (peace bonds etc.). So, statistically, you see higher levels of black arrests and convictions. The other issue is black communities are over policed. They use the "broken window" premise, so they are out every day writing tickets or making arrests where in a white neighbourhood they might give warnings or let things slide. So, the social-economic conditions black people live in is tied to this and other historical issues. Red lining and the inability of blacks to get government backed mortgages in the 50s and 60s (and even later) stole generational wealth from millions.

Finally, as the old saying goes, correlation does not imply causation. We need to look at how simple interactions with police can turn deadly for unarmed black men. Eric Garner was choked to death because he was selling loose cigarettes. Several others were shot in the back when they were running from police. Now, I know whites and other groups have been killed by police in similar fashions, but statistically, the number of blacks dying is significantly larger.

Now, as to the second point, affirmative action is not reverse discrimination. If we look at the recent college admission scandal, how many privileged, wealth white people got their kids into schools they shouldn't be attending? Think about who was squeezed out of slots for those folks?

When I hear you say reverse discrimination, I think of white victimhood. This black applicant you mention, would you have felt better if it was a white dude who was friends of the hiring manager? Or a women? Do you think affirmative action gives POC a leg up over others? I mean, compared to all the crap they need to get to that level? No matter how accomplished they are, and if they get the job totally based on merit, there will be people who say they are a token hiring, done to fullfuill some DEI initiative.

C'est la vie....
 

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And you see no problem when people with different culture come to a country and, instead of assimilation, continue to follow their own customs?
So you believe minority populations should assimilate to the lifestyle of the great majority? Then the unvaxxed should do the same. Assimilate for the greater good of the society to be part of it = get vaccinated.
 
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