But, won't the trillion dollar intergenerational transfer of wealth to the "Baby Boomers" take care of a trillion dollars of that debt?GotGusto said:we're up to our necks in credit/debt (government and citizens)
But, won't the trillion dollar intergenerational transfer of wealth to the "Baby Boomers" take care of a trillion dollars of that debt?GotGusto said:we're up to our necks in credit/debt (government and citizens)
GotGusto said:I'm deeply concerned about this. We still haven't hit bottom on this economic downturn. I fear that when we do and things begin to pick up, it's going to be a long slow road to recovery (a "recovery" that may never return to pre-downturn levels). It could be the end of an era -our [North America's] best days behind us. There are seismic economic shifts occuring right now that will be felt for decades. Debt at the individual and government level has to be reigned in, but that is going to require a complete overhaul in lifestyle.
Thanks to the policies of the LLL. When a 16 year old girl figures she can make more money having babies than working at McDonalds or going to school, she makes babies. On the other hand, these babies grow up to provide a pool of candidates for the Marine Corp.GotGusto said:-we have a growing underclass (the bottom of the barrel in society is outbreeding the elite at a rate never seen before in the modern world; the educated and ambitious -genetically more capable - aren't having kids while welfare moms are having dozens)
It's partly that but a deeper problem is that the 16 year old is not making a logical choice like the one you posit. That typical 16 year old with rugrats just wanted a baby - without even thinking of how or what way is the best way to provide for it - or had it by 'mistake'. Typically that 16 year old never intended to remain in school whether they had a kid or not.Rockslinger said:Thanks to the policies of the LLL. When a 16 year old girl figures she can make more money having babies than working at McDonalds or going to school, she makes babies. On the other hand, these babies grow up to provide a pool of candidates for the Marine Corp.
Hear it every recession--economy will never bounce back-ya da-ya da---and then we do--and everybody goes nuts and forgets that another recession will be coming along...so they don't save a penny....GotGusto said:I'm deeply concerned about this. We still haven't hit bottom on this economic downturn. I fear that when we do and things begin to pick up, it's going to be a long slow road to recovery (a "recovery" that may never return to pre-downturn levels). It could be the end of an era -our [North America's] best days behind us. There are seismic economic shifts occuring right now that will be felt for decades. Debt at the individual and government level has to be reigned in, but that is going to require a complete overhaul in lifestyle.
oldstud47 said:You guys are too much first of all thank you for your suggestions and well wishes. Secondly the economy sucks but even if it was good and when it wa good we never make enough at least I don't. Look when i worked it was hard sometimes 45 50 hours a week just to pay the mortgage make the car payments put food on the table and mabey go out once or twice a month an a saturday if I'm lucky. Even the hobby is something I don't do too often due to money
I hear you - who among us hasn't been there?oldstud47 said:to be honest mabey a little of both when things are good sometimes you do a few things more then you should having said that I am not destitute but its tough out there and who wants to use up there savings
If not that maybe blow it on a bicycle or something silly like that. Remember all those prudent folks who invested in the Dow Jones only to see it hit a 12 year low in March. If all he spent is $650 for a bit of pleasure so what? Live life a little, life is short.Peter123 said:yeah dropping $650 at a sex party a month ago--
Back in the old days they would be one of the "below deck crew" on one of Admiral Nelson's warships.GotGusto said:They're more apt to become grunts in the general army.
I've only lived through two recessions, the one in the 1980s and the current one. I was too young to care about the former, but it's my understanding that we expect ups and downs in the economy. However, I don't believe the current recession is comparable to the one in the 80s nor the Great Depression. Much of the underlying causes are different, the world is different, therefore I expect the solution will be different.Peter123 said:Hear it every recession--economy will never bounce back-ya da-ya da---and then we do--and everybody goes nuts and forgets that another recession will be coming along...so they don't save a penny....
GotGusto said:Being prepared is good. But how will that save you if things remain bad, not for months, but years.
Hey oldstud, I know that this means nothing to you right now, but try and remember that when one door closes another one opens be positiveoldstud47 said:hey fellow terbites I am a product of this wonderful economy I lost my job today due to the company down sizing. I don't know if the board will allow me to do this but if there is anyone out there who needs a good controller for his or her company I would appreciate the opportunity. I honestly can;t afford to be out of work.. even though your know what my hobby is lol
GotGusto said:I've only lived through two recessions, the one in the 1980s and the current one.
actually you have lived through 3 and living in one...early 80's, early 90's, early 00's and now....
and sure every one is different, different causes, but outcome is still the same, recovery...
of course this is macro--on the micro nature there are plenty of people for whom this recession will mean the end of their way of life forever.
And yes people used to save, and they would then be able to survive for at least some period of time...now tons of people are only a couple of paycheques from broke.
But on the original poster, have to say I find it funny in a way that a company's Controller--chief Accountant type would be surprised by his job loss...shouldn't they be the one person who can see it company well ahead of time??
and sure blow $650...but I'm guessing that wasn't the only indulgence....