How to recognize a far- leftie

[JohnLarue]

Sammy Maudlin called.... he wants to tell you that saying "politicians should be role models" doesn't mean that they aren't and Trump definitely is.... do you think he is a positive role model in any way?

tell Sammy that you could apply that silly assed logic to any public figure including any number of Hollywood stars , sports figures , mayors , governors, premiers, buffoon Prime ministers, senators or disgraced liberal members of parliament.

Each of which will tell you they should be role model but have responsibilities which supper cede role model criteria
Each of which should also act with the highest level of ethics for numerous other reasons than role model, but do not always do so.

learning people in general as well as public figures are failable is a harsh reality of growing up

do I think Trump is a positive role model in any way?


I have been very clear that I find Trumps personality to be abrasive
he is a narcists, and he can be nasty, mean-spirited and vindictive
role model for children ?

politics is a nasty game, not a game for children

Joe Biden & his family are corrupt , Joe also had some pretty nasty racial slurs caught on tape years ago
Kamela Harris is a blithering fool who can not communicate to save her life
Justin Trudeau is exceptionally stupid, a narcists, corrupt as hell, is insincere, blackface. misogynistic and lies to the public out of habit
AOC has to be one of the dumbest people alive and needs an ideology to think
Gerrald Butts is a slithery snake in the grass, nasty and will destroy peoples lives and not give it a second thought
Mark Carney misrepresents himself and has a globalist agenda , which supersedes Canadas interest
Pierre P is blunt and publicly humiliates fools , not exactly a positive life lesson for children
Doug Ford might appear be the most down to earth of the lot, but also has character flaws i am sure you can provide
Olivia chow would steal you last dollar while telling you its for the common good.

perhaps the question for you who is your ideal political role model ?

likely the best route is to tell a developing child is politics is really complicated and most politicians generally want to do their best for the public but are not always able to do so and sadly they make mistakes sometimes.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

there is a plethora of morally complex causes and people where your black & white point of view may have trouble.

Let us not muddy the waters about my initial comment and the topic on hand.
There is nothing morally complex, or anything morally justifiable about right wing extremism in the west, except that it is morally unjustifiable.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Ya, just crazy how all the evil people are on one side of the political spectrum while on the other side are all noble, pure and spin rainbows while they kill people.

Your mental gymnastics doesn't change the fact that the primary source for terrorism in the west is right wing extremism.
Those aren't my conclusions. It comes from American federal law enforcement and intelligence.
They dont deny any left wing terrorism.
They say the primary occurrences and threats are from right wing extremists and that they are just as dangerous as ISIS.

 

[richaceg]

How to recognize if your child is right-wing?

He/she is not a drama queen

he/she has common sense...can identify male female individuals...

 

[richaceg]

Sammy Maudlin called.... he wants to tell you that saying "politicians should be role models" doesn't mean that they aren't and Trump definitely is.... do you think he is a positive role model in any way?

Trump isn't a politician...
Your role model,

Not even close...

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

That is a HUGE relief by the people got their homes & business burnt down in days and day of riots that were instigated by Left Wing organizations that could legitimately be called Domestic Terrorism.

"Don't worry about them, the FBI says they're not the problem".

Because you know, the definition of Terrorism is never, ever a political definition right?

Riots are not terrorist attacks.
And yes there were riots during BLM.
They weren't planned terror attacks like the ones tracked by the FBI and DHS.

 

[shack]

You're missing the point, when people use the word 'terrorist' its not about the tactics, its about labelling your opponent as outside of human rights and the law to justify your own terrorism. Bonus points if you use it based on race.

How ironic is that post.

Just like when some people are labelled as genocide supporters, apartheid supporters, colonialism supporters because they condemn acts of terrorism against people at a music festival, just as a random example.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Here's a thought for you.

Go through the data. The FBI/DHS are only concerned about attacks when they effect Government (e.g. McVey) or Politicians themselves (Jan 6th).

Joe Schmoe and his private property being destroyed much more frequently and costly isn't a problem. Is it?

It's almost as if you merely completely align with a) who defines it, and b) who decides how important it is.

Cool. Critical thinking. Carry on.

Well so you decided to apply critical thinking and lump all violence into one bucket - terrorism, because it is convenient for you?
The FBI/DHS determine what is terrorism.
Opportunistic vandalism and destruction of property during protests are random acts of violence and do not fall in that category.
Per the FBI:
Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.
Per this definition it is right wing extremism that is most prevalent in the the United States.
I don't know why you have such a hard time just accepting a fact.

Who is a terrorist, actually? | Brookings

An overly broad application of the "terrorism" label can make it more difficult to understand violent groups, thereby limiting our ability to respond effectively.

www.brookings.edu

When it comes to Black Lives Matter, there’s no credible case for labeling it a terrorist organization. One analysis of the Black Lives Matter protests found that 93 percent were peaceful, and some of the violent incidents at the rallies were simply opportunistic vandalism.

Most of the protest leaders have tried to stop looting and other violence, recognizing this is counterproductive as well as wrong. Moreover, Black Lives Matter is an open movement with a host of organizations participating along with self-proclaimed supporters rather than a tight group with a defined membership. Thus, labeling the movement as a whole as violent is false.

But not all violence is terrorism, either. In many instances, even those who do actively promote and use violence don’t merit the label “terrorist.”

 

[Skoob]

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That checklist can be pruned down to a single item:

Treats others with compassion and respect...except if someone disagrees with their opinion...then attacks them by any means necessary.

 

[JohnLarue]

Riots are not terrorist attacks.
And yes there were riots during BLM.
They weren't planned terror attacks like the ones tracked by the FBI and DHS.

oh, so you are sub dividing evil violent / destructive acts now to keep the loonie left in the + on the messed up uncivilized moron scorecard ?

do you all your spare time pondering justifications for what you know to be wrong ?

 

[Skoob]

oh, so you are sub dividing evil violent / destructive acts now to keep the loonie left in the + on the messed up uncivilized moron scorecard ?

do you all your spare time pondering justifications for what you know to be wrong ?

Evil and destructive acts are justified if they fall within the leftist woke side of the ideology equation.

 

[JohnLarue]

Well so you decided to apply critical thinking and lump all violence into one bucket - terrorism, because it is convenient for you?
The FBI/DHS determine what is terrorism.
Opportunistic vandalism and destruction of property during protests are random acts of violence and do not fall in that category.
Per the FBI:
Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.
Per this definition it is right wing extremism that is most prevalent in the the United States.
I don't know why you have such a hard time just accepting a fact.

Who is a terrorist, actually? | Brookings

An overly broad application of the "terrorism" label can make it more difficult to understand violent groups, thereby limiting our ability to respond effectively.

www.brookings.edu

When it comes to Black Lives Matter, there’s no credible case for labeling it a terrorist organization. One analysis of the Black Lives Matter protests found that 93 percent were peaceful, and some of the violent incidents at the rallies were simply opportunistic vandalism.

Most of the protest leaders have tried to stop looting and other violence, recognizing this is counterproductive as well as wrong. Moreover, Black Lives Matter is an open movement with a host of organizations participating along with self-proclaimed supporters rather than a tight group with a defined membership. Thus, labeling the movement as a whole as violent is false.

But not all violence is terrorism, either. In many instances, even those who do actively promote and use violence don’t merit the label “terrorist.”

you are ridiculous

did you honestly think law abiding citizens were not terrorized by BLM riots and arson in their communities?

 

[jalimon]

you are ridiculous

did you honestly think law abiding citizens were not terrorized by BLM riots and arson in their communities?

Most of BML riots were started by infiltrated right extremist. Without that it would have been peaceful.

 

[Frankfooter]

How ironic is that post.

Just like when some people are labelled as genocide supporters, apartheid supporters, colonialism supporters because they condemn acts of terrorism against people at a music festival, just as a random example.

People get labelled as genocide, apartheid and colonialism supporters for supporting genocide, apartheid and colonialism.
Those are real crimes and when their leader is a wanted war criminal it is the reality.

Your definition of terrorism is based on race, otherwise you'd have to admit that your support of Kahane, JDL and settler attacks means you fit the bill.

 

[Frankfooter]

you are ridiculous

did you honestly think law abiding citizens were not terrorized by BLM riots and arson in their communities?

 

[Frankfooter]

The new antifa.
People standing up to nazis and fascists.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1888937887225491936

 

[wigglee]

perhaps the question for you who is your ideal political role model ?

Jimmy Carter, JFK, Lester Pearson, Pierre Trudeau, Barack Obama were all intelligent and inspired hope . They had class , unlike the hordes of Repugs like Trump and Taylor-Greene, or the Cons like Ford and PP. They all use scapegoats to blame for problems, real or imagined. I like a leader who can inspire greatness without demonizing others . They are good role models. No wonder the youth are fucked with examples like Trump to emulate. I guess it pays to be a liar, a crook, a bully and an undemocratic dictator.

 

[JohnLarue]

Jimmy Carter, JFK, Lester Pearson, Pierre Trudeau, Barack Obama were all intelligent and inspired hope . They had class , unlike the hordes of Repugs like Trump and Taylor-Greene, or the Cons like Ford and PP. They all use scapegoats to blame for problems, real or imagined. I like a leader who can inspire greatness without demonizing others . They are good role models. No wonder the youth are fucked with examples like Trump to emulate. I guess it pays to be a liar, a crook, a bully and an undemocratic dictator.

Jimmy Carter nice guy- weak leader , clueless on some issues
JFK - womanizer, had mob friends, cheated on his wife, Daddy's illegal boot legging Money bought him the 1960 election in Chicago
Pierre Trudeau- Good international diplomat - very divisive and arrogant, terrible manager, authoritarian , war measures act , irresponsible with $
Barack Obama- good salesman- , embraced the woke nonsense and very divisive. "The science is settled" (he lied- does not understand science at all )

none of these men were good role models for children
All politicians are compromised one way or another , its the nature of the game

No wonder the youth are fucked with examples like Trump to emulate.

todays youth were bent long before Trump took office

it is best to expect political leaders to act and manage their mandates responsibly
Role model for children ??? That conflicts with so many of their actions required to gain manage and keep their mandate

I like a leader who can inspire greatness without demonizing others .

Justin Trudeau is a fake personality , yet he inspired many to believe he would do great things
He was a complete failure, unbelievably untrustworthy and blamed everyone and anyone without taking accountability .
He has zero integrity and still has no idea what responsibility is

You do not seem to understand the difference between image and real character

if it makes you feel better youth should view Trump for what he is, a mean spirited vindictive man with a massive ego , who wants to fix some very serious problems his predecessors created.
He has some leadership qualities, this can not be denied. drive, determination and he thinks big
And he will likely achieve some of his goals and certainly steam roll some people doing this.
Some of the problems he will address just had to be fixed
He could also make a god awful mess
Certainly a bully who uses leverage to his advantage, as did Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan ,Nixon, William the Conqueror, FDR, Winston Churchill, Julius Cesar, Stalin, Hitler, Mao , Napoleon , Constantine the Great
some of these were obviously evil, others are treated well by the history books

None of which would have listed role model to children as a priority

I do not view any politician as a great role model for children

 

[jalimon]

Jimmy Carter nice guy- weak leader , clueless on some issues
JFK - womanizer, had mob friends, cheated on his wife, Daddy's illegal boot legging Money bought him the 1960 election in Chicago
Pierre Trudeau- Good diplomat - very divisive and arrogant, terrible manager, authoritarian , war measures act , irresponsible with $
Barack Obama- good salesman- , embraced the woke nonsense and very divisive. "The science is settled" (he lied- does not understand science at all )

none of these men were good role models for children
All politicians are compromised one way or another , its the nature of the game


todays youth were bent long before Trump took office

it is best to expect political leaders to act and manage their mandates responsibly
ole model for children ??? it conflicts with so many of their action required to gain manage and keep their mandate


Justin Trudeau is a fake personality , yet he inspired many to believe he would do great things
He was a complete failure and blamed everyone and anyone without taking accountability .
He has zero integrity and still has no idea what responsibility is

You do not seem to understand the difference between image and real character

if it makes you feel better youth should view Trump for what he is, a mean spirited vindictive man with a massive ego , who wants to fix some very serious problems his predecessors created.
He has some leadership qualities, this can not be denied. drive, determination and he thinks big
And he will likely achieve some of his goals and certainly steam roll some people doing this.
Some of the problems he will address just had to be fixed
He could also make a god awful mess
Certainly a bully who uses leverage to his advantage, as did Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan ,Nixon, William the Conqueror, FDR, Winston Churchill, Julius Cesar, Stalin, Hitler, Mao , Napoleon , Constantine the Great
some of these were obviously evil, others are treated well by the history books

None of which would have listed role model to children as a priority

I do not view any politician as a great role model for children

The only thing the US as to fix is inequalities. Other then that the US is the richest country on earth.

All other problems are pure inventions from the maga`s...

Anyhow your post is only good for the recycle bin as you do not consider Obama to be a role model as a father. WTF dude!

 

[shack]

Your definition of terrorism is based on race, otherwise you'd have to admit that your support of Kahane,

You excuse/admire terrorism based on race.