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PeterParker1000

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Free Speech:
You are confusing consequences with censorship.
If you racially abuse someone, harass a woman at work, or make anti-LGBTQ comments you are going to get fired from your job.
This is not an attack on your freedoms.
It is a consequence of your actions.
Social media censorship:
Has 2 sources.
1. The Republicans and Democrats have asked social media platforms to remove content they considered defamatory or as misinformation.
2. Social media platforms have their own rules as they are private and when people break those rules they get suspended. Again not an attack on free speech, but it is a consequence of your free speech.
I am not talking about workplace bullying, harassment, or racism. This has been consistent for several decades, although it is certainly being enforced more now than ever in mandatory workplace training.

I am talking about social media and in the public domain.. For example, many parents have had complaints on woke topics being forced into school curriculums only to be told to shut up. This is very unsettling for parents.

While social media platforms are private entities, significant government involvement in content moderation decisions can invoke First Amendment scrutiny, questioning whether these platforms act as proxies for state censorship. Facebook heavily censored people due to the government forcing them to. Zuck finally grew a pair and came to his senses.

These were major issues that the voting public had problems with that are already being walked back by the Trump administration.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I am talking about social media and in the public domain.. For example, many parents have had complaints on woke topics being forced into school curriculums only to be told to shut up. This is very unsettling for parents.

While social media platforms are private entities, significant government involvement in content moderation decisions can invoke First Amendment scrutiny, questioning whether these platforms act as proxies for state censorship. Facebook heavily censored people due to the government forcing them to. Zuck finally grew a pair and came to his senses.
The government involvement in moderation was on both sides.
Both the Republicans and the Democrats did it.
I dont think it is inherently wrong for a government to ask for misinformation to be moderated especially during times like COVID.
In schools what woke topics were being taught?
Parents should not have a political take on what is being taught in schools.
Schools should teach the right things independently and that also includes acceptance of diversity.
 

Valcazar

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Ah, so no, "we must root cause this". Cool.

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So are you really arguing that there is a similar amount of left-wing and right-wing terrorism in the US but right-wingers are just much more successful at it?
Or are you arguing that right-wingers are much worse at it and get caught and arrested more often?
 

JeanGary Diablo

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Is Yankistan where you are from? How is the culture there.
Yankistan is my
Around 2016 I was golfing in Myrtle and some southerners were asking what I thought of trump. Not wishing to have a 7 iron wrapped around my neck, I told them that seeing as I'm Canadian and our Conservative party is more left wing than your Democrats, my perspective of politics is so different from yours, I can't comment on what goes on in your country.

I was able to finish my round.
This is one of those massive differences between Canada and the US that you truly have to experience it first time to understand how incompatible we are as people. Asking perfect strangers questions about politics -- and especially religion -- is extremely taboo in Canada, but it seems to be common practice in the USA.

I remember being about 7 and visiting my grandparents in Arizona, where they spent winters. I was in the pool and a couple, probably in the 60s, started talking with me. They had met my parents the night before. They asked what church we attended and I said we didn't go to church, and they seemed shocked. Even at 7 I thought that question was fucking weird and inappropriate.
 
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Frankfooter

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I’m not justifying the actions but providing one possible reason for this and this is censorship. The left don’t get censored. The right have been heavily censored on free speech. They’ve been told what the new normal is as dictated by the liberal media and their government. This is the whole reason people like your fellow countryman, (whom I know you don’t care much for) Jordan Peterson has become such a popular world figure.

“If you tell people they can’t speak, they scream. If you tell them they can’t scream, they tear things down. Free speech is a precondition for peace.”

I anticipate major race conflicts in the UK as a result of social media censorship laws. The government can’t tell people what to do and think based. Trump is doing the same against Trans and I anticipate bad events coming from this as well from Ts.
Not true, look at the media suppression and attacks on free speech for both Palestine protesters and climate change protesters. I was talking to a an american tenured prof the other day and they said you just can't say the word 'Palestine' there without massive censure. On the right people are being censured over waving nazi flags and claiming that's an attack on free speech. People have lost their jobs for protesting on the left way more than on the right.

Now you're going to add in people protesting LGBTQ, again, in the states.

 

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Frankfooter

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Remember the story about the little boy that cried wolf?

When you call everyone that you disagree with a Nazi for a decade, people begin tuning you out.

That's why it's so dangerous when you abuse words for political and social capital.
apologies

 
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wigglee

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you prove my point


children are born innocent & uncorrupted
adults have the responsibility to shelter children from the harsh realities of life , until they mature enough to start understanding some issues can be very complex
and how to view issues from different perspectives

No politician left or right should be a role model for children as politicians are inherently biased one way or another

implanting a political bias in child before they understand what a bias is, pretty much defines indoctrination
Donald Trump, Hilary Clinton, Marco Rubio, the cackling moron Kamala etc are not role models for children

just as there should not be a check list of left or right leaning views to instill in children
totally avoided and missed my point.... Guy Caballero called... you're fired.
 
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JohnLarue

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totally avoided and missed my point.... Guy Caballero called... you're fired.
what planet are you on ?

you claimed
Children now have Donald Trump as a role model
and i just repeated my point
No politician left or right should be a role model for children as politicians are inherently biased one way or another
the rest is covered as well
so how will they learn right from wrong or treat others nicely?
again
No politician left or right should be a role model for children as politicians are inherently biased one way or another
is this your big point?
If Trump is right , I want to be wrong!
yes its a given Trump triggers you, nothing new there

your grade 4 teacher called.... you failed reading comprehension.... once again
she was so disappointed, after all she did spend that extra year repeating the lessons for you
 
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speakercontrols

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So are you really arguing that there is a similar amount of left-wing and right-wing terrorism in the US but right-wingers are just much more successful at it?
Or are you arguing that right-wingers are much worse at it and get caught and arrested more often?
Huh, didn't consider the 2nd part, cool. Thanks!
 
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speakercontrols

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Boy, you sure ran for the hills on that one, eh??
A really dumb question gets a glib answer. Do better at your thought process. Are you new to social media? You want a real answer, post a real question.

Define a Communist bhwhwhahahahaha:LOL:

Here you go, if you don't know - https://www.oed.com/dictionary/communist_n?tab=factsheet#8778141

Ya think your post is some sort of 'gotcha' with a deep subtle meaning that calls me out & that will make me entirely re-think my entire life choices? :rolleyes::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

How old are you?
 

speakercontrols

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So are you saying then that Timothy McVeigh, or Dylann Roof for example had legitimate causes for their terrorism and if they were in power, their attack considered legitimate?
I don't think what they did was legitimate but I betcha some of those in power in the US government right now do....tell me I'm wrong.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I don't think what they did was legitimate but I betcha some of those in power in the US government right now do....tell me I'm wrong.
Well yes, there are always those who cheer on terrorism depending on their politics.
But I guess the general consensus is terror is not justifiable which is what I meant in my earlier post as well.
 

wigglee

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what planet are you on ?

you claimed

and i just repeated my point


the rest is covered as well

again


is this your big point?

yes its a given Trump triggers you, nothing new there

your grade 4 teacher called.... you failed reading comprehension.... once again
she was so disappointed, after all she did spend that extra year repeating the lessons for you
Sammy Maudlin called.... he wants to tell you that saying "politicians shouldn't be role models" doesn't mean that they aren't and Trump definitely is.... do you think he is a positive role model in any way?
 
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Frankfooter

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Well yes, there are always those who cheer on terrorism depending on their politics.
But I guess the general consensus is terror is not justifiable which is what I meant in my earlier post as well.
You're missing the point, when people use the word 'terrorist' its not about the tactics, its about labelling your opponent as outside of human rights and the law to justify your own terrorism. Bonus points if you use it based on race.
 
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