How to recognize a far- leftie

Frankfooter

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The only thing the US as to fix is inequalities. Other then that the US is the richest country on earth.

All other problems are pure inventions from the maga`s...

Anyhow your post is only good for the recycle bin as you do not consider Obama to be a role model as a father. WTF dude!
Money is the only metric for right wingers.
 
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Frankfooter

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the debt the us govt has accumulated over 240 years is going to double inside of the next 9 years
something has to give and its not going to be good for anyone
The lefties have the most to lose
Trump is already responsible for 1/4 of the debt from the last time.
You really think he'll fix it?
 

richaceg

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The FOX broadcast covered it up. The broadcast going outside of the US clearly shows he was booed, which is what many in attendance have reported.

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The FOX broadcast covered it up. The broadcast going outside of the US clearly shows he was booed, which is what many in attendance have reported.

Cheerios
Lol there was one famous person that got booed...it wasn't Trump...heck even mahones kelce and the players were happy to see Trump....nice try spinning it...
 

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He could also make a god awful mess
You got one thing right. I did not say those leaders were perfect. I said they inspired people to achieve and grow with a positive vision for a better future. Thanks to Reagan, Bush and Trump, that future is looking bleak and young people see the cut throat meanness and the inequality and more importantly, they see the open flaunting of uncivilized moral behaviour, especially by Trump.
 
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K Douglas

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Money is the only metric for right wingers.
Saw this doing the rounds yesterday on X. Amazing how lefties believe that Cuba is some sort of paradise yet people die trying to flee it. Where's the poverty rate metric here - somewhere between 80 and 90 percent of that population lives in poverty.
 

JohnLarue

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You got one thing right. I did not say those leaders were perfect. I said they inspired people to achieve and grow with a positive vision for a better future. Thanks to Reagan, Bush and Trump, that future is looking bleak and young people see the cut throat meanness and the inequality and more importantly, they see the open flaunting of civilized moral behaviour, especially by Trump.
sure this is a concern, these things do go in cycles

for every action there is a reaction
Trump is the reaction against the unbelievable irresponsible govt spending / borrowing, money printing, the DIE , Net zero and gender insanity and ever creeping intrusion of govt into peoples lives.
I fully expect post Trump there could be a rebound of left silliness and irresponsibility, unless of course he is successful in shrinking govt and the economy booms .

you guys are on the wrong side of the public debate fence on way too many issues
defending government spending waste and every increasing govt debt is the pathway to election purgatory
it has to stop or the debt will implode the economy world wide
right now that appears to be your plan in order to eliminate capitalism or the left is just plain too irresponsible to be trusted with the public purse

you might want to re think the huge step to the left and offer something more centralist to the electorate
there has to be an intelligent, more caring leader who can also be responsible
 
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JohnLarue

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So in light of that, you must obviously object to any proposed charity/aid/tax breaks to the wealthy.
not on borrowed money
the govt has no right to borrow money in other people names to give it away

the tax breaks to the wealthy is more debatable , however if they put their wealth to work it grows the economy
Right now nobody will put their money into Canada to work without a huge government hand out attached because of the Trudeau liberals
 

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Saw this doing the rounds yesterday on X. Amazing how lefties believe that Cuba is some sort of paradise yet people die trying to flee it. Where's the poverty rate metric here - somewhere between 80 and 90 percent of that population lives in poverty.
So you're saying that in Cuba, the average person is able to "keep up with the Joneses. I'm sure it's less than that in the US.
 

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not on borrowed money
the govt has no right to borrow money in other people names to give it away

the tax breaks to the wealthy is more debatable , however if they put their wealth to work it grows the economy
Right now nobody will put their money into Canada to work without a huge government hand out attached because of the Trudeau liberals
Apologies for not stating it more clearly. I was inferring that tax breaks for the rich are akin to charity and foreign aid in terms of the US debt. It takes away money the gov't could have used.
 

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When I was young, I was poor.

After a life of hard work, I am no longer young.
 
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Saw this doing the rounds yesterday on X. Amazing how lefties believe that Cuba is some sort of paradise yet people die trying to flee it. Where's the poverty rate metric here - somewhere between 80 and 90 percent of that population lives in poverty.
That`s exactly what we are trying to make people like you realize with metrics like this. Amazingly, the richest country on earth is so poor that a majority of its population cannot outlive one of the poorest country on earth.
 

JohnLarue

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Apologies for not stating it more clearly. I was inferring that tax breaks for the rich are akin to charity and foreign aid in terms of the US debt. It takes away money the gov't could have used.
here in lies the problem
"It takes away money the gov't could have used."

the money was not the governments to begin with

the govt has no right to borrow money in other people names to give it away

tax breaks for the rich are akin to charity and foreign aid in terms of the US debt.
absolutely not
charity and foreign aid $ do not get invested into job creating investments

sending $ overseas to advance DEI and gender ideology is not foreign aid and is not supported by anywhere near a majority of tax payers

re charity: a healthy well managed growing economy can support way more charitable initiatives than an overtaxed , underproductive debt burdened economy

we are heading down the slippery slope of a government debt crisis that will devastate the very people you want to help in addition to everyone else
 
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shack

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here in lies the problem
"It takes away money the gov't could have used."

the money was not the governments to begin with

the govt has no right to borrow money in other people names to give it away


absolutely not
charity and foreign aid $ do not get invested into job creating investments

sending $ overseas to advance DEI and gender ideology is not foreign aid and is not supported by anywhere near a majority of tax payers

re charity: a healthy well managed growing economy can support way more charitable initiatives than an overtaxed , underproductive debt burdened economy

we are heading down the slippery slope of a government debt crisis that will devastate the very people you want to help in addition to everyone else
I said it in my last post and I guess I need to repeat myself.

I am simply saying that by giving the wealthy tax breaks, they are depriving themselves of revenue. I am not talking about them giving away or spending money that is already in their possession. But they are losing the potential to make money.
 

JohnLarue

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I said it in my last post and I guess I need to repeat myself.
its odd to repeat what you know is wrong

I am simply saying that by giving the wealthy tax breaks, they are depriving themselves of revenue. I am not talking about them giving away or spending money that is already in their possession. But they are losing the potential to make money.
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I am simply saying that by giving away money , that it borrowed in other people name, the government is irresponsible depriving itself of the ability to stay solvent.

fyi
when anyone has trillions of dollars in debt , they have no money that is already in their possession.

the debt the US government has accumulated over its 240 year history is projected to double in the next 9 years, given the status quo
so your strategy of kicking the can down the road and offloading the liabilities for your virtue signaling generosity onto future generation will blow up in your face if you live long enough.

Please stay healthy as I would not wish you should miss the horror show
 

Frankfooter

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Saw this doing the rounds yesterday on X. Amazing how lefties believe that Cuba is some sort of paradise yet people die trying to flee it. Where's the poverty rate metric here - somewhere between 80 and 90 percent of that population lives in poverty.
Its still worthy of discussion.

With about 1/4 of the US functionally living in poverty they are living in worse conditions than Cuba, where they at least have education and health care.
 
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shack

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its odd to repeat what you know is wrong
I am simply saying that by giving away money , that it borrowed in other people name, the government is irresponsible depriving itself of the ability to stay solvent.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. Giving a tax break to the wealthy is not giving away borrowed money. Or is this a cognitive issue you have.
 
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