How do you feel about a SURPRISED banning?

[krayjee]

I may be wrong but It makes me wonder whether the lady he mentioned here numerous times here might also be a reason. Just wondering bcuz one of the MPA I was helping promote numerous times in here had to ask me to stop posting about her last month even tho' she appreciated the surge in her business cuz lots of shit disturbers driving her crazy by asking or telling her about me, my postings and my relationship with her. I over did it and went a bit too far just like OG2 had. JMHO.

 

[Mod100]

I actually seldom have the opportunity to entertain TERB users. 80% of my guests aren't on the boards and the 20% that are come from another board but some of them have accounts here as well. I do track my advertising closely so I know where to spend my advertising $. I advertise here to brand incase I decide to start traveling and so that I can participate in the threads that catch my eye. The boards have never been a source of income for me but I don't mind supporting them financially as they are a great source of entertainment and cheaper per month than a good dinner out. I will reiterate that the MODs have a thankless job and I admire their resiliency. I don't have the patience to do what they do...

cat

There's another board? Can't be.

TERB is a business. It makes money by selling advertising. The amount of money an ad sells for is based on page views and click throughs, tracked by software like NATS. The more visitors, the more ads sell for. What brings people to TERB? Information and discussions that are interesting and entertaining.

Most TERB memebrs never post. Look at the forums and you see only avery small number (maybe two dozen) of high-post count members contribute the bulk of the volume, ignoring the stupid "wgho is available in Markham" posts. Without those high-volume posters, TERB would be less interesting and hence have fewer visitors, and hence make less money.

Banning a low-post-count member for stupid comments is one thing. Banning a high-post count member for something unexplained is another. I read through eight pages of OG2's comments and I see nothing warranting banning. There was back-and-forth with suckme4ever and raj08536 but they are still members and OG2 gets banned. He is not the only doctor on this board but he was the one offering advice and information to straighten out the misinformation presented. He was always a proponent of treatign the ladies properly and the fact they made good girlfriends and wifes. While others may not have agreed with the latter point, the discussions were interesting. I saw nothing in any of his almost 4,000 posts that warrant a ban under the guidelines laid down in the document the mods created.

I got an email from OG2. He says he asked the mods by email on Friday why he had been banned. He has received no reply. He also says he has no idea why he was banned and received no warnings in the last few months at all. So, the mods appear to have made an arbitrary decision for reasons unknown which they won't explain to the member (even though their own rules say they will). They ban a valued contributing member like OG2 but do nothing against individuals like suckme4evere and raj08536 who contribute absolutely nothing and are obnoxious to boot.

No other banning on TERB has generated the support for a member like this thread has for OG2. You'd think the mods would consider this a good sign for OG2 and either allow him back to be a valued contributor or at least explain to OG2 why he was banned. It is a matter of "I don't have to justify my decisions", and that's just as they state in the guidelines for this board so that's their right as moderators and owners. It just seems very heavy handed to me and obviously to the others who have asked for a reconsideration of this banning, considering the value OG2 brought here, and the amount of support he has garnered.

I may be wrong but It makes me wonder whether the lady he mentioned here numerous times here might also be a reason. Just wondering bcuz one of the MPA I was helping promote numerous times in here had to ask me to stop posting about her last month even tho' she appreciated the surge in her business cuz lots of guys driving her crazy by asking or telling her about me, my postings and my relationship with her. I over did it and went a bit too far just like OG2 had. JMHO.

No. Re-read my comments.

 

[ogibowt]

I suspect the poster will be back here sooner than later...new name...new IP......and then let the games begin tryna ID him.

take Cycleguy for instance........

cycleguy/celticman...hmm...................your on to something frank

 

[rgkv]

I know one member has over 30 handles and responds to himself from his different handle.

WHAT!!!!!...if this is true?? and the mods can see our IP address why is this allowed

 

[dulynoted]

No they're not.

Right. Tor makes it trivial.

 

[ogibowt]

What is the point of this thread? Are we asking the mods to tell us why OG2 was banned? Or are we asking for clemency for OG2? I doubt either goal can be achieved. Oh well. Move on, nothing to see.

i admire guys, who tell us what,s important to post or not important to post...they are so
insightful......................................................if sarcasm was a banable item, id be gone years ago ..lol..

 

[LickRus]

I suspect the poster will be back here sooner than later...new name...new IP......and then let the games begin tryna ID him.

QUOTE]

You'll know its him once you'll see the guy over promote Flirt. I support the Mods, its not an easy job, most of the time when you ban someone, there are those who try to make the Mods look bad . Good Job Mods.

 

[dulynoted]

No. Re-read my comments.

So you've communicated back to OG2 why he was banned? He claims he received nothing from TERB mods.

Edit: Never mind. It won't make any difference. For TERB mods to now change their mind after stating OG2 deserves a "permanent ban" for something he did would be a loss of face. Even though you've got quite a few respected TERB members speaking out to support OG2, the simple fact is to change the banning now would be embarassing to the Mods. So OG2 did something no one else noticed or objected to and got banned, while others who are far more obnoxious stay members. It doesn't matter what value (real or otherwise) he brought to this board at this point.

 

[krayjee]

I actually seldom have the opportunity to entertain TERB users. 80% of my guests aren't on the boards and the 20% that are come from another board but some of them have accounts here as well. I do track my advertising closely so I know where to spend my advertising $. I advertise here to brand incase I decide to start traveling and so that I can participate in the threads that catch my eye. The boards have never been a source of income for me but I don't mind supporting them financially as they are a great source of entertainment and cheaper per month than a good dinner out. I will reiterate that the MODs have a thankless job and I admire their resiliency. I don't have the patience to do what they do...

cat

This is true. Also, most terb members don't read reviews they just look at ads. Many men who find an SP via terb aren't even registered and can't see the reviews.
I'm sure it varies from girl to girl and agency to agency but for me personally reviews have little to no impact on business.

Also a lot of the reviews come from fake or duplicate handles - am I allowed to point this out? I know one member has over 30 handles and responds to himself from his different handles. And a lot of other issues with reviews (ulterior motives, discounts, & spite) and I don't think the mods could really control it, people are going to do what they want to do if they really want to. But for that reason most of the guys I meet tell me they don't read reviews and wouldn't believe a word of it if they did.

So I would say TERB advertising is profitable but the business that comes from reviews is a very small percentage, 10% at the most.

May be so for some but all the ladies and especially hidden gems I had reviewed or promote had appreciated me and Terb cuz their business had surged significantly and some even had to beg me not to post too much cuz it was more than they can handle. Terb played a big part for sure. Just for example Maggie the mpa now on vacation was seeing only 4-6 customers a day and it surged to 10-12 customers a day after my review she had to beg me not to post too often about her cuz she got 18 customers at one point in one day just 2 days after my review followed by 15-16 customers a day which was a surprise to her and her boss. MayDFK the model looking SP was also another good example. She was just a no body before the review in Terb, now you have to line up to book her and pay 400-500 bucks an hr and she picks and choose who she sees. If you do not get enough business from Terb, there is something missing for sure. What ever it may be. JMHO.

 

[studs lonigan]

May be so for some but all the ladies and especially hidden gems I had reviewed or promote had appreciated me and Terb cuz their business had surged significantly and some even had to beg me not to post too much cuz it was more than they can handle. Terb played a big part for sure. Just for example Maggie the mpa now on vacation was seeing only 4-6 customers a day and it surged to 10-12 customers a day after my review she had to beg me not to post too often about her cuz she got 18 customers at one point in one day just 2 days after my review which was a surprise to her and her boss. MayDFK the model looking SP was also another good example. She was just a no body before the review in Terb, now you have to line up to book her and pay 400-500 bucks an hr. If you do not get enough business from Terb, there is something missing for sure. What ever it may be. JMHO.

++1 May.Lee started here and so did countless others , it's a great site ,BUT not the only one
studs

 

[studs lonigan]

I would say about %75 of my clientele are active on terb. The rest find me on eros or find me perusing the ads on this board

Hmm I cant imagine why you would not get 99 % of terb lookers an writers, u show a strong case for vistation

LOLL
One of my favorite photo's

 

[mtm2011]

Because there are ways to make it difficult for a forum to ban you solely based on IP. And there are ways to get around other methods. Also there are ways to change your IP and make it complicated for somebody to find the true IP.

It's pretty easy to ban most common proxies from any site, or scan for those ports on connect. Hide your IP then try to edit a wikipedia article, you'll see what I mean. Unless you are going to dig around for obscure proxies, in which case it probably won't be very fast or stable. Tor browsing is usually slow as molasses as well.

 

[skybird]

So you've communicated back to OG2 why he was banned? He claims he received nothing from TERB mods.

Edit: Never mind. It won't make any difference. For TERB mods to now change their mind after stating OG2 deserves a "permanent ban" for something he did would be a loss of face. Even though you've got quite a few respected TERB members speaking out to support OG2, the simple fact is to change the banning now would be embarassing to the Mods. So OG2 did something no one else noticed or objected to and got banned, while others who are far more obnoxious stay members. It doesn't matter what value (real or otherwise) he brought to this board at this point.

Fear of loss of face is cowardice

 

[wangbang]

But for that reason most of the guys I meet tell me they don't read reviews and wouldn't believe a word of it if they did.

Tiffany, over the years I have told many, many SP's and dancers that I have never even heard of Terb.

I may even have told you that.

 

[wazup]

This is true. Also, most terb members don't read reviews they just look at ads. Many men who find an SP via terb aren't even registered and can't see the reviews.
I'm sure it varies from girl to girl and agency to agency but for me personally reviews have little to no impact on business.

Also a lot of the reviews come from fake or duplicate handles - am I allowed to point this out? I know one member has over 30 handles and responds to himself from his different handles. And a lot of other issues with reviews (ulterior motives, discounts, & spite) and I don't think the mods could really control it, people are going to do what they want to do if they really want to. But for that reason most of the guys I meet tell me they don't read reviews and wouldn't believe a word of it if they did.

So I would say TERB advertising is profitable but the business that comes from reviews is a very small percentage, 10% at the most.

This girl hits the nail on the head, most reviews are BS or exaggerated, nice to hear it from a girl though, I've said it before but get pounced on. You're also at the higher end of the price scale which also wouldn't attract too many terb members.

 

[bobistheowl]

I read through eight pages of OG2's comments and I see nothing warranting banning.

It was mentioned in a previous post that the 'smoking gun' thread was removed.

Re: Ads and reviews: Someone who's banned can still read most of the board. The exception is the review section. I would think this would also apply to people who haven't signed up for an account.

Re: IP addresses displayed to Mods: I'm a moderator of another board unrelated to this industry, and I'm also a member of a few private torrent sites where the members can see their IP address on their profile page. In all cases, the IP address shown is not the same one I see if I run ipconfig in DOS command prompt, and a different IP address is shown on each of those sites. They are, however, consistent from day to day.

On the site where I'm a Mod, a lot of information is displayed that non mods don't see, (country of origin, ISP, IP address, browser, and operating system). All of the information displayed except the IP address is accurate. The notes in a member's profile will also tell if the IP address in use has been used previously, or if it is currently associated with another account. It's likely that this information would also be available to Mods here.

As long as an IP address, (even an inaccurate one), is assigned to an account, software can easily determine if the same computer has been used to join the site more than once. We usually only ban people for Spam advertising, (usually things like trying to sell knock offs of NFL jerseys), and the history of the IP address is a guideline as to whether we would just hide the post, send a warning, apply a ten day ban, or apply a permanent ban, (we have only those four options).

 

[dulynoted]

It was mentioned in a previous post that the 'smoking gun' thread was removed.

Yes, but there's nothing else close to offensive or a smoking gun in the comments I read. If several or most were offensive then do you really think there would be so many questions in this case? There are a lot of high-profile TERB members have spoken out here asking for clemency in what looks like a severely isolated (and maybe misunderstood) thread. If the mods had said many posts were bad, sure, ban away. But one thread out of thousands? With no history of offesnive posting or obnoxious behavior? A total ban seems draconian, if not extreme. IF the mods felt he crossed the line he should have been warned and then suspended, not barred permanently.

So Mods, doesn't five pages of "WTF?" from long-time members, asking for a reconsideration of what must be an isolated and out-of-character action, speak volumes about our disappointment at your actions? Or do we all have to fear for similar treatment for innocuous statements made out of frustration or short-term anger? Whatever was said, I doubt it warranted such an action, especially with no communication to the accused.

Your honours, we plead for clemency in a situation that must have been caused by extenuating circumstances and point to a consistent positive value to society for the offender, taking into account the good words said by his peers as to his outstanding character, and ask for a reversal of the verdict!

 

[dulynoted]

Tiffany, over the years I have told many, many SP's and dancers that I have never even heard of Terb.

I never tell an MP or SP I have read about them on TERB, or that I even know what it is. It might taint the experience. I bery much doubt 90% of any provider's customers are ignorant of TERB. Look at the number of members here. Just not statistically plausible for that many not to be TERB members or lurkers.

 

[freestuff]

I don't know if the whole 5 pages is about asking clemency. I, for one, am simply curious as to why OG2 was banned. I'm probably not going to get an answer. The thread has also diverted to the "importance" of TERB on escorts' business. You should create a poll and see if TERB members really support OG2.

Yes, but there's nothing else close to offensive or a smoking gun in the comments I read. If several or most were offensive then do you really think there would be so many questions in this case? There are a lot of high-profile TERB members have spoken out here asking for clemency in what looks like a severely isolated (and maybe misunderstood) thread. If the mods had said many posts were bad, sure, ban away. But one thread out of thousands? With no history of offesnive posting or obnoxious behavior? A total ban seems draconian, if not extreme. IF the mods felt he crossed the line he should have been warned and then suspended, not barred permanently.

So Mods, doesn't five pages of "WTF?" from long-time members, asking for a reconsideration of what must be an isolated and out-of-character action, speak volumes about our disappointment at your actions? Or do we all have to fear for similar treatment for innocuous statements made out of frustration or short-term anger? Whatever was said, I doubt it warranted such an action, especially with no communication to the accused.

Your honours, we plead for clemency in a situation that must have been caused by extenuating circumstances and point to a consistent positive value to society for the offender, taking into account the good words said by his peers as to his outstanding character, and ask for a reversal of the verdict!

 

[dcbogey]

yes we did that nearly 10 years ago https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?62083-TERB-Posting-Guidelines

And often times the enforcement of those rules seems ... a little spotty.