Wow such hostility, I am neither a liar nor am I easily duped but the fact is the Israelis are committee war crimes and genocide. And considering the history of the Jewish people I'd say this a war that they're waging makes them one of the biggest hypocrites in history
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I haven't noticed much eradicating. Can anyone tell me when the Gaza Famine is going to happen???
War crimes??.... When?
I see stuff that could be killing the wrong person by mistake. That happens in all wars. It's not a war crime. It's a mistake.
And "genocide"?...... HAMAS' own figures - highly suspect, since their apparent entire strategy involved complaining about Israeli "genocide" to the world media - have 34k casualties in 6 months out of 2M people in the combat zone. Sorry, that's not genocide. Genocide is Stalin killing 10 million Ukrainians or Milosevic machine gunning Croatian women and children into mass graves. 34k casualties is standard for urban fighting.
Hilarious.
You just put anyone who posts legit reports on ignore and declare there is nothing happening.
However, you've got no resolutions passed by the UNGA or UNSC saying that Israel has committed genocide or practises apartheid.
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Kautilya said:
"You still hurt with that schooling I did you yesterday" - is a grammatically incorrect sentence, I think it is time for you to go back to school Rich!
How ironic.
Kautilya said:
No. I got the UN report
Kautilya said:
I also got this thing called common sense.
Are you trying to tell us that those last 2 sentences of yours are grammatically correct? LOL. You just keep shooting yourself in the foot and especially so when you try to show us how smart you are. "Try" is the operative word there.
If you need help figuring out why those are grammatically incorrect, I'll be happy to tutor you.
"You still hurt with that schooling I did you yesterday" - is a grammatically incorrect sentence, I think it is time for you to go back to school Rich!
How ironic.
Kautilya said:
No. I got the UN report
Kautilya said:
I also got this thing called common sense.
Are you trying to tell us that those last 2 sentences of yours are grammatically correct? LOL. You just keep shooting yourself in the foot and especially so when you try to show us how smart you are. "Try" is the operative word there.
If you need help figuring out why those are grammatically incorrect, I'll be happy to tutor you.
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The "job" from day 1 is to free the hostages AND eradicate Hamas. It has nothing to do with the Gazans. If Hamas surrenders, the job is done.
I don't believe that it is a numbers game. There has never been a war where the casualties have been equal on both sides. There are always more casualties on the losing side. That's why they eventually surrender. They knew 100% in advance what the consequences of OCT.7 were going to be. That was their plan so that they could gain sympathy by playing the victim card. Using Gazans as pawns was their strategy.
Do you think that Oct.7 was a smart thing to do? Geno refuses to answer.
That is nothing more than your opinion.
If those were actually facts then we'd have resolutions/declarations passed by the UNGA and/or the UNSC stating as such. Following the established rules of both of those bodies, nothing like that was passed. Without those resolutions it is impossible and improper to state those are facts. Sorry.
You are correct that it is repetitive and your explanations have repetitively been shown to hold no water every time..
You would like that to be true but it is 100% incorrect. Those parties are not in a position to pass binding resolutions. That is the job of of the UNGA and/or the UNSC. As such this is merely your own personal opinion. Nothing more. And you've already stated that you are very biased against against Israel, so how can your opinion be taken seriously.
I would take the opinion of the UNGA and/or the UNSC more seriously than yours if they passed those resolutions. Those are THE ONLY bodies in the world, whose opinions count and are binding. I keep asking you to produce those resolutions but you have utterly failed.
None of those bodies are the UNGA or the UNSC who are the only bodies who can pass binding resolutions. Those are the bodies that speak for all the recognized nations of the world.
No, the job has always been to kill as many as he can get away with, to keep the genocide going long enough to stall his corruption case and stall the daily protests over his actions.
He already proved that he can bring home the hostages when he negotiated with Hamas and they held a truce.
But he prefers to kill more women and children.
You said it yourself
What does some bullshit some Bibi guy said about some Al Husseini guy have to do with me or my comment is beyond me.
Also what is going on in gaza IS NOT A FUCKING GENOCIDE YOU RETARDED LYING HATE MONGER. Civilians died when there is conflict in built up areas. 30K in 7 months is not a fucking genocide attempt, if anything it is a sign of restraint.
Israel Tried to Prevent Civilian Casualties More Than Any Nation in History
Israel has taken more measures to avoid needless civilian harm than virtually any other nation that's fought an urban war.
www.newsweek.com
So I have no idea what your comment has to do with mine, because there is no connection except another feeble attempt by you to make fun of someone and once again falling flat on your face and of course you will not admit you failed, either because stubborn or you really can't see it.
Did Hamas not attack Israel on the 7th killing and taking hostages
Was it not entirely predictable that Israel was respond with an attack
Was it also not obvious that in any military attack in a built up area that civilians would be killed.
So how is the attack not an attempt by Hamas to goad Israel into an attack.
You said it yourself in the underlined bit. Your own fucking words.
And yet you turn around with your face palm gif.
Fucking clown shoes
Oh yeah that Israeli genocide
"
By contrast, Israel provided days and then weeks of warnings, as well as time for civilians to evacuate multiple cities in northern Gaza before starting the main air-ground attack of urban areas. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) employed their practice of calling and texting ahead of an air strike as well as roof-knocking, where they drop small munitions on the roof of a building notifying everyone to evacuate the building before a strike.
No military has ever implemented any of these practices in war before.
The IDF has also air-dropped flyers to give civilians instructions on when and how to evacuate, including with safe corridors. (The U.S. implemented these tactics in its second battle of Fallujah and 2016-2017 operation against ISIS in Mosul.) Israel has dropped over 520,000 pamphlets, and broadcast over radio and through social media messages to provide instruction for civilians to leave combat areas.
Israel's use of real phone calls to civilians in combat areas (19,734), SMS texts (64,399) and pre-recorded calls (almost 6 million) to provide instructions on evacuations is also unprecedented."
The IDF also conducted daily four-hour pauses over multiple consecutive days of the war to allow civilians to leave active combat areas. While pauses for civilian evacuations after a war or battle has started is not completely new, the frequency and predictability of these in Gaza have been historic.
Another historical first in war measures to prevent civilian causalities was Israel's distribution of IDF military maps and urban warfare graphics to assist civilians with day to day evacuations and alerting them to where the IDF will be operating. No military in history has ever done this.
It is outrageous that Hamas spent decades and billions of dollars building tunnels under civilian homes and protected areas for the sole purpose of using Palestinian civilians as human shields. It is outrageous that Hamas does not allow civilians in their tunnels, that Hamas says and takes actions to create as many civilian deaths as possible—both its own and Israeli. The atrocities committed on Oct. 7 are outrageous. That Hamas fights in civilian clothes, intermixed within civilians, and launches rockets at Israeli civilians from Palestinian civilian areas is outrageous.
The only people who want Palestinian civilians dead are Hamas and their supporters like you and Frankie
YOU and Frankie want dead civilians. You are the monsters.
This is not what trying to kill as many people civilians as you can looks like. Actually it's the exact oppose.
30K in 7 months with a weak terrorist opposition.
In the battle of Berlin, in just 2 weeks 125K civilians were killed, not that the Russians were purposely targeting civilians [not trying to avoid killing them either] and the Germans were not using their own people as human shields.
Israel Tried to Prevent Civilian Casualties More Than Any Nation in History
Israel has taken more measures to avoid needless civilian harm than virtually any other nation that's fought an urban war.
www.newsweek.com
Oh yeah that Israeli genocide
"
By contrast, Israel provided days and then weeks of warnings, as well as time for civilians to evacuate multiple cities in northern Gaza before starting the main air-ground attack of urban areas. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) employed their practice of calling and texting ahead of an air strike as well as roof-knocking, where they drop small munitions on the roof of a building notifying everyone to evacuate the building before a strike.
No military has ever implemented any of these practices in war before.
The IDF has also air-dropped flyers to give civilians instructions on when and how to evacuate, including with safe corridors. (The U.S. implemented these tactics in its second battle of Fallujah and 2016-2017 operation against ISIS in Mosul.) Israel has dropped over 520,000 pamphlets, and broadcast over radio and through social media messages to provide instruction for civilians to leave combat areas.
Israel's use of real phone calls to civilians in combat areas (19,734), SMS texts (64,399) and pre-recorded calls (almost 6 million) to provide instructions on evacuations is also unprecedented."
The IDF also conducted daily four-hour pauses over multiple consecutive days of the war to allow civilians to leave active combat areas. While pauses for civilian evacuations after a war or battle has started is not completely new, the frequency and predictability of these in Gaza have been historic.
Another historical first in war measures to prevent civilian causalities was Israel's distribution of IDF military maps and urban warfare graphics to assist civilians with day to day evacuations and alerting them to where the IDF will be operating. No military in history has ever done this.
It is outrageous that Hamas spent decades and billions of dollars building tunnels under civilian homes and protected areas for the sole purpose of using Palestinian civilians as human shields. It is outrageous that Hamas does not allow civilians in their tunnels, that Hamas says and takes actions to create as many civilian deaths as possible—both its own and Israeli. The atrocities committed on Oct. 7 are outrageous. That Hamas fights in civilian clothes, intermixed within civilians, and launches rockets at Israeli civilians from Palestinian civilian areas is outrageous.
Fucking balls on you to keep calling what Israel is doing genocide when they are doing everything beyond reasonably possible to avoid killing civilians and Hamas is purposely trying to do everything they can to get as many of their own people killed as possible
The only people who want Palestinian civilians dead are Hamas and their supporters like you and Frankie
YOU and Frankie want dead civilians. You are the monsters. But then you support terrorists and their land to sea genocide dreams, so...
So the question is, will Fankfooter admit that he has lied repeatedly about his claims that Israel is committing genocide, that they are trying to kill as many people as possible. It should be obvious to anyone that this was not true, 30K in 7 months in a built up area is a sign of restraint not murderous intent, 30K his fucking numbers, but with the above articles it should seal the deal
Nah, of course not. Frankie is a hate monger. Much like his Nazi heroes he will tell lie after lie to justify his hate and get other people on board.
Nah, of course not. Frankie is a hate monger. Much like his Nazi heroes he will tell lie after lie to justify his hate and get other people on board.
I really thought you have at least a point...turns out you're just idiotic....Yeah I said it because unless and until a massive amounts of appalling deaths happen, the west, particularly the US will not pay any attention to it. 35K is not enough for them. It is injustice, but that is the way it is.
It IS a genocide. EDUCATE YOURSELF. Stop being illiterate and repeating the same bullshit over and over again from western mainstream media.
For a crime of genocide to happen, the number of people DO NOT MATTER. It could just be 10 people, but if it meets the minimum criteria for genocide as set forth by the genocide convention, then it is genocide.
Conclusions
93. The overwhelming nature and scale of Israel’s assault on Gaza and the destructive conditions of life it has inflicted reveal an intent to physically destroy Palestinians as a group. This report finds that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating the commission of the following acts of genocide against Palestinians in Gaza has been met: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to groups’ members; and deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part. Genocidal acts were approved and given effect following statements of genocidal intent issued by senior military and government officials.
94. Israel has sought to conceal its eliminationist conduct of hostilities sanctioning the commission of international crimes as IHL-abiding. Distorting IHL customary rules, including distinction, proportionality and precautions, Israel has de facto treated an entire protected group and its life-sustaining infrastructure as ‘terrorist’ or ‘terrorist-supporting’, thus transforming everything and everyone into either a target or collateral damage, hence killable or destroyable. In this way, no Palestinian in Gaza is safe by definition. This has had devastating, intentional effects, costing the lives of tens of thousands of Palestinians, destroying the fabric of life in Gaza and causing irreparable harm to its entire population.
95. Israel’s genocide on the Palestinians in Gaza is an escalatory stage of a longstanding settler colonial process of erasure. For over seven decades this process has suffocated the Palestinian people as a group – demographically, culturally, economically and politically –, seeking to displace it and expropriate and control its land and resources. The ongoing Nakba must be stopped and remedied once and for all. This is an imperative owed to the victims of this highly preventable tragedy, and to future generations in that land.
Oh you read an article, so it is not genocide!
Do you have any self awareness of what you post at all? Read your previous post to which I responded. You said that Hamas goaded Israel into killing their own people.
Let me put it in a simpler way. If someone pisses you off and you punch them in the face, you are the one guilty of assault. You cannot claim that the other guy goaded you into doing something illegal. Get that through your head.
You are blessed because you will never know what you don't know.All of what you said is incorrect and they will remain incorrect however many times you repeat it. You are also wrong that UNGA resolutions are binding. They are not. They are non-binding. As I said before, given you don't even know this, you have no idea of what you are talking about.
The ICJ and ICC are the international courts that determine whether or not a country has violated the Genocide conventions. The UN Rapporteurs are the independent human rights experts who produce reports on war crimes, human rights and genocide.
The UNSC is composed of countries who are themselves war criminals. The UNGA is composed of countries most of whom are either powerless or are countries that act in their own interests. It is irrelevant what these bunch of useless idiots condemn or dont condemn.
Therefore only the opinion of the ICJ, ICC and the UN Rapporteurs matter when it comes to genocide because they are the more objective entities in this matter.
Sooo butthurt at the repeated beatings you have taken in any debate with me, which usually ends with you pretzeling yourself.
You keep repeating the same nonsensical arguments over and over in your long winded replies. Long replies do not make them any less wrong.
Let's try this.
We agree that the UN is leading organization of the recognized nations of the world. So when the body of the UN makes a decision whether or not to issue a binding there is no higher authority to override them.
If the UN passes a resolution saying that they condemn something there is no such thing as a smaller portion or arm of the UN overriding them. Conversely, if the UN refuses to pass a resolution condemning a country of a certain act, then there is no smaller arm of the UN that can override what the decision is of the body of the UN. Even you have admitted that the body of the UN, the UNGA, has not passed any resolution claiming that Israel has committed apartheid or genocide. They did so in the early 60's when addressing S. African policies. I've previously produced those for you. They have done no such with with Israel.
At this point I refuse to allow myself to be dragged down to your level of intellect and argue with you as if you understand anything more that what your admitted bias allows you to absorb and process. I demean myself every time I engage you. From now on, I'll only explain things once to you.
As the saying goes: Never argue with an i...t. They'll only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
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Gaza is a concentration camp, there is nowhere safe for civilians.
Israel destroyed all the universities, hospitals, bakeries, warehouses and 70% of all buildings.
They dropped 3 Hiroshimas worth of explosives in a walled in refugee camp the size of the Isle of Montreal.
Then after they destroyed all the hospitals they started assassinating all the doctors and blocking all medical aid.
All while blocking all food through for 6 months while they also destroyed all farm and took most of the farm land over as 'buffer'.
Its genocide.
USAID: Israel has already Imposed Unavoidable, Exponential Famine on Gaza outpacing Somalia’s
- “Adequate health, nutrition, and water, sanitation, and hygiene … interventions, an immediate cessation of hostilities, and sustained humanitarian access will be required. Absent these conditions, all available evidence indicates rising acute food insecurity, malnutrition, and disease will lead to a rapid increase in non-trauma deaths, particularly among women, children, the elderly, and persons with disabilities.”
- “deterioration of food security and nutrition in Gaza is unprecedented in modern history, exponentially outpacing in six months the long-term declines that led to the only other two famine declarations in the 21st century: Somalia (2011) and South Sudan (2017).”
That's like saying that if you warned shack with a note you attached to a rock and tossed through his window that it would therefore be ok to firebomb his house, take over his land, kill his pets, poison his water and declare yourself owner of his land.
Its a fucking concentration camp with snipers on the wall who shoot Palestinians if they get too close. There is nowhere to go.
You can't make 2.1 million people without any power or food walk from end to end of a destroyed refugee camp so you can destroy the other bits and say its only an accident that 20,000 women and children were killed, and that they should be thankful cuz you could kill them all if it weren't for those antisemitic protests all across the world.
The only monster here is the one that keeps killing people like Rafaat and Bisan.
The fact that your entire argument is based on the UN doing something that you know only Biden keeps vetoing is really incredibly sad.
You know Israel is committing genocide and only Biden's veto at the UN stops the world implementing resolutions that would end the genocide and put Israel on trial.
The xitter is trending #"United States of Israel" today.
congrats.
