Hamas leader killed in Iran

basketcase

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The Lancet posted a study that applied standard battlefield math to counted dead and said that its likely Israel has killed over 186,000 Palestinians.
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Didn't you recently post that the Lancet verified Hamas' numbers? Now you say that the dead are almost 5 times what Hamas claims?
 

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Frank thinks Palestinians are capable of making decisions or being accountable.
Corrected your racist post.
Prove you think they are capable of making decisions by backing the ICJ ruling that calls for the occupation of Palestine to be ended.
Prove that you think Palestinians can take control of Palestine.
 
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Not legally.

Israel is the occupying power and does not have the right to self defence against the people they occupy. The right to self defence only applies to countries.
Hamas and Palestinians have the legal right to self defence against what the ICJ has ruled is an illegal occupation.

There is no rationale that can defend apartheid or genocide.
Genocide is not self defence.
Wow. To see someone who pretends to rely on international law to post something like this is dumb.

As usual you're just making shit up.
 

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Palestine is recognized as a country, Gvir.
All Palestinians have the right to self defence.
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Which according to international law does not entitle them to launch unguided rockets towards civilian populations, does not entitle them to target civilians, and does not justify them kidnapping the elderly and infants.

Also according to international law, Hamas does not have the right to base their military infrastructure within or under civilian and protected structures.
 

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Corrected your racist post.
Prove you think they are capable of making decisions by backing the ICJ ruling that calls for the occupation of Palestine to be ended.
Prove that you think Palestinians can take control of Palestine.
It's so pathetic that your only tactics are to fake quotes and spam tweets.
 

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Isn't 'self defense' the way that people like Frank justify Hamas' actions?
Palestinians have the legal right to self defence, including Hamas.
Israelis don't, as they are the illegal occupation and Palestinians are their ward.

Do you call destroying all universities and schools 'self defence?

Do you think anally raping people to death, with audiences, is self defence?

 
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Would be believable if you were ready to condemn Israel for any accusation but refuse to criticize Palestinians (or Arabs or Iran) even after the ICC, ICJ, HRW, Amnesty have investigated.

Just a reminder...

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A reminder, if you're going to post from those agencies you must post the most recent and important rulings. Not a ICC post about visiting Israel but instead an ICC post about issuing warrants for war crimes including extermination.

If you're going to quote the ICC use the most recent statements, where they say they are going to issue warrants on Israel and Hamas.
I back those charges, you won't.


If you're posting the ICJ, you need to post the Provisional Measures, which are the only direct actions they can demand. Including that Israel prevent killing Palestinians, not commit genocide and arrest those who incite genocide, as you do. You should also have posted the recent ICJ ruling that says the settlements are illegal and must be returned to Palestinians.


 
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But this is probably the first time that you've even insinuated that Arab and Palestinian leaders made choices that have been harmful to Palestinian people.
I'm not sure if this was intended to be directed at me or if it was meant for Geno.

Assuming it was intended for me:

I've never discussed much from a historical perspective, but as I've got more involved in these discussions in the last year, I've gained more knowledge from people like you (mainly you, LOL) and as such I may chime in a bit more frequently from that perspective.

My main focus has been exposing Geno's racist and thoroughly hateful lies. I don't feel that they should go unchallenged. At the same time every single thing that goes on is 100% Israel's fault. In every conflict, not just war, the reality is that there's always 3 sides to the story. Geno deals in absolutes, not reality, and that is a big negative to his debating style. Combined with his blatant lying he has lost all credibility and has become a parody of himself. His arguments have become laughably weak and moronic.

As such it has become much easier to put the ball back in his court and make him back up his BS, which he routinely is unable to do. He either repeats his lies (which have already been debunked), deflects, does a whataboutism, answers a question with a question or twists one's words around to come to a preposterous conclusion. It's getting too easy to make him look ridiculous.

So, in this case, I thought that pointing out how Jewish/Israeli leaders' different approach to decision making compared to the Arab leaders', as being a major consideration in where the peoples of both sides are right now was pretty obvious. I know he'll just keep carrying on but as he gets exposed more and more, his pics, retweets and lies become more and more vile and hateful. It's hard to believe how much hate he has in him. The blood must be pouring out of his eyes. It's shocking.

If that above comment was not intended for me:

 
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